Problem with VA-503+ Mobo

Maybe the A2 manual shows them enabled, but my rev. A4 manual (8,9 on page
35, shows the Chipset Features Setup screen and they are shown as Disabled.
They may have changed them after researching the problem.

"Robert" <notmy RemoveThis @email.address> wrote in message
news:vr8mceqpvj6708@corp.supernews.com...
 > I hate to disagree with you Robert, but my Rev A2 manual shows both of
those
 > enabled. On the other hand, I do remember having to disable write cache
 > pipeline to get a Nvidia TNT AGP card working with the 503+ several years
 > ago.
 >
 > Also to answer the guys question a little more succinctly: If it ain't
 > broke don't mess with it and it sounds like your system ain't broke.
 >
 > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
 > news:QFXsb.40779$n6.38550@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
  > > There have been numerous instances of instability and other problems
  > > experienced by users of the 503+ with both of these settings enabled.
You
  > > can use Google and research old posts in this newsgroup and find
examples.
  > > In fact, in the 503+ manual (I think you can still download a PDF from
 > FIC)
  > > the example of the Chipset Features Setup screen shows these settings
  > > disabled. Google would also be a good place to look for recommended
BIOS
  > > settings (or I could e-mail them to you).
  > > Robert
  > > "?uzzled" <not RemoveThis @got.one> wrote in message
  > > news:bou755$q87$1@titan.btinternet.com...
   > > >
   > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
   > > > news:xZirb.26620$p9.21023@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
   > > > > Could be several things... in Chipset Setup, do you have Write Cache
   > > > > Pipeline and Read Around Write disabled?
   > > > > Robert
   > > >
   > > > I've been running my 503+ with both the settings you mentioned
enabled.
  > > Any
   > > > reasons why they should be disabled ? Are there any places to read to
 > set
   > > > the optimum BIOS settings ?
   > > >
   > > > If it makes any difference, my other specs are:
   > > >
   > > > Win98SE / Win2K SP3
   > > > K6-2 350 @ 450
   > > > 2 X 256Mb PC133
   > > > 8Gb IBM
   > > > 3Gb Seagate
   > > > 16Mb Voodoo 3 3000 AGP
   > > >
   > > > TIA
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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I checked the pdf versions on FIC's website and indeed they did change it in
the A4 rev (the A3 rev was the same as the A2). FIC may have had a reason
for changing the default values but my main point (which I obviously did not
make very clear) was that unless you have a reason (the OP was having
problems but it didn't sound like ?uzzled was) you don't need to worry about
these settings. Just because these settings have been known to cause
problems, that doesn't mean they will all by themselves start causing
problems in your system at some point in the future. However, if you add or
change a peripheral in the future and have problems, then as you suggested,
it would be warranted to search Google for references to that peripheral. If
you do find a reference to these settings then a change at that time would
be prudent. That was the not so succinct answer.

"Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:GRDtb.58959$p9.31848@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
 > Maybe the A2 manual shows them enabled, but my rev. A4 manual (8,9 on
page
 > 35, shows the Chipset Features Setup screen and they are shown as
Disabled.
 > They may have changed them after researching the problem.
 >
 > "Robert" <notmy RemoveThis @email.address> wrote in message
 > news:vr8mceqpvj6708@corp.supernews.com...
  > > I hate to disagree with you Robert, but my Rev A2 manual shows both of
 > those
  > > enabled. On the other hand, I do remember having to disable write cache
  > > pipeline to get a Nvidia TNT AGP card working with the 503+ several
years
  > > ago.
  > >
  > > Also to answer the guys question a little more succinctly: If it ain't
  > > broke don't mess with it and it sounds like your system ain't broke.
  > >
  > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
  > > news:QFXsb.40779$n6.38550@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
   > > > There have been numerous instances of instability and other problems
   > > > experienced by users of the 503+ with both of these settings enabled.
 > You
   > > > can use Google and research old posts in this newsgroup and find
 > examples.
   > > > In fact, in the 503+ manual (I think you can still download a PDF from
  > > FIC)
   > > > the example of the Chipset Features Setup screen shows these settings
   > > > disabled. Google would also be a good place to look for recommended
 > BIOS
   > > > settings (or I could e-mail them to you).
   > > > Robert
   > > > "?uzzled" <not RemoveThis @got.one> wrote in message
   > > > news:bou755$q87$1@titan.btinternet.com...
   > > > >
   > > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
   > > > > news:xZirb.26620$p9.21023@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
   > > > > > Could be several things... in Chipset Setup, do you have Write
Cache
   > > > > > Pipeline and Read Around Write disabled?
   > > > > > Robert
   > > > >
   > > > > I've been running my 503+ with both the settings you mentioned
 > enabled.
   > > > Any
   > > > > reasons why they should be disabled ? Are there any places to read
to
  > > set
   > > > > the optimum BIOS settings ?
   > > > >
   > > > > If it makes any difference, my other specs are:
   > > > >
   > > > > Win98SE / Win2K SP3
   > > > > K6-2 350 @ 450
   > > > > 2 X 256Mb PC133
   > > > > 8Gb IBM
   > > > > 3Gb Seagate
   > > > > 16Mb Voodoo 3 3000 AGP
   > > > >
   > > > > TIA
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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And further, these BIOS settings provided very marginal performance
increases when enabled (at times undetectable increases, hehe). When
in doubt, leave the settings disabled.

