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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:55 pm
Post subject: P4P800 machine micro freezes?
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I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny moments now
and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5 seconds
(can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but then
there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes a few
seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing something
to another it can stutter as well.
One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid, just
sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong with
the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the reason
of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access the
drive?)
Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the bios? |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: P4P800 machine micro freezes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"G Owens" <no RemoveThis @spam.spam> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e841448908ea7629896d2@news.usenetserver.com...
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> I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny moments now
> and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5 seconds
> (can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but then
> there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes a few
> seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing something
> to another it can stutter as well.
> One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid, just
> sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong with
> the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the reason
> of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access the
> drive?)
> Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the bios?
I'm guessing you cloned the old PATA drive onto the new SATA?
If so, you'll need the SATA drivers installed whether you use RAID
or not. It's not unknown for new HD's to be bad, either - if you
suspect that, run the HD manu's diag.from a boot floppy/CD.
HTH
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:55 pm
Post subject: Re: P4P800 machine micro freezes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <dvcvis$382$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
SpamDiddlyDooDoo.DeleteThis@noway.nowhere.con says...
> "G Owens" <no.DeleteThis@spam.spam> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1e841448908ea7629896d2@news.usenetserver.com...
> >
> > I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny moments now
> > and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5 seconds
> > (can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but then
> > there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes a few
> > seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing something
> > to another it can stutter as well.
> > One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid, just
> > sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong with
> > the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the reason
> > of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access the
> > drive?)
> > Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the bios?
>
> I'm guessing you cloned the old PATA drive onto the new SATA?
Yes I did indeed.
> If so, you'll need the SATA drivers installed whether you use RAID
> or not.
Ah.. I don't suppose you could point me in the direction where i might
find them? Is it from Microsoft, or Asus, or perhaps seagate who made
the drive?
> It's not unknown for new HD's to be bad, either - if you
> suspect that, run the HD manu's diag.from a boot floppy/CD.
> HTH
I don't really suspect it, haven't had any error reports or corrupt
data, but if you think its a good idea i could do a deep scan. >> Stay informed about: P4P800 machine micro freezes? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:55 am
Post subject: Re: P4P800 machine micro freezes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"G Owens" <no.DeleteThis@spam.spam> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e8433f8e621d509896d3@news.usenetserver.com...
> In article <dvcvis$382$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
> SpamDiddlyDooDoo.DeleteThis@noway.nowhere.con says...
>> "G Owens" <no.DeleteThis@spam.spam> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1e841448908ea7629896d2@news.usenetserver.com...
>> >
>> > I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny moments now
>> > and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5 seconds
>> > (can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but then
>> > there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes a few
>> > seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing
>> > something
>> > to another it can stutter as well.
>> > One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid, just
>> > sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong with
>> > the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the reason
>> > of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access the
>> > drive?)
>> > Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the bios?
>>
>> I'm guessing you cloned the old PATA drive onto the new SATA?
>
> Yes I did indeed.
>
>> If so, you'll need the SATA drivers installed whether you use RAID
>> or not.
>
> Ah.. I don't suppose you could point me in the direction where i might
> find them? Is it from Microsoft, or Asus, or perhaps seagate who made
> the drive?
>
Asus, or whoever made the chipset that controls the RAID on the board (not
being familiar with your board).
Either intel, or Silicon image, or VIA - check your mobo manual. Chances are
you recieved a floppy with the board that will have RAID controller drivers
on it (for clean installations of to SATA drives). >> Stay informed about: P4P800 machine micro freezes? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:55 am
Post subject: Re: P4P800 machine micro freezes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <441a8c04$0$18529$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, a.RemoveThis@b.c says...
>
> "G Owens" <no.RemoveThis@spam.spam> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1e8433f8e621d509896d3@news.usenetserver.com...
> > In article <dvcvis$382$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
> > SpamDiddlyDooDoo.RemoveThis@noway.nowhere.con says...
> >> "G Owens" <no.RemoveThis@spam.spam> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.1e841448908ea7629896d2@news.usenetserver.com...
> >> >
> >> > I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny moments now
> >> > and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5 seconds
> >> > (can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but then
> >> > there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes a few
> >> > seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing
> >> > something
> >> > to another it can stutter as well.
> >> > One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid, just
> >> > sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong with
> >> > the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the reason
> >> > of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access the
> >> > drive?)
> >> > Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the bios?
> >>
> >> I'm guessing you cloned the old PATA drive onto the new SATA?
> >
> > Yes I did indeed.
> >
> >> If so, you'll need the SATA drivers installed whether you use RAID
> >> or not.
> >
> > Ah.. I don't suppose you could point me in the direction where i might
> > find them? Is it from Microsoft, or Asus, or perhaps seagate who made
> > the drive?
> >
>
> Asus, or whoever made the chipset that controls the RAID on the board (not
> being familiar with your board).
Well its the Asus P4P800
> Either intel, or Silicon image, or VIA - check your mobo manual.
