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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:02 am
Post subject: PC freeze playing MOHAA
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Sorry for posting here, but maybe it is a hardware issue (although I'm
doubting it). If there are any groups more appropriate, I'd appreciate some
pointers.
Anyway, I have a Dell PC, 3.4GHz Pentium-D, 1Gig RAM, 2x160Gig SATA,
PowerColor HD3850 256Mbyte graphics, DX9.0c, WinXP-home, all the latest
drivers that I could find. Ok, it's not the top-spec gaming machine, but it
ain't bad!
This machine will play most games with all eye candy maxed out; Quake4,
Doom3, Bioshock, Need for Speed Carbon, and various battle simulators. No
problem.
However, with Medal of Honor Allied Assault, when you load a saved game and
start to play, the PC will freeze and a power cycle is necessary. MOHAA is
quite an old game and I would've thought that the later games would be more
demanding. Starting a mission from the beginning, and everything is ok.
If I put the original graphics card back in, nVidia 7300LE (low spec PCIe),
then MOHAA runs/loads fine.
I've asked this question to EA and PowerColor, and just thought I'd
supplement their comments (none yet) with expert advice from here.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:09 am
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"Grumps" wrote in message news:60b44lF1qe0ptU1@mid.individual.net...
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> Anyway, I have a Dell PC, 3.4GHz Pentium-D, 1Gig RAM, 2x160Gig SATA,
> PowerColor HD3850 256Mbyte graphics, DX9.0c, WinXP-home, all the
> latest drivers that I could find. Ok, it's not the top-spec gaming
> machine, but it ain't bad!
>
> This machine will play most games with all eye candy maxed out;
> Quake4, Doom3, Bioshock, Need for Speed Carbon, and various battle
> simulators. No problem.
>
> However, with Medal of Honor Allied Assault, when you load a saved
> game and start to play, the PC will freeze and a power cycle is
> necessary. MOHAA is quite an old game and I would've thought that
> the later games would be more demanding. Starting a mission from the
> beginning, and everything is ok.
What makes you believe that the latest version of the video driver is
the best all-around version to play all your games. If the fixes for
the latest versions don't specifically mention bug fixes for your
games (and for bugs that you encounter) then revert to a prior version
of the video driver. You might have to walk back several versions
until you find one that doesn't cause the crash. Because you went
with the 3850 card, and depending on when MOHAA came out, there might
not be an old enough version of their driver that is compatible with
that game.
The latest version is not necessarily the best version for your
particular setup.
> If I put the original graphics card back in, nVidia 7300LE (low spec
> PCIe), then MOHAA runs/loads fine.
Because you are now using an older video driver which doesn't exhibit
the fault. You also switched from ATI back to nVidia. Some games
that work with one GPU won't work quite right with a different one.
Did you check the Event Viewer for warnings or errors at the time your
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:21 am
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"Grumps" <grumpsnothere.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry for posting here, but maybe it is a hardware issue (although I'm
> doubting it). If there are any groups more appropriate, I'd appreciate
> some pointers.
>
> Anyway, I have a Dell PC, 3.4GHz Pentium-D, 1Gig RAM, 2x160Gig SATA,
> PowerColor HD3850 256Mbyte graphics, DX9.0c, WinXP-home, all the latest
> drivers that I could find. Ok, it's not the top-spec gaming machine, but
> it ain't bad!
>
> This machine will play most games with all eye candy maxed out; Quake4,
> Doom3, Bioshock, Need for Speed Carbon, and various battle simulators. No
> problem.
>
> However, with Medal of Honor Allied Assault, when you load a saved game
> and start to play, the PC will freeze and a power cycle is necessary.
> MOHAA is quite an old game and I would've thought that the later games
> would be more demanding. Starting a mission from the beginning, and
> everything is ok.
>
> If I put the original graphics card back in, nVidia 7300LE (low spec
> PCIe), then MOHAA runs/loads fine.