--
Best regards,
Kyle
"Robert" <notmy.TakeThisOut@email.address> wrote in message
news:vrgok69bkh1580@corp.supernews.com...
| I checked the pdf versions on FIC's website and indeed they did
change it in
| the A4 rev (the A3 rev was the same as the A2). FIC may have had a
reason
| for changing the default values but my main point (which I obviously
did not
| make very clear) was that unless you have a reason (the OP was
having
| problems but it didn't sound like ?uzzled was) you don't need to
worry about
| these settings. Just because these settings have been known to cause
| problems, that doesn't mean they will all by themselves start
causing
| problems in your system at some point in the future. However, if you
add or
| change a peripheral in the future and have problems, then as you
suggested,
| it would be warranted to search Google for references to that
peripheral. If
| you do find a reference to these settings then a change at that time
would
| be prudent. That was the not so succinct answer.
|
| "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
| news:GRDtb.58959$p9.31848@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| > Maybe the A2 manual shows them enabled, but my rev. A4 manual
(8,9 on
| page
| > 35, shows the Chipset Features Setup screen and they are shown as
| Disabled.
| > They may have changed them after researching the problem.
| >
| > "Robert" <notmy.TakeThisOut@email.address> wrote in message
| > news:vr8mceqpvj6708@corp.supernews.com...
| > > I hate to disagree with you Robert, but my Rev A2 manual shows
both of
| > those
| > > enabled. On the other hand, I do remember having to disable
write cache
| > > pipeline to get a Nvidia TNT AGP card working with the 503+
several
| years
| > > ago.
| > >
| > > Also to answer the guys question a little more succinctly: If
it ain't
| > > broke don't mess with it and it sounds like your system ain't
broke.
| > >
| > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
| > > news:QFXsb.40779$n6.38550@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
| > > > There have been numerous instances of instability and other
problems
| > > > experienced by users of the 503+ with both of these settings
enabled.
| > You
| > > > can use Google and research old posts in this newsgroup and
find
| > examples.
| > > > In fact, in the 503+ manual (I think you can still download a
PDF from
| > > FIC)
| > > > the example of the Chipset Features Setup screen shows these
settings
| > > > disabled. Google would also be a good place to look for
recommended
| > BIOS
| > > > settings (or I could e-mail them to you).
| > > > Robert
| > > > "?uzzled" <not.TakeThisOut@got.one> wrote in message
| > > > news:bou755$q87$1@titan.btinternet.com...
| > > > >
| > > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
| > > > > news:xZirb.26620$p9.21023@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| > > > > > Could be several things... in Chipset Setup, do you have
Write
| Cache
| > > > > > Pipeline and Read Around Write disabled?
| > > > > > Robert
| > > > >
| > > > > I've been running my 503+ with both the settings you
mentioned
| > enabled.
| > > > Any
| > > > > reasons why they should be disabled ? Are there any places
to read
| to
| > > set
| > > > > the optimum BIOS settings ?
| > > > >
| > > > > If it makes any difference, my other specs are:
| > > > >
| > > > > Win98SE / Win2K SP3
| > > > > K6-2 350 @ 450
| > > > > 2 X 256Mb PC133
| > > > > 8Gb IBM
| > > > > 3Gb Seagate
| > > > > 16Mb Voodoo 3 3000 AGP
| > > > >
| > > > > TIA
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
 >> Stay informed about: Problem with VA-503+ Mobo 

"Robert" <notmy.TakeThisOut@email.address> wrote in message
news:vrgok69bkh1580@corp.supernews.com...
 > I checked the pdf versions on FIC's website and indeed they did change it
in
 > the A4 rev (the A3 rev was the same as the A2). FIC may have had a reason
 > for changing the default values but my main point (which I obviously did
not
 > make very clear) was that unless you have a reason (the OP was having
 > problems but it didn't sound like ?uzzled was) you don't need to worry
about
 > these settings. Just because these settings have been known to cause
 > problems, that doesn't mean they will all by themselves start causing
 > problems in your system at some point in the future. However, if you add
or
 > change a peripheral in the future and have problems, then as you
suggested,
 > it would be warranted to search Google for references to that peripheral.
If
 > you do find a reference to these settings then a change at that time would
 > be prudent. That was the not so succinct answer.

