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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:03 pm
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"Grinder" <grinder.RemoveThis@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
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> uri wrote:
> > How much faster will quantum computers be than classical computers?
>
> Exactly 42x.



when you throw *any* type of computer out the window

they all fall at 32/ft/sec^2

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:03 pm
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Sam Wormley wrote:
> Grinder wrote:
>> uri wrote:
>>> How much faster will quantum computers be than classical computers?
>>
>> Exactly 42x.
>
>
> That figure is "mostly harmless" but it might be a tiny bit
> faster than that.

A very deep thought.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:30 pm
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jimp.DeleteThis@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> uri <danny99.DeleteThis@bezeqint.net> wrote:
>> John McGaw <nob....DeleteThis@nowh.ere> wrote:
>
>>> Or look at the March 2008 issue of Scientific American in which
>>> an article debunks some of the wilder claims made for quantum
>>> computers.
>>
>> The problem is that the scientific american article is not free.
>
> Neither are most things in life. Isn't that a bitch?

The essence of a stupid remark, especially on an international news
group. Another problem for Uri is likely to be that Scientific
American is just not available in his part of the world.

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:04 am
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In sci.physics CBFalconer <cbfalconer RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> jimp RemoveThis @specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > uri <danny99 RemoveThis @bezeqint.net> wrote:
> >> John McGaw <nob... RemoveThis @nowh.ere> wrote:
> >
> >>> Or look at the March 2008 issue of Scientific American in which
> >>> an article debunks some of the wilder claims made for quantum
> >>> computers.
> >>
> >> The problem is that the scientific american article is not free.
> >
> > Neither are most things in life. Isn't that a bitch?

> The essence of a stupid remark, especially on an international news
> group. Another problem for Uri is likely to be that Scientific
> American is just not available in his part of the world.

His quite specific bitch was that Scientific American is not free, NOT
that it wasn't available.

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:46 am
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So what are the limits of effective computation in nature? Can we
reach computing speed billions and trillions of times faster than
current computers?
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:04 pm
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"John McGaw" <nobody.DeleteThis@nowh.ere> wrote in message
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> Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Grinder wrote:
>>> uri wrote:
>>>> How much faster will quantum computers be than classical computers?
>>>
>>> Exactly 42x.
>>
>>
>> That figure is "mostly harmless" but it might be a tiny bit
>> faster than that.
>
> A very deep thought.

What was the question?
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:04 pm
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GT wrote:
> "John McGaw" <nobody.DeleteThis@nowh.ere> wrote in message
> news:G4lwj.101839$N67.47965@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> Grinder wrote:
>>>> uri wrote:
>>>>> How much faster will quantum computers be than classical computers?
>>>> Exactly 42x.
>>>
>>> That figure is "mostly harmless" but it might be a tiny bit
>>> faster than that.
>> A very deep thought.
>
> What was the question?
>
>

What is the meaning of....

Oh. Never mind. I think we've been through all of this before...

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Sam Wormley

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:04 pm
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John McGaw wrote:
> GT wrote:
>> "John McGaw" <nobody.RemoveThis@nowh.ere> wrote in message
>> news:G4lwj.101839$N67.47965@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> Grinder wrote:
>>>>> uri wrote:
>>>>>> How much faster will quantum computers be than classical computers?
>>>>> Exactly 42x.
>>>>
>>>> That figure is "mostly harmless" but it might be a tiny bit
>>>> faster than that.
>>> A very deep thought.
>>
>> What was the question?
>>
>
> What is the meaning of....
>
> Oh. Never mind. I think we've been through all of this before...
>

6 x 7 times before?
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:04 pm
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In sci.physics uri <danny99 RemoveThis @bezeqint.net> wrote:
> So what are the limits of effective computation in nature? Can we
> reach computing speed billions and trillions of times faster than
> current computers?

The speed of light and propagation delay.