>
> I've asked this question to EA and PowerColor, and just thought I'd
> supplement their comments (none yet) with expert advice from here.
>
> Thanks for any clues.
>
>
Two things spring to mind ..... putting that 3850 in will have increased
power consumption
substantially - make sure you have a adequate PSU in the case - a decent
quality 450watt PSU.
Secondly thats a old OpenGL game and one thing ATI have never done well is
OpenGL -
I suspect you need an older OpenGL driver but would an older driver work
with a brand new card.
With Quake-engine games you can put an opengl.dll file in the game folder
and the game will use that
rather than the one in c:\windows\system32 - I would try something like the
opengl.dll from the 4.3 catalysts. >> Stay informed about: PC freeze playing MOHAA |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:33 am
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"Sleepy" <nospam RemoveThis @here.com> wrote in message
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> "Grumps" <grumpsnothere RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:60b44lF1qe0ptU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Sorry for posting here, but maybe it is a hardware issue (although I'm
>> doubting it). If there are any groups more appropriate, I'd appreciate
>> some pointers.
>>
>> Anyway, I have a Dell PC, 3.4GHz Pentium-D, 1Gig RAM, 2x160Gig SATA,
>> PowerColor HD3850 256Mbyte graphics, DX9.0c, WinXP-home, all the latest
>> drivers that I could find. Ok, it's not the top-spec gaming machine, but
>> it ain't bad!
>>
>> This machine will play most games with all eye candy maxed out; Quake4,
>> Doom3, Bioshock, Need for Speed Carbon, and various battle simulators. No
>> problem.
>>
>> However, with Medal of Honor Allied Assault, when you load a saved game
>> and start to play, the PC will freeze and a power cycle is necessary.
>> MOHAA is quite an old game and I would've thought that the later games
>> would be more demanding. Starting a mission from the beginning, and
>> everything is ok.
>>
>> If I put the original graphics card back in, nVidia 7300LE (low spec
>> PCIe), then MOHAA runs/loads fine.
>>
>> I've asked this question to EA and PowerColor, and just thought I'd
>> supplement their comments (none yet) with expert advice from here.
>>
>> Thanks for any clues.
>>
>>
>
> Two things spring to mind ..... putting that 3850 in will have increased
> power consumption
> substantially - make sure you have a adequate PSU in the case - a decent
> quality 450watt PSU.
I had thought about this, but assumed that if other games run ok (maxing out
the CPU and GPU), then the current one would suffice. And MOHAA will run as
long as you don't load a saved game.
It's a Dell PSU that came with the machine. Described as 305W, +12VA&B at
18A each, but not to exceed 264W. A little low, but I can easily try
something beefier.
> Secondly thats a old OpenGL game and one thing ATI have never done well is
> OpenGL -
> I suspect you need an older OpenGL driver but would an older driver work
> with a brand new card.
> With Quake-engine games you can put an opengl.dll file in the game folder
> and the game will use that
> rather than the one in c:\windows\system32 - I would try something like
> the opengl.dll from the 4.3 catalysts.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:50 pm
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"Sleepy" <nospam.RemoveThis@here.com> wrote in message
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> "Grumps" <grumpsnothere.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:60b44lF1qe0ptU1@mid.individual.net...
> Secondly thats a old OpenGL game and one thing ATI have never done well is
> OpenGL -
> I suspect you need an older OpenGL driver but would an older driver work
> with a brand new card.
> With Quake-engine games you can put an opengl.dll file in the game folder
> and the game will use that
> rather than the one in c:\windows\system32 - I would try something like
> the opengl.dll from the 4.3 catalysts.
I got both the 3.9 and 4.3 catalysts, but the opengl dll is called
atioglxx.dll. Is this the file that you'd put in your game folder? As is, or
renamed?