Thanks Robert. I disabled them as you suggested earlier and like Kyle's post
above, it didn't really make any difference to my system.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Problem with VA-503+ Mobo 

I started to post a link to a Google search but figured anyone interested
can look it up themselves. There are numerous threads from the past 5 years
on this subject. As we say around here, YMMV.
Robert

"Robert" <notmy.TakeThisOut@email.address> wrote in message
news:vrgok69bkh1580@corp.supernews.com...
 > I checked the pdf versions on FIC's website and indeed they did change it
in
 > the A4 rev (the A3 rev was the same as the A2). FIC may have had a reason
 > for changing the default values but my main point (which I obviously did
not
 > make very clear) was that unless you have a reason (the OP was having
 > problems but it didn't sound like ?uzzled was) you don't need to worry
about
 > these settings. Just because these settings have been known to cause
 > problems, that doesn't mean they will all by themselves start causing
 > problems in your system at some point in the future. However, if you add
or
 > change a peripheral in the future and have problems, then as you
suggested,
 > it would be warranted to search Google for references to that peripheral.
If
 > you do find a reference to these settings then a change at that time would
 > be prudent. That was the not so succinct answer.
 >
 > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
 > news:GRDtb.58959$p9.31848@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
  > > Maybe the A2 manual shows them enabled, but my rev. A4 manual (8,9 on
 > page
  > > 35, shows the Chipset Features Setup screen and they are shown as
 > Disabled.
  > > They may have changed them after researching the problem.
  > >
  > > "Robert" <notmy.TakeThisOut@email.address> wrote in message
  > > news:vr8mceqpvj6708@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > I hate to disagree with you Robert, but my Rev A2 manual shows both of
  > > those
   > > > enabled. On the other hand, I do remember having to disable write
cache
   > > > pipeline to get a Nvidia TNT AGP card working with the 503+ several
 > years
   > > > ago.
   > > >
   > > > Also to answer the guys question a little more succinctly: If it
ain't
   > > > broke don't mess with it and it sounds like your system ain't broke.
   > > >
   > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
   > > > news:QFXsb.40779$n6.38550@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
   > > > > There have been numerous instances of instability and other problems
   > > > > experienced by users of the 503+ with both of these settings
enabled.
  > > You
   > > > > can use Google and research old posts in this newsgroup and find
  > > examples.
   > > > > In fact, in the 503+ manual (I think you can still download a PDF
from
   > > > FIC)
   > > > > the example of the Chipset Features Setup screen shows these
settings
   > > > > disabled. Google would also be a good place to look for recommended
  > > BIOS
   > > > > settings (or I could e-mail them to you).
   > > > > Robert
   > > > > "?uzzled" <not.TakeThisOut@got.one> wrote in message
   > > > > news:bou755$q87$1@titan.btinternet.com...
   > > > > >
   > > > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
   > > > > > news:xZirb.26620$p9.21023@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
   > > > > > > Could be several things... in Chipset Setup, do you have Write
 > Cache
   > > > > > > Pipeline and Read Around Write disabled?
   > > > > > > Robert
   > > > > >
   > > > > > I've been running my 503+ with both the settings you mentioned
  > > enabled.
   > > > > Any
   > > > > > reasons why they should be disabled ? Are there any places to read
 > to
   > > > set
   > > > > > the optimum BIOS settings ?
   > > > > >
   > > > > > If it makes any difference, my other specs are:
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Win98SE / Win2K SP3
   > > > > > K6-2 350 @ 450
   > > > > > 2 X 256Mb PC133
   > > > > > 8Gb IBM
   > > > > > 3Gb Seagate
   > > > > > 16Mb Voodoo 3 3000 AGP
   > > > > >
   > > > > > TIA
   > > > > >
   > > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Problem with VA-503+ Mobo 

