Multiple UPS Batteries

"Damaeus" <no-mail DeleteThis @hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
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> My current UPS is so old that basically all it can do is save my work
before
> everything shuts down. I have a 22" monitor, and my tower, router, and
> satellite modem hooked up to the battery outlets, and the printer and
speakers
> hooked up to the surge protected outlets.
>
> I'd like to get two 1500VA batteries to replace this one, but would both
of
> them have to be hooked up via the USB connections?
>
> I'm figuring on running the monitor (22" CRT) on one battery and running
the
> tower, router, and modem on the other. Sound and the printer I can live
> without as long as the power is out. I'm hoping the CRT battery wouldn't
> necessarily need to be connected via UPS, or maybe some of the batteries
have
> software that can interact with multiple batteries? Any comments or
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks
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First off, your wording is a bit odd. A UPS is powered by a battery or
batteries. The UPS is *not* a battery.

That said, the reason your old UPS only runs a few minutes might be due to
the fact that the battery inside is now
at the end of it's life...So you may want to just replace the battery in it.

Of course , if you want to have your computer on a seperate UPS from the
monitor etc, that's fine too...

as mentioned, the USB connection is simply there to have the UPS shut down
your machine safely...
and you need to software to allow that
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In news:alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, "philo" <philo.RemoveThis@privacy.net> posted on
Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:52:38 -0600:

> First off, your wording is a bit odd. A UPS is powered by a battery or
> batteries. The UPS is *not* a battery.

UPS = Uninterruptible Power Supply, a unit which includes a batter(y)(ies). I
used "batteries" because I couldn't remember off the top of my head whether I
should use an apostrophe when talking about the plural of UPS: UPSs or UPS's.
So rather than making a grammatical error, I decided to go with the technical
error.

> That said, the reason your old UPS only runs a few minutes might be due to
> the fact that the battery inside is now at the end of it's life...So you
> may want to just replace the battery in it.

No, I want something with more power. When I bought this one, I only had a
17" monitor. That monitor soon went out, and keeping with my tradition, I
increase the size of my monitor every time I have to buy a new one. I may,
however, replace the battery in this unit and use it for the monitor alone,
then get another UPS and use it for the other stuff.

> Of course , if you want to have your computer on a seperate UPS from the
> monitor etc, that's fine too...
>
> as mentioned, the USB connection is simply there to have the UPS shut down
> your machine safely... and you need to software to allow that

Yeah, I'm not really happy with the software that came with this Belkin UPS I
have now.

Damaeus
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Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core
Graphics nVidia GeForce 7950GTOC
Memory 2GB DDR2 800 PC6400
Hard Drives 2x 320GB Western Digital SATA
-------------------------------------------------
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"Damaeus" <no-mail.TakeThisOut@hotmail.invalid> wrote...
>
> No, I want something with more power. When I bought this one, I only had a
> 17" monitor. That monitor soon went out, and keeping with my tradition, I
> increase the size of my monitor every time I have to buy a new one. I may,
> however, replace the battery in this unit and use it for the monitor alone,
> then get another UPS and use it for the other stuff.

>> as mentioned, the USB connection is simply there to have the UPS shut down
>> your machine safely... and you need to software to allow that
>
> Yeah, I'm not really happy with the software that came with this Belkin UPS I
> have now.

I have a couple APC BackUPS XS1300s for my big systems and a couple smaller UPSs
(IIRC, no apostrophe when pluralizing all-cap acronyms or abbreviations). The
XS1300 and 1500 have LCD displays that give good information, reducing the
"need" for installing any software. Win XP will detect the UPS connected via
USB, and will incorporate it into the power management scheme as you set it.

