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Since: Dec 02, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:42 pm
Post subject: Problem with PCI IDE controller
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Using Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 IDE contoller with two WD drives (80GB,
120GB), each with 3 partitions. System uses a Chaintech 6BTM Slot1
motherboard (BX chipset) with Award BIOS, Celeron 1400 MHz processor
in slotket, 448MB RAM with Windows 98SE. Internal IDE controller has
6GB and 2GB HD drives plus a CD and DVD+RW drives.
I've had 4 crashes in 6 months now, and only since adding the IDE
controller. The system locks up and trashes the FAT on one or more
partitions on the "external" controller hard disks, typically the
partitions being accessed at the time of the crash. Result: many
orphaned files, trashed directories and worse. Maxtor's Drivemax
utility reports no problems on any HDD. And I'm using the latest
drivers.
Any ideas? Would XP be more stable? It seems to have the same
driver.
Separately, Windows Explorer takes several tens of seconds to update
the file list after a multiple file copy or file delete. Is this a
caching issue?
TIA.
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Since: Nov 30, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with PCI IDE controller [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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My first guess is data corruption between chipset and the Maxtor IDE. Second
guess is bad power to drives, especially with power splitters. Third guess
is bad memory or too many SIMMs.
Your MB&chipset is an antique. You can get a much better i815 chipset MB on
ebay and use its UDMA IDE.
"Mark" <markincambs RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1bcpsvcgnai7e0de50kmdm8uhcenk0hs9t@4ax.com...
> Using Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 IDE contoller with two WD drives (80GB,
> 120GB), each with 3 partitions. System uses a Chaintech 6BTM Slot1
> motherboard (BX chipset) with Award BIOS, Celeron 1400 MHz processor
> in slotket, 448MB RAM with Windows 98SE. Internal IDE controller has
> 6GB and 2GB HD drives plus a CD and DVD+RW drives.
>
> I've had 4 crashes in 6 months now, and only since adding the IDE
> controller. The system locks up and trashes the FAT on one or more
> partitions on the "external" controller hard disks, typically the
> partitions being accessed at the time of the crash. Result: many
> orphaned files, trashed directories and worse. Maxtor's Drivemax
> utility reports no problems on any HDD. And I'm using the latest
> drivers.
>
> Any ideas? Would XP be more stable? It seems to have the same
> driver.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with PCI IDE controller [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:42:57 +0000, Mark wrote:
> Using Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 IDE contoller with two WD drives (80GB, 120GB),
> each with 3 partitions. System uses a Chaintech 6BTM Slot1 motherboard
> (BX chipset) with Award BIOS, Celeron 1400 MHz processor in slotket, 448MB
> RAM with Windows 98SE. Internal IDE controller has 6GB and 2GB HD drives
> plus a CD and DVD+RW drives.
>
> I've had 4 crashes in 6 months now, and only since adding the IDE
> controller. The system locks up and trashes the FAT on one or more
> partitions on the "external" controller hard disks, typically the
> partitions being accessed at the time of the crash. Result: many orphaned
> files, trashed directories and worse. Maxtor's Drivemax utility reports
> no problems on any HDD. And I'm using the latest drivers.
>
> Any ideas? Would XP be more stable? It seems to have the same driver.
>
> Separately, Windows Explorer takes several tens of seconds to update the
> file list after a multiple file copy or file delete. Is this a caching
> issue?
>
> TIA.
It's a bit frightening expecting that lot to run smoothly under Windows 98.
If this is some sort of server I would say you need to upgrade the OS to
Windows XP.
But to return to your main problem, I would suspect your power supply here.
Is it big enough to power all four drives? Modern hard disks have fast spindle
speeds, they eat amps! I would say your PSU wold need to be at least 300 Watt
for all those drives 350 Watt would give you a bigger safety margin.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:23 am
Post subject: Re: Problem with PCI IDE controller [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:47:16 GMT, "Graham" <newsreader.RemoveThis@hate-spam.com>
wrote:
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>It's a bit frightening expecting that lot to run smoothly under Windows 98.
>If this is some sort of server I would say you need to upgrade the OS to
>Windows XP.
>But to return to your main problem, I would suspect your power supply here.
>Is it big enough to power all four drives? Modern hard disks have fast spindle
>speeds, they eat amps! I would say your PSU wold need to be at least 300 Watt
>for all those drives 350 Watt would give you a bigger safety margin.
It's a general purpose machine mainly used for speech
recognition/document editing and DV storage and basic video
editing/encoding before writing to DVD.
Hence the huge disk space and RAM.
