Best (Quietest) CPU Cooler?

Get a Zalman znps 7000 ALCU. Very quiet & v. good cooling (better than the
stock unit).

The ALCU version is within the weight limits set by Intel. The pure copper
version is well over the limit.

Search this newsgroup on Zalman and you will find many comments about the
Zalman along with notes on installation.

There are many other cooling solutions, suffice it to say there are
advantages and disadvantages to each. The Zalman still rates very highly in
the market due to its combination of quietness, price, and effectiveness.

- Tim





"Steve" <steve_r34 RemoveThis @NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Hello everyone,
 >
 > I just installed a retail boxed Intel 3.2 cpu onto a P4C800-E board within
a
 > Sonata "Quiet Case" and the I cannot hear my think over the noise of the
cpu
 > fan. Not only is it loud, but it is at a very annoying noise frequency.
 >
 > Can you folks recommend a good and quiet cpu fan into this board?
 >
 > Thanks
 >
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Thanks Tim,

I really appreciate the advice. I'll order one straight away on your
recommendation. I guess you feel that the weight of the copper unit would be
an issue.

Thanks again for your kind help.

Steve



"Tim" <Tim RemoveThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:c3d0hs$cjk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
 > Get a Zalman znps 7000 ALCU. Very quiet & v. good cooling (better than the
 > stock unit).
 >
 > The ALCU version is within the weight limits set by Intel. The pure copper
 > version is well over the limit.
 >
 > Search this newsgroup on Zalman and you will find many comments about the
 > Zalman along with notes on installation.
 >
 > There are many other cooling solutions, suffice it to say there are
 > advantages and disadvantages to each. The Zalman still rates very highly
in
 > the market due to its combination of quietness, price, and effectiveness.
 >
 > - Tim
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > "Steve" <steve_r34 RemoveThis @NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:105jvk2jcfu2ta3@corp.supernews.com...
  > > Hello everyone,
  > >
  > > I just installed a retail boxed Intel 3.2 cpu onto a P4C800-E board
within
 > a
  > > Sonata "Quiet Case" and the I cannot hear my think over the noise of the
 > cpu
  > > fan. Not only is it loud, but it is at a very annoying noise frequency.
  > >
  > > Can you folks recommend a good and quiet cpu fan into this board?
  > >
  > > Thanks
  > >
  > >
 >
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Hello everyone,
I just installed a retail boxed Intel 3.2 cpu onto a P4C800-E board
within a
Sonata "Quiet Case" and the I cannot hear my think over the noise of
the cpu
fan. Not only is it loud, but it is at a very annoying noise
frequency.
Can you folks recommend a good and quiet cpu fan into this board?
Thanks

Consider this:
I am using the Coolermaster Aero 4 ISB-V73 CPU cooler. (Cost $28.00
www.zipzoomfly.com - 02-28-04 - no shipping no tax) It is a
"squirrelcage" type fan with a copper heatsink. The squirrelcage type
is recommended because it does not have a blind spot in the center of
the fan where a considerable amount of heat needs to be dissapated.
This fan comes with a manual overide potentiometer that you can adjust
the speed of the CPU fan with. I never installed the boxed
heatsink/fan with this P4 3.oGz chip due to warnings on the newegg.com
forum website discussing how thie MB (ASUS P4C800-E- Deluxe) locked up
using the stock boxed P4 heatsink because it clamped too tight to the
MB. This coolermaster fan seems to clamp gently and securely to the
CPU chip. Also, it is quieter that the 80 MM case fan on the back of
my case, which is fairly quiet also (Coolermaster Praetorian
PAC-T01-E1).
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I've got the copper unit. It is nearly twice the weight of the other one.
It works but I think you'll want to be very, very careful with the system if
its laying flat but in a vertical position I don't think the weight is as
much an issue. Might be wrong.

And yes, they are HUGE. It fits in my case but I've got a server case
(Antec PLUS1080AMG). Might want to check your clearances first.