Not quite sure whath appened to the manual, but according to the Everest
program its:
North Bridge: Intel Springdale i865PE
South Bridge: Intel 82801EB ICH5
and Intels chip checker:
Intel(R) 865 chipset Family
Memory Controller: 82865G /P/PE or 82848P
I/O Controller: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R), SATA
Still not sure what to get though.
> Chances are
> you recieved a floppy with the board that will have RAID controller drivers
> on it (for clean installations of to SATA drives).
Yeah, i installed that once - when i still had a floppy drive (which i
don't anymore, neded to remove it) >> Stay informed about: P4P800 machine micro freezes? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: P4P800 machine micro freezes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:42:06 +0100, G Owens <no.RemoveThis@spam.spam> wrote:
My understanding is that for Intel boards, the drivers are built into
XP. Nothing to install.
>In article <441a8c04$0$18529$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
>01.iinet.net.au>, a.RemoveThis@b.c says...
>>
>> "G Owens" <no.RemoveThis@spam.spam> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1e8433f8e621d509896d3@news.usenetserver.com...
>> > In article <dvcvis$382$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
>> > SpamDiddlyDooDoo.RemoveThis@noway.nowhere.con says...
>> >> "G Owens" <no.RemoveThis@spam.spam> wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.1e841448908ea7629896d2@news.usenetserver.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny moments now
>> >> > and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5 seconds
>> >> > (can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but then
>> >> > there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes a few
>> >> > seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing
>> >> > something
>> >> > to another it can stutter as well.
>> >> > One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid, just
>> >> > sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong with
>> >> > the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the reason
>> >> > of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access the
>> >> > drive?)
>> >> > Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the bios?
>> >>
>> >> I'm guessing you cloned the old PATA drive onto the new SATA?
>> >
>> > Yes I did indeed.
>> >
>> >> If so, you'll need the SATA drivers installed whether you use RAID
>> >> or not.
>> >
>> > Ah.. I don't suppose you could point me in the direction where i might
>> > find them? Is it from Microsoft, or Asus, or perhaps seagate who made
>> > the drive?
>> >
>>
>> Asus, or whoever made the chipset that controls the RAID on the board (not
>> being familiar with your board).
>
>Well its the Asus P4P800
>
>> Either intel, or Silicon image, or VIA - check your mobo manual.
>
>Not quite sure whath appened to the manual, but according to the Everest
>program its:
>
>North Bridge: Intel Springdale i865PE
>South Bridge: Intel 82801EB ICH5
>
>and Intels chip checker:
>
>Intel(R) 865 chipset Family
>Memory Controller: 82865G /P/PE or 82848P
>I/O Controller: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R), SATA
>
>Still not sure what to get though.
>
>
>> Chances are
>> you recieved a floppy with the board that will have RAID controller drivers
>> on it (for clean installations of to SATA drives).
>
>Yeah, i installed that once - when i still had a floppy drive (which i
>don't anymore, neded to remove it) >> Stay informed about: P4P800 machine micro freezes? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:55 am
Post subject: Re: P4P800 machine micro freezes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <r5im129436921ctm5i09ic4282eilfvgic.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
takeahike.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com says...
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:42:06 +0100, G Owens <no.TakeThisOut@spam.spam> wrote:
>
> My understanding is that for Intel boards, the drivers are built into
> XP. Nothing to install.
*sigh* So you don't think its because of drivers i have these micro
freezes?
>
> >In article <441a8c04$0$18529$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> >01.iinet.net.au>, a.TakeThisOut@b.c says...
> >>
> >> "G Owens" <no.TakeThisOut@spam.spam> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.1e8433f8e621d509896d3@news.usenetserver.com...
> >> > In article <dvcvis$382$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
> >> > SpamDiddlyDooDoo.TakeThisOut@noway.nowhere.con says...
> >> >> "G Owens" <no.TakeThisOut@spam.spam> wrote in message
> >> >> news:MPG.1e841448908ea7629896d2@news.usenetserver.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny moments now
> >> >> > and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5 seconds
> >> >> > (can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but then
> >> >> > there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes a few
> >> >> > seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing
> >> >> > something
> >> >> > to another it can stutter as well.
> >> >> > One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid, just
> >> >> > sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong with
> >> >> > the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the reason
> >> >> > of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access the
> >> >> > drive?)
> >> >> > Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the bios?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm guessing you cloned the old PATA drive onto the new SATA?
> >> >
> >> > Yes I did indeed.
> >> >
> >> >> If so, you'll need the SATA drivers installed whether you use RAID
> >> >> or not.
> >> >
> >> > Ah.. I don't suppose you could point me in the direction where i might
> >> > find them? Is it from Microsoft, or Asus, or perhaps seagate who made
> >> > the drive?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Asus, or whoever made the chipset that controls the RAID on the board (not
> >> being familiar with your board).
> >
> >Well its the Asus P4P800
> >
> >> Either intel, or Silicon image, or VIA - check your mobo manual.
