NF7s v2.0 & 98SE, USB mouse not found on boot

Is connecting the mouse to the mouse ps2 connector, with an adapter, a
problem?

Forrest

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On 20 Oct 2004 20:35:42 GMT, wblane RemoveThis @aol.combotizer (Wblane) wrote:

 >This problem has been nagging me for ages. The system is a dual-boot w/a USB
 >logitech optical wheelmouse. On boot 98SE will sometimes fail to find the
 >mouse, on at least two occasions XP has also failed to find the mouse as well.
 >I tried disabling power management for USB (for XP) and it seems to have made
 >the difference, but 98SE still fails to find the mouse periodically. Anyone
 >have any ideas?
 >-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Bill,

I installed the Logitech mouse on my dual boot system. So far no
problems with 98se, It found "New Hardware" and installed the drivers
from the Windows CD. When I first started XP it came up with a small
window at the bottom right corner of the screen that said "USB wheel
mouse" and just sat there. I thought it was locked up but I just let
it set and it must have finally installed the driver because when I
finally came back everything was working OK. In XP, Device Manager
says it's a Logitech USB Wheel Mouse and the driver is Microsoft
7/1/2001 Version 5.1.2600.0.... In Windows 98se Device Manager says
it's a "HID-compliant Mouse" and loaded the following Driver files:
MOUHID.VXD, VMM32.VXD(ntkern.vxd), MSMOUSE.VXD, & MOUSE.DRV. I don't
know if this will help you or not but it might give you something to
look at. I will leave the mouse on the dual boot system for a while to
see if any problems arise.

Leon Rowell


Leon Rowell wrote:
 > No Ideas but i am using the exact same mouse and windows 98se on my Abit
 > BE6II v.2 with no problems. I will try it on my other machine which has
 > dual boot 98se/XP and see if it has a problem with it. I may not post
 > back 'till tomorrow though. It's getting late and I need all the beauty
 > sleep I can get. ;^)
 >
 > Leon Rowell
 >
 >
 > Wblane wrote:
 >
  >> This problem has been nagging me for ages. The system is a dual-boot
  >> w/a USB
  >> logitech optical wheelmouse. On boot 98SE will sometimes fail to find the
  >> mouse, on at least two occasions XP has also failed to find the mouse
  >> as well.
  >> I tried disabling power management for USB (for XP) and it seems to
  >> have made
  >> the difference, but 98SE still fails to find the mouse periodically.
  >> Anyone
  >> have any ideas?
  >> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
 >
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"Wblane" <wblane RemoveThis @aol.combotizer> wrote in message
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 > This problem has been nagging me for ages. The system is a dual-boot w/a
USB
 > logitech optical wheelmouse. On boot 98SE will sometimes fail to find the
 > mouse, on at least two occasions XP has also failed to find the mouse as
well.
 > I tried disabling power management for USB (for XP) and it seems to have
made
 > the difference, but 98SE still fails to find the mouse periodically.
Anyone
 > have any ideas?
 > -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

There was an issue with this Mother board and the USB mouse
and/or Key Board. There is a BIOS upgrade to fix it. check it out
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"Wblane" <wblane RemoveThis @aol.combotizer> wrote in message
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 > This problem has been nagging me for ages. The system is a dual-boot w/a
 > USB
 > logitech optical wheelmouse. On boot 98SE will sometimes fail to find the
 > mouse, on at least two occasions XP has also failed to find the mouse as
 > well.
 > I tried disabling power management for USB (for XP) and it seems to have
 > made
 > the difference, but 98SE still fails to find the mouse periodically.
 > Anyone
 > have any ideas?
 > -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

I had the exact same problem and it bugged me for months. I scoured the web
for help and advice and came across none. Why you and I should have this
problem and others don't is quite a mystery. And the circumstances of the
problem were very odd (for me) too. For example, I had a PCI modem
installed. I found that when I removed the modem, the problem went away.
But another guy I found with the same problem didn't have any PCI devices.

I did in the end find a fix - for me at least. That was to install a
certain version of the nvidia chipset drivers. I think it was 2.50. I
remember that the earlier version had the problem, and so did the version
afterwards, but there was one particular version that fixed it for me. That
was a year or so ago. Whether there are later versions still that now have
solved the problem, I don't know.