Arrrrgh! Yes, I know that these settings have caused problems with some
combinations of hardware! I even stated that I had problems with at least
one of these settings in the past. The problem is that you made it seem
that the guy needed to go and change these settings. He didn't say he was
having problems and if he didn't know enough to search Google in the first
place, I was recommending that he not go messing around in his bios unless
he had a reason to do so. Looks like he went and did it anyway, so I will
stop wasting my time and STFU now.
Robert (but not Robert Akins)

"Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hriub.69924$E9.65437@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
 > I started to post a link to a Google search but figured anyone interested
 > can look it up themselves. There are numerous threads from the past 5
years
 > on this subject. As we say around here, YMMV.
 > Robert
 >
 > "Robert" <notmy RemoveThis @email.address> wrote in message
 > news:vrgok69bkh1580@corp.supernews.com...
  > > I checked the pdf versions on FIC's website and indeed they did change
it
 > in
  > > the A4 rev (the A3 rev was the same as the A2). FIC may have had a
reason
  > > for changing the default values but my main point (which I obviously did
 > not
  > > make very clear) was that unless you have a reason (the OP was having
  > > problems but it didn't sound like ?uzzled was) you don't need to worry
 > about
  > > these settings. Just because these settings have been known to cause
  > > problems, that doesn't mean they will all by themselves start causing
  > > problems in your system at some point in the future. However, if you add
 > or
  > > change a peripheral in the future and have problems, then as you
 > suggested,
  > > it would be warranted to search Google for references to that
peripheral.
 > If
  > > you do find a reference to these settings then a change at that time
would
  > > be prudent. That was the not so succinct answer.
  > >
  > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
  > > news:GRDtb.58959$p9.31848@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
   > > > Maybe the A2 manual shows them enabled, but my rev. A4 manual (8,9
on
  > > page
   > > > 35, shows the Chipset Features Setup screen and they are shown as
  > > Disabled.
   > > > They may have changed them after researching the problem.
   > > >
   > > > "Robert" <notmy RemoveThis @email.address> wrote in message
   > > > news:vr8mceqpvj6708@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > > I hate to disagree with you Robert, but my Rev A2 manual shows both
of
   > > > those
   > > > > enabled. On the other hand, I do remember having to disable write
 > cache
   > > > > pipeline to get a Nvidia TNT AGP card working with the 503+ several
  > > years
   > > > > ago.
   > > > >
   > > > > Also to answer the guys question a little more succinctly: If it
 > ain't
   > > > > broke don't mess with it and it sounds like your system ain't broke.
   > > > >
   > > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
   > > > > news:QFXsb.40779$n6.38550@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
   > > > > > There have been numerous instances of instability and other
problems
   > > > > > experienced by users of the 503+ with both of these settings
 > enabled.
   > > > You
   > > > > > can use Google and research old posts in this newsgroup and find
   > > > examples.
   > > > > > In fact, in the 503+ manual (I think you can still download a PDF
 > from
   > > > > FIC)
   > > > > > the example of the Chipset Features Setup screen shows these
 > settings
   > > > > > disabled. Google would also be a good place to look for
recommended
   > > > BIOS
   > > > > > settings (or I could e-mail them to you).
   > > > > > Robert
   > > > > > "?uzzled" <not RemoveThis @got.one> wrote in message
   > > > > > news:bou755$q87$1@titan.btinternet.com...
   > > > > > >
   > > > > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
   > > > > > > news:xZirb.26620$p9.21023@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
   > > > > > > > Could be several things... in Chipset Setup, do you have Write
  > > Cache
   > > > > > > > Pipeline and Read Around Write disabled?
   > > > > > > > Robert
   > > > > > >
   > > > > > > I've been running my 503+ with both the settings you mentioned
   > > > enabled.
   > > > > > Any
   > > > > > > reasons why they should be disabled ? Are there any places to
read
  > > to
   > > > > set
   > > > > > > the optimum BIOS settings ?
   > > > > > >
   > > > > > > If it makes any difference, my other specs are:
   > > > > > >
   > > > > > > Win98SE / Win2K SP3
   > > > > > > K6-2 350 @ 450
   > > > > > > 2 X 256Mb PC133
   > > > > > > 8Gb IBM
   > > > > > > 3Gb Seagate
   > > > > > > 16Mb Voodoo 3 3000 AGP
   > > > > > >
   > > > > > > TIA
   > > > > > >
   > > > > > >
   > > > > >
   > > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Problem with VA-503+ Mobo 

I sorta thought Robert and his alter ego were having this
conversation, lol.

