Putting to Chip in the MB

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:54:27 +0100, "Not Known"
<k RemoveThis @iuwyeoiqw6kjhdg76t.com> wrote:

 >I know this isn't as simple as pushing the chip into the board and then
 >putting the heatsink and fan on, or is it?

Sometimes it is, but with no details it's certainly a bit
harder.

 >
 >This will be my first time doing this and I'm a bit worried that I might
 >cock it up and end up blowing all the hard earned cash I have spent.

1) Make sure the 'sink is oriented properly, not backwards.

2) Make sure to take off plastic protective layer from
bottom of heatsink, if there is one, but not wax-like
thermal material, leave that on it.

3) TAKE YOUR TIME. Double-check everything and be careful
securing heatsink to motherboard, use the right tool if a
tool is needed.

3) Read the motherboard manual. Double-check jumpers if
any are applicable.


 >Can anyone give me some advise here, or direct me to a good online tutorial?

Take it a step at a time and Google search each step.


 >Also, once it's in and I've attached to HDD, RAM, Power supply etc, should
 >I run some kind on diagnostic utility to check it's all working OK before I
 >go ahead and install Windows?

Yes,
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.memtest86.com" target="_blank">http://www.memtest86.com</a>
Let it run several loops, at least a couple hours.

It's not a system-wide diagnostic, but important
confirmation of memory integrity. Installing the OS itself
is a good next test.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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You sound rather new and unsure about all this. Are you sure you wouldn't
rather be safe and have it installed professionally?

--
DaveW



"Not Known" <k.TakeThisOut@iuwyeoiqw6kjhdg76t.com> wrote in message
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 >I know this isn't as simple as pushing the chip into the board and then
 >putting the heatsink and fan on, or is it?
 >
 > This will be my first time doing this and I'm a bit worried that I might
 > cock it up and end up blowing all the hard earned cash I have spent.
 >
 > Can anyone give me some advise here, or direct me to a good online
 > tutorial?
 >
 >
 > Also, once it's in and I've attached to HDD, RAM, Power supply etc,
 > should I run some kind on diagnostic utility to check it's all working OK
 > before I go ahead and install Windows?
 >
 > If so what diag utility should I run.
 >
 >
 > Thanks again
 >
 > Paul
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"kony" <spam.RemoveThis@spam.com> wrote in message
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 > On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:54:27 +0100, "Not Known"
 > <k.RemoveThis@iuwyeoiqw6kjhdg76t.com> wrote:
 >
  > >I know this isn't as simple as pushing the chip into the board and then
  > >putting the heatsink and fan on, or is it?
 >
 > Sometimes it is, but with no details it's certainly a bit
 > harder.
 >
  > >
  > >This will be my first time doing this and I'm a bit worried that I might
  > >cock it up and end up blowing all the hard earned cash I have spent.
 >
 > 1) Make sure the 'sink is oriented properly, not backwards.
 >
 > 2) Make sure to take off plastic protective layer from
 > bottom of heatsink, if there is one, but not wax-like
 > thermal material, leave that on it.
 >
 > 3) TAKE YOUR TIME. Double-check everything and be careful
 > securing heatsink to motherboard, use the right tool if a
 > tool is needed.
 >

Don't put all your wait on a screwdriver to lever the HSF retention clip
into place - one slip and you destroy your motherboard...

Don't apply pressure to the HSF unless it's sitting sqaurely on the CPU - i
found it easy to crush the sides of an AMD CPU by bodging the HSF into
place!!

Martin.


