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Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 89
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:34 pm
Post subject: Re: PC crashing after installing additional RAM [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>comp>periphs>mainboard>asus (more info?)
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On Nov 15, 8:09 am, dom... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>Power supply?
> I thought of that also, so I disconnected CD drive from power to
> reduce consumption, but no progress.
First, memory must be rated for what motherboard supplies. If memory
provider defined that SIMM for your motherboard, then voltage should
be correct.
Second, dust or contact corrosion only creates problems in myths. A
good connector is self cleaning when connections are made. When
corrosion creates a problem, then the hardware is so defective that
even a slightly inferior connector creates problems.
Third, your suspects are power supply voltages, memory chip, and
interconnecting motherboard hardware. (This assumes you used the
exact type chip recommended by the memory company since some companies
such as Gateway would play games with memory, maybe to blame you for
not buying memory from them).
From that suspect list, the power supply can only be confirmed with
computer fully loaded and executing (multitasking) all peripherals
when a meter measures voltages. Most important for you are those
voltages on any one yellow, red, and orange wire from power supply.
Voltage must exceed 3.23, 4.87, and 11.7 volts.
Moving on, the other suspects can be identified by MemTst86 either
at room temperature or at normal high room temperatures - 100 degree
F. The best Memtst86 report comes from hotter temperatures. If
necessary, use a hairdryer as hot as possible to heat SIMM and
adjacent motherboard peripheral chips during that test.
Chances are the memory is defective which will only be apparent in
Memtst86 during higher temperatures. However, it is possible to have
a motherboard defective that is only made apparently by the larger
memory size. Sorry, I have no simple way of identifying that problem
other than putting the memory in another computer to execute same
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Since: Nov 12, 2006 Posts: 60
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:01 am
Post subject: Re: PC crashing after installing additional RAM [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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<domenm.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> ok, I finally gave up (almost ). You are my last hope to solve my
> problem.
> I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
> all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>
> Here are the details:
> - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
> RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
> years now.
> - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
> etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
> I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
> simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
> everything worked fine before.
> - tried some hints like:
> - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
> - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
> - rotate the modules ==> NOK
> - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>
> I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
> voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
> it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
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Since: Feb 16, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:39 pm
Post subject: Re: PC crashing after installing additional RAM [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I had exactly the same problem. I have two 1 gig RAM modules and they
work fine. When I had 2 more 1 Gig RAM modules the system starts to
crash and often won't even boot up properly. I think the module(s)
are defective, at least that is what a repair technician thinks. I
still have those modules, they are made by Corsair. Someone said they
have a lifetime warranty and that I could return them to the mfr, but
I have not pursued that yet.
They also fail to boot when I remove the original modules and install
the Corsair ones in their place.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:27:58 -0800, domenm.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>On 14 nov., 21:20, "Cub" <c....RemoveThis@home.com> wrote:
>> <dom....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>>
>> > ok, I finally gave up (almost ). You are my last hope to solve my
>> > problem.
>> > I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
>> > all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>>
>> > Here are the details:
>> > - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
>> > RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
>> > years now.
>> > - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
>> > etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
>> > I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
>> > simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
>> > everything worked fine before.
>> > - tried some hints like:
>> > - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
>> > - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
>> > - rotate the modules ==> NOK
>> > - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>>
>> > I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
>> > voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
>> > it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>>
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> > BR
>> > D.M
>>
>> So what about testing with only the origianl ram module in , in the original
>> slot ?
>>
>> ** Keep away from voltage settings**
>
>
>I have done that also, just to be sure. As I said the system worked
>fine for 3 years with 1 mem stick.
>
>Thanx.
>BR
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Since: Feb 12, 2008 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:39 pm
Post subject: Re: PC crashing after installing additional RAM [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Don't know if it has anything to do with it but i would guess
that the timings of the memory you got are not the same as the one
you had.
Recently, i bought 2 more 1 GB Corsair memory modules for my PC,
like the ones i had, with the exception of the timings: the original
were CL5 and the newer ones were CL4. Everything worked fine, for a
while (a few days), and then i started having crash after crash
after crash. I thought i had a problem with windows so i tried to
repair it but it started to crash there as well. That got me pissed,
so i formated the drive. Started a fresh install and it was going OK
until ... just after it had finished installing, it started crashing
again so i thought it might have something to do with my hardware.