But you may have a point about power although the disks are (only)
5400 rpm devices. A higher grade power supply is a cheap next option.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Problem with PCI IDE controller |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with PCI IDE controller [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Graham" <newsreader.RemoveThis@hate-spam.com> wrote in message news:9d8cfff061182255ec540d2bed6c591c@news.teranews.com...
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:42:57 +0000, Mark wrote:
>
> > Using Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 IDE contoller with two WD drives (80GB, 120GB),
> > each with 3 partitions. System uses a Chaintech 6BTM Slot1 motherboard
> > (BX chipset) with Award BIOS, Celeron 1400 MHz processor in slotket, 448MB
> > RAM with Windows 98SE. Internal IDE controller has 6GB and 2GB HD drives
> > plus a CD and DVD+RW drives.
> >
> > I've had 4 crashes in 6 months now, and only since adding the IDE
> > controller. The system locks up and trashes the FAT on one or more
> > partitions on the "external" controller hard disks, typically the
> > partitions being accessed at the time of the crash. Result: many orphaned
> > files, trashed directories and worse. Maxtor's Drivemax utility reports
> > no problems on any HDD. And I'm using the latest drivers.
> >
> > Any ideas? Would XP be more stable? It seems to have the same driver.
> >
> > Separately, Windows Explorer takes several tens of seconds to update the
> > file list after a multiple file copy or file delete. Is this a caching
> > issue?
> >
> > TIA.
>
>
> It's a bit frightening expecting that lot to run smoothly under Windows 98.
> If this is some sort of server I would say you need to upgrade the OS to
> Windows XP.
> But to return to your main problem, I would suspect your
> power supply here. Is it big enough to power all four drives?
> Modern hard disks have fast spindle speeds, they eat amps!
Bullshit.
> I would say your PSU wold need to be at least 300 Watt for
> all those drives 350 Watt would give you a bigger safety margin.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with PCI IDE controller [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:35:21 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
>> It's a bit frightening expecting that lot to run smoothly under Windows
>> 98. If this is some sort of server I would say you need to upgrade the
>> OS to Windows XP.
>
>> But to return to your main problem, I would suspect your power supply
>> here. Is it big enough to power all four drives? Modern hard disks have
>> fast spindle speeds, they eat amps!
>
> Bullshit.
>
>> I would say your PSU wold need to be at least 300 Watt for all those
>> drives 350 Watt would give you a bigger safety margin.
>
> Its unlikely to be the problem.
Please enlighten us with your pearls of wisdom.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with PCI IDE controller [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Mark <markincambs RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1bcpsvcgnai7e0de50kmdm8uhcenk0hs9t@4ax.com...
> Using Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 IDE contoller with two WD
> drives (80GB, 120GB), each with 3 partitions. System
> uses a Chaintech 6BTM Slot1 motherboard (BX chipset)
> with Award BIOS, Celeron 1400 MHz processor in slotket,
That could be your problem.
> 448MB RAM with Windows 98SE. Internal IDE controller
> has 6GB and 2GB HD drives plus a CD and DVD+RW drives.
> I've had 4 crashes in 6 months now, and only since adding
> the IDE controller. The system locks up and trashes the
> FAT on one or more partitions on the "external" controller
> hard disks, typically the partitions being accessed at the
> time of the crash. Result: many orphaned files, trashed
> directories and worse. Maxtor's Drivemax utility reports
> no problems on any HDD. And I'm using the latest drivers.
> Any ideas? Would XP be more stable?
Yes, but it may well not be relevant to that particular hardware problem.
> It seems to have the same driver.
Nope.
> Separately, Windows Explorer takes several tens
> of seconds to update the file list after a multiple
> file copy or file delete. Is this a caching issue?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with PCI IDE controller [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Graham <newsreader.RemoveThis@hate-spam.com> wrote in message news:7ae1c16bf13ea68e21b20e10f7366b1b@news.teranews.com...
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Graham <newsreader.RemoveThis@hate-spam.com> wrote
>>> It's a bit frightening expecting that lot to run smoothly
>>> under Windows 98. If this is some sort of server I would
>>> say you need to upgrade the OS to Windows XP.
>>> But to return to your main problem, I would suspect your power
>>> supply here. Is it big enough to power all four drives? Modern
>>> hard disks have fast spindle speeds, they eat amps!
>> Bullshit.
>>> I would say your PSU wold need to be at least 300 Watt for all
>>> those drives 350 Watt would give you a bigger safety margin.
>> Its unlikely to be the problem.
> Please enlighten us with your pearls of wisdom.
Already did. Obviously it was just pearls before swine in your case.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Problem with PCI IDE controller |
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