"Steve" <steve_r34.DeleteThis@NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Thanks Tim,
 >
 > I really appreciate the advice. I'll order one straight away on your
 > recommendation. I guess you feel that the weight of the copper unit would
be
 > an issue.
 >
 > Thanks again for your kind help.
 >
 > Steve
 >
 >
 >
 > "Tim" <Tim.DeleteThis@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:c3d0hs$cjk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
  > > Get a Zalman znps 7000 ALCU. Very quiet & v. good cooling (better than
the
  > > stock unit).
  > >
  > > The ALCU version is within the weight limits set by Intel. The pure
copper
  > > version is well over the limit.
  > >
  > > Search this newsgroup on Zalman and you will find many comments about
the
  > > Zalman along with notes on installation.
  > >
  > > There are many other cooling solutions, suffice it to say there are
  > > advantages and disadvantages to each. The Zalman still rates very highly
 > in
  > > the market due to its combination of quietness, price, and
effectiveness.
  > >
  > > - Tim
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > "Steve" <steve_r34.DeleteThis@NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:105jvk2jcfu2ta3@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > Hello everyone,
   > > >
   > > > I just installed a retail boxed Intel 3.2 cpu onto a P4C800-E board
 > within
  > > a
   > > > Sonata "Quiet Case" and the I cannot hear my think over the noise of
the
  > > cpu
   > > > fan. Not only is it loud, but it is at a very annoying noise
frequency.
   > > >
   > > > Can you folks recommend a good and quiet cpu fan into this board?
   > > >
   > > > Thanks
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
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Yes - the copper units are IMHO for enthusiasts.

Check first at the Zalman site and read about about the mounting issues:
these units are bigger than normal and if you have a small case they may not
fit. They do not fit all motherboards, so search this news group on Zalman
to find someone that has confirmed that they fit your Mobo - this is most
important.

Also, go to the arctic silver web site and read up about correct mounting of
heatsinks and use of thermal paste - too often people don't get it right and
end up with hot CPU's. Install either MBM5 or the asus utility to monitor
your temps to confirm the HSF is correctly mounted.

- Tim


"Steve" <steve_r34 DeleteThis @NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Thanks Tim,
 >
 > I really appreciate the advice. I'll order one straight away on your
 > recommendation. I guess you feel that the weight of the copper unit would
be
 > an issue.
 >
 > Thanks again for your kind help.
 >
 > Steve
 >
 >
 >
 > "Tim" <Tim DeleteThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:c3d0hs$cjk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
  > > Get a Zalman znps 7000 ALCU. Very quiet & v. good cooling (better than
the
  > > stock unit).
  > >
  > > The ALCU version is within the weight limits set by Intel. The pure
copper
  > > version is well over the limit.
  > >
  > > Search this newsgroup on Zalman and you will find many comments about
the
  > > Zalman along with notes on installation.
  > >
  > > There are many other cooling solutions, suffice it to say there are
  > > advantages and disadvantages to each. The Zalman still rates very highly
 > in
  > > the market due to its combination of quietness, price, and
effectiveness.
  > >
  > > - Tim
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > "Steve" <steve_r34 DeleteThis @NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:105jvk2jcfu2ta3@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > Hello everyone,
   > > >
   > > > I just installed a retail boxed Intel 3.2 cpu onto a P4C800-E board
 > within
  > > a
   > > > Sonata "Quiet Case" and the I cannot hear my think over the noise of
the
  > > cpu
   > > > fan. Not only is it loud, but it is at a very annoying noise
frequency.
   > > >
   > > > Can you folks recommend a good and quiet cpu fan into this board?
   > > >
   > > > Thanks
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
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That's a great idea too. I hadn't considered that.