After LOTS of wasted time trying to find the hardware problem i
tried to do a fresh install with the original memory only and it
worked fine. Tried putting the memory in the other 2 slots to see if
the problem was with the board and that too worked fine and that
meant i could, finally, reach a conclusion: the newer memory was
faulty ... until, just to double check, i tried the newer memory
instead of the old one and ... it worked too. WTF???? Tried changing
the slots of the newer memory and it worked as well.
Long story short, as far as i can tell, all 4 DIMMs work well:
just not all 4 the same time. It could be you have a similar
problem: have you checked to be sure that all your memory have the
same timings?
Hope this can help shed some light into the problem, HTC
"I had exactly the same problem. I have two 1 gig RAM modules and
they
work fine. When I had 2 more 1 Gig RAM modules the system starts to
crash and often won't even boot up properly. I think the module(s)
are defective, at least that is what a repair technician thinks. I
still have those modules, they are made by Corsair. Someone said
they
have a lifetime warranty and that I could return them to the mfr,
but
I have not pursued that yet.
They also fail to boot when I remove the original modules and
install
the Corsair ones in their place.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:27:58 -0800, domenm RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>On 14 nov., 21:20, "Cub" <c... RemoveThis @home.com> wrote:
>> <dom... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>>
>> > ok, I finally gave up (almost ). You are my last hope to
solve my
>> > problem.
>> > I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I
read
>> > all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>>
>> > Here are the details:
>> > - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset
with 1
>> > RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine
for 3
>> > years now.
>> > - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same
manufacturer,
>> > etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become
interested.
>> > I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the
PC is
>> > simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
>> > everything worked fine before.
>> > - tried some hints like:
>> > - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
>> > - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
>> > - rotate the modules ==> NOK
>> > - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>>
>> > I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play
with
>> > voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm
not sure
>> > it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same
problems?
>>
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> > BR
>> > D.M
>>
>> So what about testing with only the origianl ram module in , in
the original
>> slot ?
>>
>> ** Keep away from voltage settings**
>
>
>I have done that also, just to be sure. As I said the system
worked
>fine for 3 years with 1 mem stick.
>
>Thanx.
>BR" >> Stay informed about: PC crashing after installing additional RAM |
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Since: Nov 07, 2003 Posts: 2178
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:04 am
Post subject: Re: PC crashing after installing additional RAM [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Previously wdgeddes.RemoveThis@rogers.com wrote:
> I had exactly the same problem. I have two 1 gig RAM modules and they
> work fine. When I had 2 more 1 Gig RAM modules the system starts to
> crash and often won't even boot up properly. I think the module(s)
> are defective, at least that is what a repair technician thinks. I
> still have those modules, they are made by Corsair. Someone said they
> have a lifetime warranty and that I could return them to the mfr, but
> I have not pursued that yet.
A 4 module configuration is far les forgiving than a two module
configuration. This can lead to the described configuration.
> They also fail to boot when I remove the original modules and install
> the Corsair ones in their place.
That is a sign that the modules are either defect or incompatible
with the mainboard. re they loisted in the certified memory
modules list for that board? The problem is, that if they are
incompatible, no number of warranty replacements will
fix the problem.
Arno
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:27:58 -0800, domenm.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>On 14 nov., 21:20, "Cub" <c....RemoveThis@home.com> wrote:
>>> <dom....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>>
>>> > ok, I finally gave up (almost ). You are my last hope to solve my
>>> > problem.
>>> > I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
>>> > all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>>>
>>> > Here are the details:
>>> > - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
>>> > RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
>>> > years now.
>>> > - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
>>> > etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
>>> > I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
>>> > simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
>>> > everything worked fine before.
>>> > - tried some hints like:
>>> > - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
>>> > - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
>>> > - rotate the modules ==> NOK
>>> > - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>>>
>>> > I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
>>> > voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
>>> > it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>>>
>>> > Thanks in advance.
>>> > BR
>>> > D.M
>>>
>>> So what about testing with only the origianl ram module in , in the original
>>> slot ?
>>>
>>> ** Keep away from voltage settings**
>>
>>
>>I have done that also, just to be sure. As I said the system worked
>>fine for 3 years with 1 mem stick.
>>
>>Thanx.