Ta. >> Stay informed about: PC freeze playing MOHAA |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:27 pm
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"Grumps" <grumpsnothere DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Sleepy" <nospam DeleteThis @here.com> wrote in message
> news:r5Znj.10478$801.5060@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> <some stuff snipped>
>> "Grumps" <grumpsnothere DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:60b44lF1qe0ptU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Secondly thats a old OpenGL game and one thing ATI have never done well
>> is OpenGL -
>> I suspect you need an older OpenGL driver but would an older driver work
>> with a brand new card.
>> With Quake-engine games you can put an opengl.dll file in the game folder
>> and the game will use that
>> rather than the one in c:\windows\system32 - I would try something like
>> the opengl.dll from the 4.3 catalysts.
>
> I got both the 3.9 and 4.3 catalysts, but the opengl dll is called
> atioglxx.dll. Is this the file that you'd put in your game folder? As is,
> or renamed?
> Ta.
>
>
as is I think - sometimes its called OpenGL.dll or OpenGL32.dll or
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:07 pm
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"VanguardLH" <V.TakeThisOut@nguard.LH> wrote in message
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> "Grumps" wrote in message news:60b44lF1qe0ptU1@mid.individual.net...
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>> Anyway, I have a Dell PC, 3.4GHz Pentium-D, 1Gig RAM, 2x160Gig SATA,
>> PowerColor HD3850 256Mbyte graphics, DX9.0c, WinXP-home, all the latest
>> drivers that I could find. Ok, it's not the top-spec gaming machine, but
>> it ain't bad!
>>
>> This machine will play most games with all eye candy maxed out; Quake4,
>> Doom3, Bioshock, Need for Speed Carbon, and various battle simulators. No
>> problem.
>>
>> However, with Medal of Honor Allied Assault, when you load a saved game
>> and start to play, the PC will freeze and a power cycle is necessary.
>> MOHAA is quite an old game and I would've thought that the later games
>> would be more demanding. Starting a mission from the beginning, and
>> everything is ok.
>
> What makes you believe that the latest version of the video driver is the
> best all-around version to play all your games. If the fixes for the
> latest versions don't specifically mention bug fixes for your games (and
> for bugs that you encounter) then revert to a prior version of the video
> driver. You might have to walk back several versions until you find one
> that doesn't cause the crash. Because you went with the 3850 card, and
> depending on when MOHAA came out, there might not be an old enough version
> of their driver that is compatible with that game.
>
> The latest version is not necessarily the best version for your particular
> setup.
>
>> If I put the original graphics card back in, nVidia 7300LE (low spec
>> PCIe), then MOHAA runs/loads fine.
>
> Because you are now using an older video driver which doesn't exhibit the
> fault. You also switched from ATI back to nVidia. Some games that work
> with one GPU won't work quite right with a different one. Did you check
> the Event Viewer for warnings or errors at the time your host crashed
> before when using the 3850 video card?
Thanks for the reply.
There is nothing (that helps) in the event log(s). The PC just dies.
I agree, there may not be a working driver for this card to enable this game
to run; but there must surely be a fix/workaround somewhere.
It's so strange that starting this game from the beginning will result in
normal play. Only when loading a saved game does it cause a freeze a short
while later.
The graphics card manufacturer says it is almost certainly an EA fault as
the card works fine with everything else. >> Stay informed about: PC freeze playing MOHAA |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:07 pm
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"Grumps" wrote in message news:60bqsdF1qas6cU1@mid.individual.net...
> It's so strange that starting this game from the beginning will
> result in normal play. Only when loading a saved game does it cause
> a freeze a short while later.
Have you started playing a *new* game (from scratch and not from a
save) and then saving the game and trying to use *that* save to
restart the game? If that works, the other saves are corrupted. That
isn't something new. A save that gets corrupted can carry that
corruption forward to each subsequent save. You have to go back to a
prior save that works and play from there while discarding all
subsequent saves. I ran into this with the first 2 series of the
Thief games: you couldn't go forward from a corrupted save even if the
game played okay from that point because later saves would cause a
problem, so you had to walk back through the saves finding one that
worked going forward. If you cannot start a new game and do a save
and restart from that first save then there is a problem in the game
itself.