 > 3) Read the motherboard manual. Double-check jumpers if
 > any are applicable.
 >
 >
  > >Can anyone give me some advise here, or direct me to a good online
tutorial?
 >
 > Take it a step at a time and Google search each step.
 >
 >
  > >Also, once it's in and I've attached to HDD, RAM, Power supply etc,
should
  > >I run some kind on diagnostic utility to check it's all working OK before
I
  > >go ahead and install Windows?
 >
 > Yes,
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.memtest86.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.memtest86.com</font</a>>
 > Let it run several loops, at least a couple hours.
 >
 > It's not a system-wide diagnostic, but important
 > confirmation of memory integrity. Installing the OS itself
 > is a good next test.
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 00:19:30 +0100, "Martin"
<zedolf.DeleteThis@o2.co.uk> wrote:


 >
 >Don't put all your wait on a screwdriver to lever the HSF retention clip
 >into place - one slip and you destroy your motherboard...
 >
 >Don't apply pressure to the HSF unless it's sitting sqaurely on the CPU - i
 >found it easy to crush the sides of an AMD CPU by bodging the HSF into
 >place!!
 >


Good points, and it is along with the idea that nobody is
FORCED to use any particular heatsink... some 'sinks are far
easier than others, and some even potentially defective.
Return a heatsink if it just isn't working out, but do
recognize that it's not necessarily going to take only a
light touch to get the retention clip down.

In difficult situations it's better to remove motherboard
from case, and put strips of plastic, foam, or at least
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Thanks for the tips guys,

I think I'll thak it down the local shop and watch the man that knows do it
for the first time.

Cheers


"DaveW" <none.TakeThisOut@zero.org> wrote in message
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 > You sound rather new and unsure about all this. Are you sure you wouldn't
 > rather be safe and have it installed professionally?
 >
 > --
 > DaveW
 >
 >
 >
 > "Not Known" <k.TakeThisOut@iuwyeoiqw6kjhdg76t.com> wrote in message
 > news:4162fb56$0$22747$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
  >>I know this isn't as simple as pushing the chip into the board and then
  >>putting the heatsink and fan on, or is it?
  >>
  >> This will be my first time doing this and I'm a bit worried that I might
  >> cock it up and end up blowing all the hard earned cash I have spent.
  >>
  >> Can anyone give me some advise here, or direct me to a good online
  >> tutorial?
  >>
  >>
  >> Also, once it's in and I've attached to HDD, RAM, Power supply etc,
  >> should I run some kind on diagnostic utility to check it's all working OK
  >> before I go ahead and install Windows?
  >>
  >> If so what diag utility should I run.
  >>
  >>
  >> Thanks again
  >>
  >> Paul
  >>
 >
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Actually, it was the "professional" label that got me worried and made me
learn how to put a computer together. But that was long ago.

It's good to watch and learn for the first time, but for the second time,
when you took all the advice of this thread, it's always better to KNOW that
you did it from scratch. Cuz then if anything goes wrong after the
installation, you know it's not the jumpers at least cuz you checked. You
know it's not the ram that didn't sit right, and you know it's not because
the back of the dvd drive was touching one of those coils on the mobo.

I have this need to know about hardware during the 486 days, and learned it
the hard way on the p2, took me 6 hours to diagnose everything top to bottom
when the p2 shows a random reboot thing. And as it turns out, it was
because the back of the dvd drive was touching this little coil on the mobo.
Luckily it didn't short circuit anything. The p2 was installed
"professionally".

It's great that the p3 flip chip days are over Cuz that retail sink
retention thing is a bitch to sit hehe.


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 > Thanks for the tips guys,
 >
 > I think I'll thak it down the local shop and watch the man that knows do
it
 > for the first time.
 >
 > Cheers<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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In article <4162fb56$0$22747$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>,
k.RemoveThis@iuwyeoiqw6kjhdg76t.com says...
 > I know this isn't as simple as pushing the chip into the board and then
 > putting the heatsink and fan on, or is it?
 >
 > This will be my first time doing this and I'm a bit worried that I might
 > cock it up and end up blowing all the hard earned cash I have spent.
 >
 > Can anyone give me some advise here, or direct me to a good online tutorial?
 >
 >
 > Also, once it's in and I've attached to HDD, RAM, Power supply etc, should
 > I run some kind on diagnostic utility to check it's all working OK before I
 > go ahead and install Windows?
 >
 > If so what diag utility should I run.
 >
 >
 > Thanks again
 >
 > Paul
 >
 >
 >
Have a look here,

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_" target="_blank">http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_</a>
4348%5E6678,00.html

AMD have produced a nice video of how to do it along with a nice
printable PDF....enjoy!
Regards
Martin<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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