>>BR
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Since: Feb 05, 2008 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:04 pm
Post subject: Re: PC crashing after installing additional RAM [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:27:58 -0800, domenm.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On 14 nov., 21:20, "Cub" <c....DeleteThis@home.com> wrote:
>>> <dom....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1195070907.577607.30920@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>>
>>> > ok, I finally gave up (almost ). You are my last hope to solve my
>>> > problem.
>>> > I know this has been asked and answered many times here, and I read
>>> > all the posts, tried all the hints, but ...
>>>
>>> > Here are the details:
>>> > - I have ASUS motherboard A7V600-x, VIA KT400(A)/600 chipset with 1
>>> > RAM module (Kingston 512MG, PC2300 DDR400). This worked fine for 3
>>> > years now.
>>> > - bought new RAM module, same speed, same type, same manufacturer,
>>> > etc. After installing this into my comp, the story become interested.
>>> > I use Win XP and after working for some time (15-20 min), the PC is
>>> > simply restarted. Definitely I blame additional RAM, because
>>> > everything worked fine before.
>>> > - tried some hints like:
>>> > - test with only new RAM module ==> OK
>>> > - put 1 module to slot 1, the other into slot 3 ==>NOK
>>> > - rotate the modules ==> NOK
>>> > - upgrade BIOS with the latest version ==> NOK
>>>
>>> > I really need an advice - what else I can do? I haven't play with
>>> > voltage settings yet, but I don't know how to do it, and I'm not sure
>>> > it will help at all. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems?
>>>
>>> > Thanks in advance.
>>> > BR
>>> > D.M
>>>
>>> So what about testing with only the origianl ram module in , in the
>>> original
>>> slot ?
>>>
>>> ** Keep away from voltage settings**
>>
>>
>>I have done that also, just to be sure. As I said the system worked
>>fine for 3 years with 1 mem stick.
>>
>>Thanx.
>>BR
>
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<wdgeddes.DeleteThis@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I had exactly the same problem. I have two 1 gig RAM modules and they
> work fine. When I had 2 more 1 Gig RAM modules the system starts to
> crash and often won't even boot up properly. I think the module(s)
> are defective, at least that is what a repair technician thinks. I
> still have those modules, they are made by Corsair. Someone said they
> have a lifetime warranty and that I could return them to the mfr, but
> I have not pursued that yet.
>
> They also fail to boot when I remove the original modules and install
> the Corsair ones in their place.
>
>
>
You may be interested in this reply posted by Colin Barnhorst in Microsoft's
x64 newsgroup:
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It depends on your mobo. There are a lot of reports of problems running
four dimms of pc6400 ram, whether 4x1GB or 4x2GB on consumer mobos. It
isn't so much the amount of ram as the number of dimm slots filled.
A common resolution is not to use pc6400 or reduce the dram speed to 667.
Mobos with nVidia chipsets are mentioned most often. Nforce4, 650i, and
680i are ones I know about. The problem seems to be a combination of
factors that overload the memory controller at 800 with all four dimm slots
filled. You don't give any specifics of your hardware so that's about all I
can tell you. By the way, the problem isn't confined to Vista x64. It also
exists with XP Pro x64.
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For what it's worth, I've had no problems with 4GB on either of my two Asus
intel chipset mobos. But the issue certainly exists, and this could be a
resolution. The suggested reduction of speed to 667 does not make a big
difference - and may enable you to use some judicious overclocking with RAM
that would otherwise not be co-operative.
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Since: Nov 20, 2007 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:33 am
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On Feb 17, 7:01 am, Arno Wagner <m... DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:
> That is a sign that the modules are either defect or incompatible
> with the mainboard. re they loisted in the certified memory
> modules list for that board? The problem is, that if they are
> incompatible, no number of warranty replacements will
> fix the problem.
>
> Arno
Not necessarily! I've posted previously about a problem I encountered
when going
from 2GB to 4GB of RAM on my Asus M2A-VM HDMI. Even though the sticks
were from different manufacturers, it wasn't a hardware issue at all.
An upgrade
to BIOS version 1501 solved the problem.
I believe that there would be general agreement in this group that a
BIOS upgrade
should be one of the first steps one should take when these kind of
issues arise.
At least you know that you're dealing with the "latest and greatest".
If problems
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