Have you yet checked if there is a patch for that game? >> Stay informed about: PC freeze playing MOHAA |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:07 pm
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Oh, and something else. I have run into games that when installed
BEFORE a video card change will not run properly after the video card
change. During install they did some detection and set themselves up
for operating under that hardware environment but now you changed it.
For those games, and after installing the new video card (which proved
not to work with the current game's setup), I would have to uninstall
and then reinstall the game. Some games provide a separate config
utility to do that hardware detection after the install but not all
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:04 pm
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"VanguardLH" <V DeleteThis @nguard.LH> wrote in message
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> "Grumps" wrote in message news:60bqsdF1qas6cU1@mid.individual.net...
>> It's so strange that starting this game from the beginning will result in
>> normal play. Only when loading a saved game does it cause a freeze a
>> short while later.
>
> Have you started playing a *new* game (from scratch and not from a save)
> and then saving the game and trying to use *that* save to restart the
> game?
I restarted the game from the beginning, then did a save. This save-game
also caused a freeze.
> If that works, the other saves are corrupted. That isn't something new.
> A save that gets corrupted can carry that corruption forward to each
> subsequent save. You have to go back to a prior save that works and play
> from there while discarding all subsequent saves. I ran into this with
> the first 2 series of the Thief games: you couldn't go forward from a
> corrupted save even if the game played okay from that point because later
> saves would cause a problem, so you had to walk back through the saves
> finding one that worked going forward. If you cannot start a new game and
> do a save and restart from that first save then there is a problem in the
> game itself.
>
> Have you yet checked if there is a patch for that game?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:04 pm
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"VanguardLH" <V DeleteThis @nguard.LH> wrote in message
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> Oh, and something else. I have run into games that when installed BEFORE
> a video card change will not run properly after the video card change.
> During install they did some detection and set themselves up for operating
> under that hardware environment but now you changed it. For those games,
> and after installing the new video card (which proved not to work with the
> current game's setup), I would have to uninstall and then reinstall the
> game.
Did that too. Un-installed and re-installed. Still no worky!
May try deleting all previous save games. I did read something about other
games misbehaving if there are too many saves!!!
> Some games provide a separate config utility to do that hardware detection
> after the install but not all do.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:04 pm
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"Grumps" <grumpsnothere.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "VanguardLH" <V.TakeThisOut@nguard.LH> wrote in message
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>> "Grumps" wrote in message
>> news:60bqsdF1qas6cU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> It's so strange that starting this game from the beginning will
>>> result in normal play. Only when loading a saved game does it
>>> cause a freeze a short while later.
>>
>> Have you started playing a *new* game (from scratch and not from a
>> save) and then saving the game and trying to use *that* save to
>> restart the game?
>
> I restarted the game from the beginning, then did a save. This
> save-game also caused a freeze.
>
>> If that works, the other saves are corrupted. That isn't something
>> new. A save that gets corrupted can carry that corruption forward
>> to each subsequent save. You have to go back to a prior save that
>> works and play from there while discarding all subsequent saves. I
>> ran into this with the first 2 series of the Thief games: you
>> couldn't go forward from a corrupted save even if the game played
>> okay from that point because later saves would cause a problem, so
>> you had to walk back through the saves finding one that worked
>> going forward. If you cannot start a new game and do a save and
>> restart from that first save then there is a problem in the game
>> itself.
>>
>> Have you yet checked if there is a patch for that game?
>
> Thanks, I have the latest patch.
