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domenm

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:08 pm
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Hi,

ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
problem.
I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...

Here are the details:
- I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
years now.
- bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
everything worked fine before.
- tried some hints like:
- test with only new RAM module ==> OK
- put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
- rotate the modules ==> NOK
- upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK

I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?

Thanks in advance.
BR
D.M

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:15 pm
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On 14 nov., 21:08, dom....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
> problem.
> I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
> all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>
> Here are the details:
> - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
> RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
> years now.
> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> everything worked fine before.
> - tried some hints like:
> - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
> - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
> - rotate the modules ==> NOK
> - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>
> I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
> voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
> it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> BR
> D.M

Yeah, I forgot this:
I also performed a RAM test with MemTest-86 which found no errors. But
crashes are still here Sad .

BR.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:27 pm
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On 14 nov., 21:20, "Cub" <c... DeleteThis @home.com> wrote:
> <dom... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
> > problem.
> > I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
> > all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>
> > Here are the details:
> > - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
> > RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
> > years now.
> > - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> > etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> > I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> > simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> > everything worked fine before.
> > - tried some hints like:
> > - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
> > - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
> > - rotate the modules ==> NOK
> > - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>
> > I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
> > voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
> > it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>
> > Thanks in advance.
> > BR
> > D.M
>
> So what about testing with only the origianl ram module in , in the original
> slot ?
>
> ** Keep away from voltage settings**


I have done that also, just to be sure. As I said the system worked
fine for 3 years with 1 mem stick.

Thanx.
BR
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:37 pm
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On 14 nov., 21:30, hgold... RemoveThis @mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:08:27 -0800, dom... RemoveThis @gmail.com <dom... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> : I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
> : voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
> : it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>
> Are your Kingston's on your motherboard's QVL for all 4 slots? Do you
> have the voltage set to what Kingston specifies for the sticks? Are
> you overclocking?
>
> At the end of the day be prepared for it never working. Sometimes
> running with all 4 slots populated is just a bridge too far.

OK, MTB only has 3 DDR slots. Where I can set the voltage? I looked in
BIOS, but it's nothing there.
And no, I'm not overclocking.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:29 pm
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Well, from your tests, I believe that you can deduce that it's probable that
the 2nd RAM slot on the motherboard may have failed, since either RAM stick
works individually fine in the first slot.

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<domenm DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
> problem.
> I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
> all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>
> Here are the details:
> - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
> RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
> years now.
> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> everything worked fine before.
> - tried some hints like:
> - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
> - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
> - rotate the modules ==> NOK
> - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>
> I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
> voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
> it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> BR
> D.M
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:21 pm
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domenm.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
> problem.
> I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
> all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>
> Here are the details:
> - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
> RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
> years now.
> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> everything worked fine before.
> - tried some hints like:
> - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
> - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
> - rotate the modules ==> NOK
> - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>
> I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
> voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
> it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> BR
> D.M

The QVL (Qualified Vendor List) for memory for that MB lists three
acceptable Kingston memory modules. There are other qualifiers as to
which memory can be installed in one or two slots. It's very picky as
to module type and brand of chips used. Suggest you read the QVL
available here:
http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=0&l3=0&modelmenu=0&share=txt/60

Near the bottom of the page. Click on A7V600 and you'll get a download
prompt (or open) for the info, which is in PDF (Adobe Reader) format (~
200KB).
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:20 pm
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<domenm.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
> problem.
> I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
> all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>
> Here are the details:
> - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
> RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
> years now.
> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> everything worked fine before.
> - tried some hints like:
> - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
> - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
> - rotate the modules ==> NOK
> - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>
> I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
> voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
> it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> BR
> D.M
>

So what about testing with only the origianl ram module in , in the original
slot ?