Thanks Al




"Anon" <anon.TakeThisOut@anon.com> wrote in message
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 > Have you tried slowing the fan using Asus Q-Fan? With Q-Fan enabled in the
 > bios, you can select several different CPU fan speeds. I run Intel 3.2
with
 > Intel fan/heatsink at 12/16 (3/4 speed) with no heat problems. My CPU is
 > overclocked by 5%, and temp maximum with 100% load is 52C.
 >
 > At the slower speed, the fan noise is less and the frequency is lower
making
 > the noise more tolerable.
 >
 > Al
 >
 > "Steve" <steve_r34.TakeThisOut@NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:105jvk2jcfu2ta3@corp.supernews.com...
  > > Hello everyone,
  > >
  > > I just installed a retail boxed Intel 3.2 cpu onto a P4C800-E board
within
 > a
  > > Sonata "Quiet Case" and the I cannot hear my think over the noise of the
 > cpu
  > > fan. Not only is it loud, but it is at a very annoying noise frequency.
  > >
  > > Can you folks recommend a good and quiet cpu fan into this board?
  > >
  > > Thanks
  > >
  > >
 >
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"Data Wing" <bozo_ramo.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1c7b6b01.0403181912.2601ce9d@posting.google.com...
 > I am using the Coolermaster Aero 4 ISB-V73 CPU cooler. (Cost $28.00
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.zipzoomfly.com" target="_blank">www.zipzoomfly.com</a> - 02-28-04 - no shipping no tax) It is a
 > "squirrelcage" type fan with a copper heatsink. I never installed the
boxed
 > heatsink/fan with this P4 3.oGz chip due to warnings on the newegg.com
 > forum website discussing how thie MB (ASUS P4C800-E- Deluxe) locked up
 > using the stock boxed P4 heatsink because it clamped too tight to the
 > MB. This coolermaster fan seems to clamp gently and securely to the
 > CPU chip. Also, it is quieter that the 80 MM case fan on the back of
 > my case, which is fairly quiet also (Coolermaster Praetorian
 > PAC-T01-E1).

I am planning to get the same case and board. I would like to get the same
HSF, Aero 4, but Coolermaster's site doesn't show whether any of their P4
478 HSFs have a thermal pad integrated. Reading reviews, I see that the Aero
4 *Lite* has a pad; I could get that, if need be.
But, I wonder if the Aero 4, (copper HS), that you mentioned, has a thermal
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My vote is for Zalman 7000a AlCu . Even at it's 1450 rpm setting (Silent
mode) it keeps my 2.8GHz /800Mhz P4 under 109 degrees, even while playing
BF:Vientam / Far Cry.
My idle temp is 89/90 - constant.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Cooling/Zalman-CNPS7000A-AlCu-Review/" target="_blank">http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Cooling/Zalman-CNPS7000A-AlCu-Review/</a>

{My case is an Apex TM-163 which has an air guide that fits perfectly right
over the cpu socket, cool air directly into the center of this heatsink
design}


"QZ" <nothing> wrote in message news:10e15h25b8cbh4e@corp.supernews.com...
 > "Data Wing" <bozo_ramo RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:1c7b6b01.0403181912.2601ce9d@posting.google.com...
  > > I am using the Coolermaster Aero 4 ISB-V73 CPU cooler. (Cost $28.00
  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.zipzoomfly.com" target="_blank">www.zipzoomfly.com</a> - 02-28-04 - no shipping no tax) It is a
  > > "squirrelcage" type fan with a copper heatsink. I never installed the
 > boxed
  > > heatsink/fan with this P4 3.oGz chip due to warnings on the newegg.com
  > > forum website discussing how thie MB (ASUS P4C800-E- Deluxe) locked up
  > > using the stock boxed P4 heatsink because it clamped too tight to the
  > > MB. This coolermaster fan seems to clamp gently and securely to the
  > > CPU chip. Also, it is quieter that the 80 MM case fan on the back of
  > > my case, which is fairly quiet also (Coolermaster Praetorian
  > > PAC-T01-E1).
 >
 > I am planning to get the same case and board. I would like to get the same
 > HSF, Aero 4, but Coolermaster's site doesn't show whether any of their P4
 > 478 HSFs have a thermal pad integrated. Reading reviews, I see that the
Aero
 > 4 *Lite* has a pad; I could get that, if need be.
 > But, I wonder if the Aero 4, (copper HS), that you mentioned, has a
thermal
 > pad integrated?
 >
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In article <10e15h25b8cbh4e.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>, "QZ" <nothing> wrote:

 > "Data Wing" <bozo_ramo.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:1c7b6b01.0403181912.2601ce9d@posting.google.com...
  > > I am using the Coolermaster Aero 4 ISB-V73 CPU cooler. (Cost $28.00
  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.zipzoomfly.com" target="_blank">www.zipzoomfly.com</a> - 02-28-04 - no shipping no tax) It is a
  > > "squirrelcage" type fan with a copper heatsink. I never installed the
 > boxed
  > > heatsink/fan with this P4 3.oGz chip due to warnings on the newegg.com
  > > forum website discussing how thie MB (ASUS P4C800-E- Deluxe) locked up
  > > using the stock boxed P4 heatsink because it clamped too tight to the
  > > MB. This coolermaster fan seems to clamp gently and securely to the
  > > CPU chip. Also, it is quieter that the 80 MM case fan on the back of
  > > my case, which is fairly quiet also (Coolermaster Praetorian
  > > PAC-T01-E1).
 >
 > I am planning to get the same case and board. I would like to get the same
 > HSF, Aero 4, but Coolermaster's site doesn't show whether any of their P4
 > 478 HSFs have a thermal pad integrated. Reading reviews, I see that the Aero
 > 4 *Lite* has a pad; I could get that, if need be.
 > But, I wonder if the Aero 4, (copper HS), that you mentioned, has a thermal
 > pad integrated?

You could always buy your own. This Chomerics product is associated
with lower power dissipation HSF, so you may have to visit the
Chomerics web site, to find out whether they have something which is
a better fit for your new HSF. It would have helped if they had listed
the size of the pads.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ajigo-store.com/therin.html" target="_blank">http://www.ajigo-store.com/therin.html</a>

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://shop.store.yahoo.com/tai-sol/therinmat.html" target="_blank">http://shop.store.yahoo.com/tai-sol/therinmat.html</a>

Some info on the Chomerics products are here.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.chomerics.com/products/documents/thermcat/THERMALMP.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.chomerics.com/products/documents/thermcat/THERMALMP.pdf</a>

When it is warm, it sounds like the description of chewing gum
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.physics.purdue.edu/cmsfpix/mechanics/adhesive/chomerics_thermal_interface.html" target="_blank">http://www.physics.purdue.edu/cmsfpix/mechanics/adhesive/chomerics_the...l_inter</a>

This review includes the Shin Etsu grease, and you could pick up
some of each for some experiments.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.insideproject.com/showreview.cfm?reviewid=81" target="_blank">http://www.insideproject.com/showreview.cfm?reviewid=81</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ocshoot.no/paste.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ocshoot.no/paste.htm</a>

To see how poorly thermal pads perform, check this article
(a biased review, obviously).

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.arcticsilver.com/thermal_interface_basics.htm" target="_blank">http://www.arcticsilver.com/thermal_interface_basics.htm</a>

HTH,
Paul<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Paul" <nospam RemoveThis @needed.com> wrote in message
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 > You could always buy your own. This Chomerics product is associated
 > with lower power dissipation HSF, so you may have to visit the
 > Chomerics web site, to find out whether they have something which is
 > a better fit for your new HSF. It would have helped if they had listed
 > the size of the pads.

I know that if it doesn't have a thermal pad integrated it needs thermal
compound. And Coolermaster includes one or the other. They should mention
which one they include with each HSF. I may just go for one with a pad for
an easier install, as I will run the P4 Nwd. at regular clock speed. Of
course, if I get one w/o a pad, I will consider getting a better compound.
Thanks for the info.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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