>
>
Does MOHAA say that it supports being played under Windows XP? Could
be you're screwed and will need to play it under a prior version of
Windows. You might want to check into multibooting (and not
dualbooting) by allocating some space on the hard disk for another
partition in which you install Windows 98. Note that installing
Windows 98 after installing any version of NT-based Windows will screw
up the bootstrap code in the MBR, so you will probably have to run the
Recovery Console from the install CD of Windows XP to run the FIXMBR
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:04 pm
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"VanguardLH" <V DeleteThis @nguard.LH> wrote in message
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> "Grumps" <grumpsnothere DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "VanguardLH" <V DeleteThis @nguard.LH> wrote in message
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>>> "Grumps" wrote in message news:60bqsdF1qas6cU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> It's so strange that starting this game from the beginning will result
>>>> in normal play. Only when loading a saved game does it cause a freeze a
>>>> short while later.
>>>
>>> Have you started playing a *new* game (from scratch and not from a save)
>>> and then saving the game and trying to use *that* save to restart the
>>> game?
>>
>> I restarted the game from the beginning, then did a save. This save-game
>> also caused a freeze.
>>
>>> If that works, the other saves are corrupted. That isn't something new.
>>> A save that gets corrupted can carry that corruption forward to each
>>> subsequent save. You have to go back to a prior save that works and
>>> play from there while discarding all subsequent saves. I ran into this
>>> with the first 2 series of the Thief games: you couldn't go forward from
>>> a corrupted save even if the game played okay from that point because
>>> later saves would cause a problem, so you had to walk back through the
>>> saves finding one that worked going forward. If you cannot start a new
>>> game and do a save and restart from that first save then there is a
>>> problem in the game itself.
>>>
>>> Have you yet checked if there is a patch for that game?
>>
>> Thanks, I have the latest patch.
>>
>>
>
>
> Does MOHAA say that it supports being played under Windows XP?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:13 am
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"Grumps" <grumpsnothere.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "VanguardLH" <V.DeleteThis@nguard.LH> wrote in message
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>> Does MOHAA say that it supports being played under Windows XP?
>
> Yes, 2000/95/98/Me/XP.
Then try booting Windows into its Safe Mode and make sure that the
anti-virus doesn't run in Safe Mode or you disable it (and any other
security or anti-malware programs). That's about a clean an
environment you will get without having to do a fresh install of
Windows. That's assuming the game will play under Safe Mode. Some
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:05 am
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"Grumps" <grumpsnothere DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry for posting here, but maybe it is a hardware issue (although I'm
> doubting it). If there are any groups more appropriate, I'd appreciate
> some pointers.
>
> Anyway, I have a Dell PC, 3.4GHz Pentium-D, 1Gig RAM, 2x160Gig SATA,
> PowerColor HD3850 256Mbyte graphics, DX9.0c, WinXP-home, all the latest
> drivers that I could find. Ok, it's not the top-spec gaming machine, but
> it ain't bad!
>
> This machine will play most games with all eye candy maxed out; Quake4,
> Doom3, Bioshock, Need for Speed Carbon, and various battle simulators. No
> problem.
>
> However, with Medal of Honor Allied Assault, when you load a saved game
> and start to play, the PC will freeze and a power cycle is necessary.
> MOHAA is quite an old game and I would've thought that the later games
> would be more demanding. Starting a mission from the beginning, and
> everything is ok.
>
> If I put the original graphics card back in, nVidia 7300LE (low spec
> PCIe), then MOHAA runs/loads fine.
>
> I've asked this question to EA and PowerColor, and just thought I'd
> supplement their comments (none yet) with expert advice from here.
>
> Thanks for any clues.
>
>
I have a copy of MoH:AA so I thought I'd try it on my PC which is fairly
similar to yours
..... WinXP Pro + SP2
AMD X2 3800 o/c to 2.4ghz
2gb DDR
Sapphire 3850 256mb with 7.11 drivers
2 SATA II drives
quicksave worked and loading from quicksaves worked fine - I made sure to
exit and restart
the game before loading saves - no problems.
So no problem with XP and recent drivers or using a dual-core CPU. though
you could disable hyper-threading
temporarily to see if it makes a differance. MoHAA uses an older version of
OpenGL to Doom3 so Im
inclined to think its still driver related. >> Stay informed about: PC freeze playing MOHAA |
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