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Since: Jan 16, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:28 pm
Post subject: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up
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Well, I went out and got a 500W Antec power supply, as Big Bubba and
Mike Ryder suggested, and my computer now boots right up. So,
my problems were related to my 400W Powmax power supply after all. In
addition, whereas my computer wouldn't turn intself off after Xp shut
down, it does now.
I do, however, still get the voice message "computer failed CPU test"
during the booting process. But the system continues to boot right
through it into Windows. I can definitely live with that. but if
someone can tell me how to get rid of that message with out risking
where I am at this point, I'd love to hear it.
Thanks again for your help Bubba, Mike, and Paul.
Bill |
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Since: Oct 09, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:26 pm
Post subject: Re: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Bill Schmidt wrote:
> Well, I went out and got a 500W Antec power supply, as Big Bubba and
> Mike Ryder suggested, and my computer now boots right up. So,
> my problems were related to my 400W Powmax power supply after all. In
> addition, whereas my computer wouldn't turn intself off after Xp shut
> down, it does now.
>
> I do, however, still get the voice message "computer failed CPU test"
> during the booting process. But the system continues to boot right
> through it into Windows. I can definitely live with that. but if
> someone can tell me how to get rid of that message with out risking
> where I am at this point, I'd love to hear it.
>
> Thanks again for your help Bubba, Mike, and Paul.
>
> Bill
Section 4.4.7 in the manual "Speech Configuration" has several settings.
You can disable the Winbond chip there if you want, by using the top setting.
Second method, is to download the Winbond Editor from the Asus site.
I found two copies on the Asus site, and I presume the second link
is the later one.
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/Voice_10.zip
There is one here for what looks like 875/865 boards:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/winbond/865875_veditor_M316.zip
I get the impression that the same ROM contents are used for all boards,
judging by the paper label stuck on the 8 pin DIP serial EEPROM. The
Winbond Editor allows a user to record their own voice messages over
top of the existing ones. A user could record silence over a
persistent error, to make it "go away". The serial EEPROM has limited
room, and I think there is the ability to set the bandwidth of the voice
samples (use shorter samples, use a higher bandwidth setting). The
fun part after the recording session, is waiting for the serial EEPROM
to be reprogrammed. I don't think that happens too fast (half hour ?).
Anyway, it is another way to mess around.
For the third option, you could consider removing the 8 pin DIP with
the Winbond program in it. In this picture, in the lower left hand
corner is an IDE connector. Above it, is an 8 pin DIP with a paper
label on it. As long as the chip is socketed, you can pull the
chip out of the socket. Do that with the power off. Store the chip
somewhere safe (like an antistatic bag for a DIMM). Also remember
to keep a paper note somewhere, of what the correct orientation is,
if you ever want to plug it back in again.
http://www.thg.ru/mainboard/20030714/images/asus_board_big.jpg
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Since: Jan 16, 2008
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:51 pm
Post subject: Re: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:26:44 -0500, Paul <nospam RemoveThis @needed.com> wrote:
>Bill Schmidt wrote:
>> Well, I went out and got a 500W Antec power supply, as Big Bubba and
>> Mike Ryder suggested, and my computer now boots right up. So,
>> my problems were related to my 400W Powmax power supply after all. In
>> addition, whereas my computer wouldn't turn intself off after Xp shut
>> down, it does now.
>>
>> I do, however, still get the voice message "computer failed CPU test"
>> during the booting process. But the system continues to boot right
>> through it into Windows. I can definitely live with that. but if
>> someone can tell me how to get rid of that message with out risking
>> where I am at this point, I'd love to hear it.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help Bubba, Mike, and Paul.
>>
>> Bill
>
>Section 4.4.7 in the manual "Speech Configuration" has several settings.
>You can disable the Winbond chip there if you want, by using the top setting.
Thanks, Paul. You're a gem. No more "Failed CPU test" message, and my
computer now seems to be running perfectly. It's still hard to believe
that my power supply created all those problems, but it evidently did.
Take care,
Bill >> Stay informed about: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:17 am
Post subject: Re: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Bill Schmidt wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:26:44 -0500, Paul <nospam.RemoveThis@needed.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Bill Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I went out and got a 500W Antec power supply, as Big Bubba and
>>>Mike Ryder suggested, and my computer now boots right up. So,
>>>my problems were related to my 400W Powmax power supply after all. In
>>>addition, whereas my computer wouldn't turn intself off after Xp shut
>>>down, it does now.
>>>
>>>I do, however, still get the voice message "computer failed CPU test"
>>>during the booting process. But the system continues to boot right
>>>through it into Windows. I can definitely live with that. but if
>>>someone can tell me how to get rid of that message with out risking
>>>where I am at this point, I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>>Thanks again for your help Bubba, Mike, and Paul.
>>>
>>>Bill
>>
>>Section 4.4.7 in the manual "Speech Configuration" has several settings.
>>You can disable the Winbond chip there if you want, by using the top setting.
>
>
> Thanks, Paul. You're a gem. No more "Failed CPU test" message, and my
> computer now seems to be running perfectly. It's still hard to believe
> that my power supply created all those problems, but it evidently did.
>
> Take care,
>
> Bill
>
400 Watts is a little bit on the "light" side for a P4C800, especially
if one that is loaded with peripherals and accessories. We have always
installed Antec 550 Watt PSU's from the very beginning. >> Stay informed about: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:06 pm
Post subject: Re: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ghostrider wrote:
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> Bill Schmidt wrote:
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>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:26:44 -0500, Paul <nospam.DeleteThis@needed.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Bill Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I went out and got a 500W Antec power supply, as Big Bubba and
>>>> Mike Ryder suggested, and my computer now boots right up. So, my
>>>> problems were related to my 400W Powmax power supply after all. In
>>>> addition, whereas my computer wouldn't turn intself off after Xp shut
>>>> down, it does now.