** Keep away from voltage settings**
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:30 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:03 pm
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domenm DeleteThis @gmail.com gebruikte zijn klavier om te schrijven :
> On 14 nov., 21:20, "Cub" <c... DeleteThis @home.com> wrote:
>> <dom... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> Hi,
>>
>>> ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
>>> problem.
>>> I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
>>> all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>>> Here are the details:
>>> - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
>>> RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
>>> years now.
>>> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
>>> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
>>> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
>>> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
>>> everything worked fine before.
>>> - tried some hints like:
>>> - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
>>> - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
>>> - rotate the modules ==> NOK
>>> - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>>> I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
>>> voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
>>> it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> BR
>>> D.M
>>
>> So what about testing with only the origianl ram module in , in the original
>> slot ?
>>
>> ** Keep away from voltage settings**
>
> I have done that also, just to be sure. As I said the system worked
> fine for 3 years with 1 mem stick.
>
> Thanx.
> BR

You could try to clean the old module. Dust particles are known to
cause very different problems.
This week I had some problems with my 3 year old system, it did not
want to boot (even POST did not show up).
Cleaned the mem modules, and now all is fine.

André
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:03 pm
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<domenm.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 14 nov., 21:20, "Cub" <c....DeleteThis@home.com> wrote:
>> <dom....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>>
>> > ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
>> > problem.
>> > I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
>> > all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>>
>> > Here are the details:
>> > - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
>> > RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
>> > years now.
>> > - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
>> > etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
>> > I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
>> > simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
>> > everything worked fine before.
>> > - tried some hints like:
>> > - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
>> > - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
>> > - rotate the modules ==> NOK
>> > - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>>
>> > I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
>> > voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
>> > it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>>
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> > BR
>> > D.M
>>
>> So what about testing with only the origianl ram module in , in the
>> original
>> slot ?
>>
>> ** Keep away from voltage settings**
>
>
> I have done that also, just to be sure. As I said the system worked
> fine for 3 years with 1 mem stick.
>
> Thanx.
> BR
>

I guess you might have BUT when you put the original stick in did the system
behave again ?, the result is not listed is you post
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:59 am
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<domenm.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 14 nov., 21:08, dom....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
>> problem.
>> I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
>> all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>>
>> Here are the details:
>> - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
>> RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
>> years now.
>> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
>> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
>> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
>> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
>> everything worked fine before.
>> - tried some hints like:
>> - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
>> - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
>> - rotate the modules ==> NOK
>> - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>>
>> I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
>> voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
>> it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> BR
>> D.M
>
> Yeah, I forgot this:
> I also performed a RAM test with MemTest-86 which found no errors. But
> crashes are still here Sad .
>
> BR.
>

Have you tried the new RAM by itself in the comp?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:09 am
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On 15 nov., 13:23, Man-wai Chang ToDie <toylet.toy... DeleteThis @gmail.com>
wrote:
> > - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> > etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> > I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> > simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> > everything worked fine before.
>
> Power supply?
>
> --
> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
> /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.1
> ^ ^ 20:23:01 up 2 days 3:15 1 user load average: 0.00 0.04 0.01
> news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk

I thought of that also, so I disconnected CD drive from power to
reduce consumption, but no progress.
Thanks anyway.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:00 am
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> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> everything worked fine before.

Power supply?



--
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/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.1
^ ^ 20:23:01 up 2 days 3:15 1 user load average: 0.00 0.04 0.01
news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:17 am
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I don't care what mem test reported you ram chip is bad
<domenm.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> ok, I finally gave up (almost Smile). You are my last hope to solve my
> problem.
> I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
> all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>
> Here are the details:
> - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
> RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
> years now.
> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> everything worked fine before.
> - tried some hints like:
> - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
> - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
> - rotate the modules ==> NOK
> - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>
> I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
> voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
> it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> BR
> D.M
>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:59 pm
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>snip<
> I don't care what mem test reported you ram chip is bad
>
>
No it isn't. If you wish to install two seperate sticks of ram in any A7V600
or 600-X they must be single sided sticks of ram and be identical in every
way. The A7V600 series was an arsehole of a board as far as ram goes. There
is no dual channel on those boards either.
Probably if you look carefully at your ram you will see that the brand of
the chipsets are different.
As an example I have 3X1GB sticks of TwinMOS DDR400 ram bought at different
times. The oldest stick has TwinMOS chips, the middle aged stick has Mtec
chips and the newest stick has Hynix chipsets. Any two sticks will play
together nicely but never in dual channel mode simply because the chipsets
are different.
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