> >
> >Not quite sure whath appened to the manual, but according to the Everest
> >program its:
> >
> >North Bridge: Intel Springdale i865PE
> >South Bridge: Intel 82801EB ICH5
> >
> >and Intels chip checker:
> >
> >Intel(R) 865 chipset Family
> >Memory Controller: 82865G /P/PE or 82848P
> >I/O Controller: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R), SATA
> >
> >Still not sure what to get though.
> >
> >
> >> Chances are
> >> you recieved a floppy with the board that will have RAID controller drivers
> >> on it (for clean installations of to SATA drives).
> >
> >Yeah, i installed that once - when i still had a floppy drive (which i
> >don't anymore, neded to remove it)
>
> >> Stay informed about: P4P800 machine micro freezes? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:55 am
Post subject: Re: P4P800 machine micro freezes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <wE1Vf.178131$H%4.91934@pd7tw2no>, hancockr.DeleteThis@nospamshaw.ca
says...
> G Owens wrote:
> > I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny moments now
> > and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5 seconds
> > (can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but then
> > there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes a few
> > seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing something
> > to another it can stutter as well.
> > One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid, just
> > sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong with
> > the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the reason
> > of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access the
> > drive?)
> > Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the bios?
>
> This seems more like a software problem..
Well, I'd love to know which software that has suddenly started to do
this.
> Anti-virus software can do
> this, for one thing, if it's accessing some big archive file that it has
> to scan.
I don't have any anti virus software installed. Nor have i installed
anything big just before this happened (only graphics drivers, and it
happens on a dual boot partition with an older image as well). >> Stay informed about: P4P800 machine micro freezes? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: P4P800 machine micro freezes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The SATA drivers are on the mobo CD.
There's a file called makedisk.exe, IIRC on the cd in a folder.
However, when u run this, you'll need a floppy to extract the SATA drivers
to.
"G Owens" <no.TakeThisOut@spam.spam> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e864181da3b2cbf9896d5@news.usenetserver.com...
In article <r5im129436921ctm5i09ic4282eilfvgic.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
takeahike.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com says...
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:42:06 +0100, G Owens <no.TakeThisOut@spam.spam> wrote:
>
> My understanding is that for Intel boards, the drivers are built into
> XP. Nothing to install.
*sigh* So you don't think its because of drivers i have these micro
freezes?
>
> >In article <441a8c04$0$18529$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> >01.iinet.net.au>, a.TakeThisOut@b.c says...
> >>
> >> "G Owens" <no.TakeThisOut@spam.spam> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.1e8433f8e621d509896d3@news.usenetserver.com...
> >> > In article <dvcvis$382$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
> >> > SpamDiddlyDooDoo.TakeThisOut@noway.nowhere.con says...
> >> >> "G Owens" <no.TakeThisOut@spam.spam> wrote in message
> >> >> news:MPG.1e841448908ea7629896d2@news.usenetserver.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have a very annoying problem, the machine freezes in tiny
> >> >> > moments now
> >> >> > and then. Like when i start up in windows, it freezes in 4-5
> >> >> > seconds
> >> >> > (can only move the mouse - but all inputs seem to be queued) but
> >> >> > then
> >> >> > there is no probem, until i alt tab out from something it freezes
> >> >> > a few
> >> >> > seconds, if i'm playing something from one drive while writing
> >> >> > something
> >> >> > to another it can stutter as well.
> >> >> > One thing i changed recently was to put in a sata drive (no raid,
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > sata) and boot from that instead - there seem to be nothing wrong
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > the harddrive such as data loss, but i wondered if this was the
> >> >> > reason
> >> >> > of for these small freezes? (Windows put on hold while it access
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > drive?)
> >> >> > Or I need extra drivers or need to set something special in the
> >> >> > bios?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm guessing you cloned the old PATA drive onto the new SATA?
> >> >
> >> > Yes I did indeed.
> >> >
> >> >> If so, you'll need the SATA drivers installed whether you use RAID
> >> >> or not.
> >> >
> >> > Ah.. I don't suppose you could point me in the direction where i
> >> > might
> >> > find them? Is it from Microsoft, or Asus, or perhaps seagate who made
> >> > the drive?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Asus, or whoever made the chipset that controls the RAID on the board
> >> (not
> >> being familiar with your board).
> >
> >Well its the Asus P4P800
> >
> >> Either intel, or Silicon image, or VIA - check your mobo manual.
> >
> >Not quite sure whath appened to the manual, but according to the Everest
> >program its:
> >
> >North Bridge: Intel Springdale i865PE
> >South Bridge: Intel 82801EB ICH5
> >
> >and Intels chip checker:
> >
> >Intel(R) 865 chipset Family
> >Memory Controller: 82865G /P/PE or 82848P
> >I/O Controller: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R), SATA
> >
> >Still not sure what to get though.
> >
> >
> >> Chances are
> >> you recieved a floppy with the board that will have RAID controller
> >> drivers
> >> on it (for clean installations of to SATA drives).
> >
> >Yeah, i installed that once - when i still had a floppy drive (which i
> >don't anymore, neded to remove it)
>
> >> Stay informed about: P4P800 machine micro freezes? |
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