>>>>
>>>> I do, however, still get the voice message "computer failed CPU test"
>>>> during the booting process. But the system continues to boot right
>>>> through it into Windows. I can definitely live with that. but if
>>>> someone can tell me how to get rid of that message with out risking
>>>> where I am at this point, I'd love to hear it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your help Bubba, Mike, and Paul.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Section 4.4.7 in the manual "Speech Configuration" has several settings.
>>> You can disable the Winbond chip there if you want, by using the top
>>> setting.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Paul. You're a gem. No more "Failed CPU test" message, and my
>> computer now seems to be running perfectly. It's still hard to believe
>> that my power supply created all those problems, but it evidently did.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
> 400 Watts is a little bit on the "light" side for a P4C800, especially
> if one that is loaded with peripherals and accessories. We have always
> installed Antec 550 Watt PSU's from the very beginning.
I think the power supply and it's quality have more to do with it than
the rating. I was running my P5P800 with a 3.4 GHz processor on a 400
watt Zalman power supply without any problems. I think the OP's
original power supply was a "generic" one which might of been marginal
to begin with and started failing causing his problems. >> Stay informed about: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:03 pm
Post subject: Re: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:51:02 GMT, "Michael W. Ryder" >> 400 Watts is a
little bit on the "light" side for a P4C800, especially
>> if one that is loaded with peripherals and accessories. We have always
>> installed Antec 550 Watt PSU's from the very beginning.
>
>I think the power supply and it's quality have more to do with it than
>the rating. I was running my P5P800 with a 3.4 GHz processor on a 400
>watt Zalman power supply without any problems. I think the OP's
>original power supply was a "generic" one which might of been marginal
>to begin with and started failing causing his problems.
I'm running a p4c800 E Deluxe with a 430 watt Antec power
supply and it's rock steady. I think the amount of power needed to
run a computer has been grossly exaggerated. The quality of the
supply is what it's all about. Check this out:
http://www.journeysystems.com/?powercalc >> Stay informed about: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:53 am
Post subject: Re: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:51:02 GMT, "Michael W. Ryder"
<_mwryder.TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Ghostrider wrote:
>>
>> Bill Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:26:44 -0500, Paul <nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bill Schmidt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I went out and got a 500W Antec power supply, as Big Bubba and
>>>>> Mike Ryder suggested, and my computer now boots right up. So, my
>>>>> problems were related to my 400W Powmax power supply after all. In
>>>>> addition, whereas my computer wouldn't turn intself off after Xp shut
>>>>> down, it does now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do, however, still get the voice message "computer failed CPU test"
>>>>> during the booting process. But the system continues to boot right
>>>>> through it into Windows. I can definitely live with that. but if
>>>>> someone can tell me how to get rid of that message with out risking
>>>>> where I am at this point, I'd love to hear it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for your help Bubba, Mike, and Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> Section 4.4.7 in the manual "Speech Configuration" has several settings.
>>>> You can disable the Winbond chip there if you want, by using the top
>>>> setting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Paul. You're a gem. No more "Failed CPU test" message, and my
>>> computer now seems to be running perfectly. It's still hard to believe
>>> that my power supply created all those problems, but it evidently did.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>> 400 Watts is a little bit on the "light" side for a P4C800, especially
>> if one that is loaded with peripherals and accessories. We have always
>> installed Antec 550 Watt PSU's from the very beginning.
>
>I think the power supply and it's quality have more to do with it than
>the rating. I was running my P5P800 with a 3.4 GHz processor on a 400
>watt Zalman power supply without any problems. I think the OP's
>original power supply was a "generic" one which might of been marginal
>to begin with and started failing causing his problems.
I think you're right about this, Mike. As I mentioned , my system
recently developed a high pitched squeal that varied from very to
barely audible. I thought the squal was coming from the fan, but as it
turned out, it was coming from the failing PS, since its gone now. So,
I'd say that installing the 550W PS is a very good idea.
Bill >> Stay informed about: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:05 pm
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"Bill Schmidt" <schmitty.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8827p35f8v7eq1iman8ldu8m2v1e7grkkf@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:26:44 -0500, Paul <nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com> wrote:
>
>>Bill Schmidt wrote:
>>> Well, I went out and got a 500W Antec power supply, as Big Bubba and
>>> Mike Ryder suggested, and my computer now boots right up. So,
>>> my problems were related to my 400W Powmax power supply after all. In
>>> addition, whereas my computer wouldn't turn intself off after Xp shut
>>> down, it does now.
>>>
>>> I do, however, still get the voice message "computer failed CPU test"
>>> during the booting process. But the system continues to boot right
>>> through it into Windows. I can definitely live with that. but if
>>> someone can tell me how to get rid of that message with out risking
>>> where I am at this point, I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your help Bubba, Mike, and Paul.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>Section 4.4.7 in the manual "Speech Configuration" has several settings.
>>You can disable the Winbond chip there if you want, by using the top
>>setting.
>
> Thanks, Paul. You're a gem. No more "Failed CPU test" message, and my
> computer now seems to be running perfectly. It's still hard to believe
> that my power supply created all those problems, but it evidently did.
Hi Bill,
Just FYI, I look after a couple of hundred PCs of various makes
and models. In my scrap pile, I currently have about a dozen PSUs,
about the same number of HDs and about half that number of bad
sticks of RAM and optical drives. Only one dead motherboard though.
You can probably guess which components get looked at first on faulty
systems!
Unbranded/cheap PSUs, especially those that come fitted to new
cheap cases, are a bit of a liability, IME.
Cheers,
--
Rob >> Stay informed about: P4C800 Deluxe Woes Follow-Up |
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