You can search about it at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.amdforums.com" target="_blank">www.amdforums.com</a> on the Abit board. I made a
number of posts there at the time.

Chip<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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This is the way I used to connect my mouse and it always worked. The NF7s v2.0
is a nightmare on 98SE though because there are so many devices and so few
interrupts (especially since I'm using a Promise EIDE controller [I had
problems w/the NF7s v2.0 IDE drivers]).

 >Is connecting the mouse to the mouse ps2 connector, with an adapter, a
 >problem?

 >
 >Forrest
 >
 >Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
 >http://home.comcast.net/~mobo.help/
 >
 >
 >On 20 Oct 2004 20:35:42 GMT, wblane.DeleteThis@aol.combotizer (Wblane) wrote:
 >
  >>This problem has been nagging me for ages. The system is a dual-boot w/a USB
  >>logitech optical wheelmouse. On boot 98SE will sometimes fail to find the
  >>mouse, on at least two occasions XP has also failed to find the mouse as
 >well.
  >>I tried disabling power management for USB (for XP) and it seems to have
 >made
  >>the difference, but 98SE still fails to find the mouse periodically. Anyone
  >>have any ideas?
  >>-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
 >
 >

-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Hmm. I've got a PCI modem as well. It's strange to see my optical mouse lit up
ready to go and windows 98SE telling me it couldn't detect a mouse. My USB
ports indicate they're functioning perfectly as well. I wonder if it could be a
BIOS setting? I know some BIOS's have a setting for legacy USB mouse or legacy
USB devices settings. Maybe I'll give those a shot and see what happens. If I
reboot a couple of times and perform a hard reset 98SE finds the mouse
eventually.

 >problem were very odd (for me) too. For example, I had a PCI modem
 >installed. I found that when I removed the modem, the problem went away.
 >But another guy I found with the same problem didn't have any PCI devices.


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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I'll have to give this a try, I know I don't have the latest NF7s v2.0 BIOS
burned.

 >There was an issue with this Mother board and the USB mouse
 >and/or Key Board. There is a BIOS upgrade to fix it. check it out
 >maybe this is what your looking for.
 >
 >


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"Wblane" <wblane.DeleteThis@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
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 > Hmm. I've got a PCI modem as well. It's strange to see my optical mouse
 > lit up
 > ready to go and windows 98SE telling me it couldn't detect a mouse. My USB
 > ports indicate they're functioning perfectly as well. I wonder if it could
 > be a
 > BIOS setting? I know some BIOS's have a setting for legacy USB mouse or
 > legacy
 > USB devices settings. Maybe I'll give those a shot and see what happens.
 > If I
 > reboot a couple of times and perform a hard reset 98SE finds the mouse
 > eventually.

If its the same problem I had, then I doubt if any new bios or any bios
settings will fix it.

Of course you could always use the USB to PS/2 adapter and run the mouse as
a PS/2 device. Pretty depressing to have to do that, but at least it works.

Do me a favour - try removing your modem drivers, unplug the modem and see
if the problem goes away. If it does, then at least you will know you have
the same problem I had.... and then I can search around my old posts and
find out exactly what my solution was.

BTW - its not by any chance a Zoom (aka Hayes) PCI modem, is it?

Chip<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Chip, it's a Best Data call waiting modem. It's not a winmodem either. I'm
going to try flashing a new BIOS, it that doesn't work I'm going to just live
with it (as I absotively need my modem).

 >Do me a favour - try removing your modem drivers, unplug the modem and see
 >if the problem goes away. If it does, then at least you will know you have
 >the same problem I had.... and then I can search around my old posts and
 >find out exactly what my solution was.
 >
 >BTW - its not by any chance a Zoom (aka Hayes) PCI modem, is it?
 >
 >Chip


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"Wblane" <wblane.DeleteThis@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
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 > Chip, it's a Best Data call waiting modem. It's not a winmodem either. I'm
 > going to try flashing a new BIOS, it that doesn't work I'm going to just
 > live
 > with it (as I absotively need my modem).

I wasn't suggesting you do without your modem. Simply that if you remove
the modem and the problem goes away, then I know its the same problem I was
having, and therefore I know I can fix it for you.

Up to you.

Chip<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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