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:24 pm
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Sam Wormley wrote:
> John McGaw wrote:
>> GT wrote:
>>> "John McGaw" <nobody.TakeThisOut@nowh.ere> wrote in message
>>> news:G4lwj.101839$N67.47965@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>> Grinder wrote:
>>>>>> uri wrote:
>>>>>>> How much faster will quantum computers be than classical computers?
>>>>>> Exactly 42x.
>>>>>
>>>>> That figure is "mostly harmless" but it might be a tiny bit
>>>>> faster than that.
>>>> A very deep thought.
>>>
>>> What was the question?
>>>
>>
>> What is the meaning of....
>>
>> Oh. Never mind. I think we've been through all of this before...
>>
>
> 6 x 7 times before?

It's all about the mice, you see.

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[Knoxville, TN, USA]
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:46 pm
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jimp.TakeThisOut@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> CBFalconer <cbfalconer.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> jimp.TakeThisOut@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> uri <danny99.TakeThisOut@bezeqint.net> wrote:
>>>> John McGaw <nob....TakeThisOut@nowh.ere> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Or look at the March 2008 issue of Scientific American in which
>>>>> an article debunks some of the wilder claims made for quantum
>>>>> computers.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that the scientific american article is not free.
>>>
>>> Neither are most things in life. Isn't that a bitch?
>
>> The essence of a stupid remark, especially on an international news
>> group. Another problem for Uri is likely to be that Scientific
>> American is just not available in his part of the world.
>
> His quite specific bitch was that Scientific American is not free,
> NOT that it wasn't available.

He is obviously a neophyte, and may be in some backwoods location
in Pakistan (or wherever), for all you know. His probable first
reaction to the McGaw response was to access the Scientific
American website, and find that article unavailable. He also has
possible problems with the English language. And obviously with
Usenet conventions.

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:48 pm
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uri wrote:
>
> So what are the limits of effective computation in nature? Can we
> reach computing speed billions and trillions of times faster than
> current computers?

If you want to post a followup via groups.google.com, ensure you
quote enough for the article to make sense. Google is only an
interface to Usenet; it's not Usenet itself. Don't assume your
readers can, or ever will, see any previous articles.

More details at: <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>

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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:45 pm
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On Feb 24, 6:57 am, uri <dann... RemoveThis @bezeqint.net> wrote:
> How much faster will quantum computers be than classical computers?

Actually none. Since the reason internet, and CDs, and DVDs, and
lasers, and fiber optics, and satelittes, and robots, and
holograms,
were even developed for computers is because it's plainly obvious
that the only thing the idiot wanks in QM even know about computer
speed is bus speed.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:04 pm
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John McGaw wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>> John McGaw wrote:
>>> GT wrote:
>>>> "John McGaw" <nobody DeleteThis @nowh.ere> wrote in message
>>>> news:G4lwj.101839$N67.47965@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>>> Grinder wrote:
>>>>>>> uri wrote:
>>>>>>>> How much faster will quantum computers be than classical computers?
>>>>>>> Exactly 42x.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That figure is "mostly harmless" but it might be a tiny bit
>>>>>> faster than that.
>>>>> A very deep thought.
>>>>
>>>> What was the question?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is the meaning of....
>>>
>>> Oh. Never mind. I think we've been through all of this before...
>>>
>>
>> 6 x 7 times before?
>
> It's all about the mice, you see.
>

Building a quantum computer is like building a hyper-space bypass
but the plans are hard to find!
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:04 pm
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>>>>>>>>> How much faster will quantum computers be than classical
>>>>>>>>> computers?
>>>>>>>> Exactly 42x.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That figure is "mostly harmless" but it might be a tiny bit
>>>>>>> faster than that.
>>>>>> A very deep thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> What was the question?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the meaning of....
>>>>
>>>> Oh. Never mind. I think we've been through all of this before...
>>>>
>>>
>>> 6 x 7 times before?
>>
>> It's all about the mice, you see.
>>
>
> Building a quantum computer is like building a hyper-space bypass
> but the plans are hard to find!

The plans have been available for public viewing for months. just down at
the nearest star, Alpha Centuri, a mere 4 light years away.
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