--
Best regards,
Kyle
"Robert" <notmy.RemoveThis@email.address> wrote in message
news:vrkqrm1dbga9ca@corp.supernews.com...
| Arrrrgh! Yes, I know that these settings have caused problems with
some
| combinations of hardware! I even stated that I had problems with at
least
| one of these settings in the past. The problem is that you made it
seem
| that the guy needed to go and change these settings. He didn't say
he was
| having problems and if he didn't know enough to search Google in the
first
| place, I was recommending that he not go messing around in his bios
unless
| he had a reason to do so. Looks like he went and did it anyway, so I
will
| stop wasting my time and STFU now.
| Robert (but not Robert Akins)
|
| "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
| news:hriub.69924$E9.65437@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
| > I started to post a link to a Google search but figured anyone
interested
| > can look it up themselves. There are numerous threads from the
past 5
| years
| > on this subject. As we say around here, YMMV.
| > Robert
| >
| > "Robert" <notmy.RemoveThis@email.address> wrote in message
| > news:vrgok69bkh1580@corp.supernews.com...
| > > I checked the pdf versions on FIC's website and indeed they did
change
| it
| > in
| > > the A4 rev (the A3 rev was the same as the A2). FIC may have had
a
| reason
| > > for changing the default values but my main point (which I
obviously did
| > not
| > > make very clear) was that unless you have a reason (the OP was
having
| > > problems but it didn't sound like ?uzzled was) you don't need to
worry
| > about
| > > these settings. Just because these settings have been known to
cause
| > > problems, that doesn't mean they will all by themselves start
causing
| > > problems in your system at some point in the future. However, if
you add
| > or
| > > change a peripheral in the future and have problems, then as you
| > suggested,
| > > it would be warranted to search Google for references to that
| peripheral.
| > If
| > > you do find a reference to these settings then a change at that
time
| would
| > > be prudent. That was the not so succinct answer.
| > >
| > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
| > > news:GRDtb.58959$p9.31848@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| > > > Maybe the A2 manual shows them enabled, but my rev. A4 manual
(8,9
| on
| > > page
| > > > 35, shows the Chipset Features Setup screen and they are shown
as
| > > Disabled.
| > > > They may have changed them after researching the problem.
| > > >
| > > > "Robert" <notmy.RemoveThis@email.address> wrote in message
| > > > news:vr8mceqpvj6708@corp.supernews.com...
| > > > > I hate to disagree with you Robert, but my Rev A2 manual
shows both
| of
| > > > those
| > > > > enabled. On the other hand, I do remember having to disable
write
| > cache
| > > > > pipeline to get a Nvidia TNT AGP card working with the 503+
several
| > > years
| > > > > ago.
| > > > >
| > > > > Also to answer the guys question a little more succinctly:
If it
| > ain't
| > > > > broke don't mess with it and it sounds like your system
ain't broke.
| > > > >
| > > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
| > > > > news:QFXsb.40779$n6.38550@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
| > > > > > There have been numerous instances of instability and
other
| problems
| > > > > > experienced by users of the 503+ with both of these
settings
| > enabled.
| > > > You
| > > > > > can use Google and research old posts in this newsgroup
and find
| > > > examples.
| > > > > > In fact, in the 503+ manual (I think you can still
download a PDF
| > from
| > > > > FIC)
| > > > > > the example of the Chipset Features Setup screen shows
these
| > settings
| > > > > > disabled. Google would also be a good place to look for
| recommended
| > > > BIOS
| > > > > > settings (or I could e-mail them to you).
| > > > > > Robert
| > > > > > "?uzzled" <not.RemoveThis@got.one> wrote in message
| > > > > > news:bou755$q87$1@titan.btinternet.com...
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > "Robert Akins" <robert.akins2.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in
message
| > > > > > > news:xZirb.26620$p9.21023@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
| > > > > > > > Could be several things... in Chipset Setup, do you
have Write
| > > Cache
| > > > > > > > Pipeline and Read Around Write disabled?
| > > > > > > > Robert
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > I've been running my 503+ with both the settings you
mentioned
| > > > enabled.
| > > > > > Any
| > > > > > > reasons why they should be disabled ? Are there any
places to
| read
| > > to
| > > > > set
| > > > > > > the optimum BIOS settings ?
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > If it makes any difference, my other specs are:
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > Win98SE / Win2K SP3
| > > > > > > K6-2 350 @ 450
| > > > > > > 2 X 256Mb PC133
| > > > > > > 8Gb IBM
| > > > > > > 3Gb Seagate
| > > > > > > 16Mb Voodoo 3 3000 AGP
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > TIA
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > >
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| > > >
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