I had a Belkin 650 UPS and was not happy with the software or battery life,
either. I still use it (with a replacement battery from Radio Shack) for my
router, etc. I tried the APC software on an old Win 2000 machine, but found I
don't need it on the XP machines.
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"Damaeus" <no-mail.DeleteThis@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
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> In news:alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, "philo" <philo.DeleteThis@privacy.net> posted
on
> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:52:38 -0600:
>
> > First off, your wording is a bit odd. A UPS is powered by a battery or
> > batteries. The UPS is *not* a battery.
>
> UPS = Uninterruptible Power Supply, a unit which includes a
batter(y)(ies). I
> used "batteries" because I couldn't remember off the top of my head
whether I
> should use an apostrophe when talking about the plural of UPS: UPSs or
UPS's.
> So rather than making a grammatical error, I decided to go with the
technical
> error.
>
> > That said, the reason your old UPS only runs a few minutes might be due
to
> > the fact that the battery inside is now at the end of it's life...So you
> > may want to just replace the battery in it.
>
> No, I want something with more power. When I bought this one, I only had
a
> 17" monitor. That monitor soon went out, and keeping with my tradition, I
> increase the size of my monitor every time I have to buy a new one. I
may,
> however, replace the battery in this unit and use it for the monitor
alone,
> then get another UPS and use it for the other stuff.
>
> > Of course , if you want to have your computer on a seperate UPS from the
> > monitor etc, that's fine too...
> >
> > as mentioned, the USB connection is simply there to have the UPS shut
down
> > your machine safely... and you need to software to allow that
>
> Yeah, I'm not really happy with the software that came with this Belkin
UPS I
> have now.
>
> Damaeus
>

Ok...go for it.

On my job I sometimes get access to de-commissioned professional quality
UPS's
and their batteries. I think if the power went out here for 24 hours, my
computers would stay running!


Here is *one* of my three main systems!

http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/batt.jpg
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In message <OOadnb0CsbAV6ibanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d.DeleteThis@athenet.net> "philo"
<philo.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:

>On my job I sometimes get access to de-commissioned professional quality
>UPS's
>and their batteries. I think if the power went out here for 24 hours, my
>computers would stay running!

Sweet. I picked up four APC 1250VA units for ~$50 a pop several years
ago from a office liquidation, one set of batteries failed, but
otherwise they're in working order, although with shorter battery life
then when I first got 'em.

I'm just waiting for a second unit's batteries to get bad enough to
justify purchasing more, then I'll go grab a bulk discount and replace
the whole set.

Right now, my biggest concern is getting through shorter outages as when
the kids plug in the vacuum, or when my heater, water cooler,
humidifier and laser printer all fire up at once, the breaker does it's
thing.

I currently get about 35 minutes for my two file+VMWare servers, over an
hour for the cable modem, BSD based firewall, active directory server
and VoIP box, and about 25 minutes for my desktop with two 24" LCDs.

Not bad for $200 four or five years ago.
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"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam.DeleteThis@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <OOadnb0CsbAV6ibanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d.DeleteThis@athenet.net> "philo"
> <philo.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >On my job I sometimes get access to de-commissioned professional quality
> >UPS's
> >and their batteries. I think if the power went out here for 24 hours, my
> >computers would stay running!
>
> Sweet. I picked up four APC 1250VA units for ~$50 a pop several years
> ago from a office liquidation, one set of batteries failed, but
> otherwise they're in working order, although with shorter battery life
> then when I first got 'em.
>
> I'm just waiting for a second unit's batteries to get bad enough to
> justify purchasing more, then I'll go grab a bulk discount and replace
> the whole set.
>
> Right now, my biggest concern is getting through shorter outages as when
> the kids plug in the vacuum, or when my heater, water cooler,
> humidifier and laser printer all fire up at once, the breaker does it's
> thing.
>
> I currently get about 35 minutes for my two file+VMWare servers, over an
> hour for the cable modem, BSD based firewall, active directory server
> and VoIP box, and about 25 minutes for my desktop with two 24" LCDs.
>
> Not bad for $200 four or five years ago.


You got a good deal for sure.

I have so many batteries here and UPS's that when my GF and I are each
sitting at our own machines
and there's a power failure...we sometimes don't even know about it until we
go into another room and try to turn on a light.
usually, the failures are pretty brief though
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In message <mPmdnSd_vfM57CHanZ2dnUVZ_sqinZ2d.DeleteThis@athenet.net> "philo"
<philo.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:

>I have so many batteries here and UPS's that when my GF and I are each
>sitting at our own machines
>and there's a power failure...we sometimes don't even know about it until we
>go into another room and try to turn on a light.
>usually, the failures are pretty brief though

Mine beep. And beep. And beep. Always the beeping.
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"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam.DeleteThis@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <mPmdnSd_vfM57CHanZ2dnUVZ_sqinZ2d.DeleteThis@athenet.net> "philo"
> <philo.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >I have so many batteries here and UPS's that when my GF and I are each
> >sitting at our own machines
> >and there's a power failure...we sometimes don't even know about it until
we
> >go into another room and try to turn on a light.
> >usually, the failures are pretty brief though
>
> Mine beep. And beep. And beep. Always the beeping.


Mine beep too, but they are down in the basement
and our machines are on the 2nd floor of the house!
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