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ProphetX

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:01 pm
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I have nvidia FX5900 and recebtly I installed the new forceware 56 drivers.
My previous version was 53. When I ran 3D marks and especially the "Mother
Nature" the frame reate was way below in compare with my old drivers. At the
end I got an overall of 28.9fps. The 53 version gave me 39.8fps. Does anyone
else has the same problem?

ProphetX

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:52 pm
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"ProphetX" <prophetx DeleteThis @tellas.gr> wrote in message news:<ZFy6c.76929$Kc3.2459364@twister2.libero.it>...
 > I have nvidia FX5900 and recebtly I installed the new forceware 56 drivers.
 > My previous version was 53. When I ran 3D marks and especially the "Mother
 > Nature" the frame reate was way below in compare with my old drivers. At the
 > end I got an overall of 28.9fps. The 53 version gave me 39.8fps. Does anyone
 > else has the same problem?
 >
 > ProphetX

How do the other games run....

Maybe 53.x contained cheats ( I believe I read so..somewhere ) and
that 56.x has the cheats not! If indeed this, then it's not strange
that without cheats things go slower.

Hehe, one benchmark website checked if the XGI had cheats and in a few
games it had. In the way of "with cheats 40 FPS, without cheats 8
FPS"..and that coupled with the fact that the cheats...they look
horrible, turbo texturing ( rending a small texture and stretching it
), washed out, no aniso on....

Bad thingy, so the cheating of nvidia is just childsplay ( if atleast
your case was cheating )<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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PRIVATE1964

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:55 pm
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I noticed a big drop in the nature test with my 4200. My total score went down
around 1000 points with no AA. With 2AA or 4X the score stayed almost the same
maybe 200 or so less points.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:49 am
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I like how they post that these drivers will boost perforamance of all Nvidia
cards made in the last 6 years. These drivers suck IMO.
I'm using the 44.03's and keep going back to them. Maybe there is cheats in
them, but I can't tell so how can I ever miss some graphic imrovements I have
never seen?
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root3

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:29 pm
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I have just gone back to 45.23 as the video overlay is fucked up in
the forceware drivers!!!!

UT2004 runs fine, with a few more fps as well.

Come on Nvidia get your act together...

On 19 Mar 2004 22:49:44 GMT, private1964.DeleteThis@aol.com (PRIVATE1964) wrote:

 > I like how they post that these drivers will boost perforamance of all Nvidia
 >cards made in the last 6 years. These drivers suck IMO.
 >I'm using the 44.03's and keep going back to them. Maybe there is cheats in
 >them, but I can't tell so how can I ever miss some graphic imrovements I have
 >never seen?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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PRIVATE1964

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:29 pm
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 >I have just gone back to 45.23 as the video overlay is fucked up in
 >the forceware drivers!!!!

Maybe were missing something here. I always read better performance, but it
never happens.
Could it be better performance in one application that no one in real life ever
uses?
I'm using the 44.03's I seem to always get the best scores in benchmarks with
them. I also have not seen any stability or bugs in any games I have using them
either. Framerates in games also seem to be very good overall. If there are
cheats in them so they get a better score in 3DMark I wouldn't know it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Aki Peltola

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:54 pm
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"PRIVATE1964" <private1964.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote
 > I'm using the 44.03's I seem to always get the best scores in benchmarks
with
 > them. I also have not seen any stability or bugs in any games I have using
them
 > either. Framerates in games also seem to be very good overall. If there
are
 > cheats in them so they get a better score in 3DMark I wouldn't know it.

Hmmm... Does it really matter even if there really are cheats
concerning games, benchmarks etc. if users can't see any
differences compared to non-cheaty drivers? I mean, aren't
speed and framerates the only things that matter? Smile<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:53 pm
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 >Hmmm... Does it really matter even if there really are cheats
 >concerning games, benchmarks etc. if users can't see any
 >differences compared to non-cheaty drivers? I mean, aren't
 >speed and framerates the only things that matter? Smile

That's exactly what I meant by how can you miss something you have never seen.
If the cheat was really noticable then I wouldn't want it. I do like good
quality graphics within reason.
There are also extra quality settings that you can fine tune such as
antialiasing and anisotropic filtering so overall you end up with the best
quality and fastest framerate possible.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:50 pm
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On 21 Mar 2004 03:33:51 GMT, private1964 RemoveThis @aol.com (PRIVATE1964) wrote:

  >>I have just gone back to 45.23 as the video overlay is fucked up in
  >>the forceware drivers!!!!
 >
 >Maybe were missing something here. I always read better performance, but it
 >never happens.
 >Could it be better performance in one application that no one in real life ever
 >uses?
 >I'm using the 44.03's I seem to always get the best scores in benchmarks with
 >them. I also have not seen any stability or bugs in any games I have using them
 >either. Framerates in games also seem to be very good overall. If there are
 >cheats in them so they get a better score in 3DMark I wouldn't know it.

I think the performance and general operating features are tied
together and you either get good frame rates or poor / NO
functionality in the video overlay / font / desktop rendering.

I think Nvidia is getting to caught up in the frame rate game and have
lost site of the big picture and they will have people, such as
myself, going backwards until they sort it out.

The big problem is the nice Nview features in the forceware drivers
makes the use of the TV out and other NON GAMING type features easy to
use so there is merit in moving forward.

The stick with what you happy with line may be fine for some, but with
new driver releases are bug fixes, even if Nvidia is not willing to
admit to them, that are needed for some people.

Oh, and the performance comment, I think performance is a measure of
the WHOLE functionality of the driver, not just the OpenGL or DirectX
parts.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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