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www.ttdown.com

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:17 am
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Im not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I think you all
know alot about this stuff so hoepfully someone can help me out..

My computer Processing time is really starting to slow down. I have an
Intel celeron computer 2.4Ghz. 80Gb HD, and up until yesterday 256Mb
of RAM. My HD was nearly full, so I cleaned up stuff I didnt need, and
dot it down to about 60% full.. ( I have 35gb if free space on my HD
now).. that didnt seem to speed anything up. So I went out today and
bought a stick of RAM, another 512 Mb.. for a total now of 768Mb of
RAM.. and still running/processing stuff at the same speed as it was
before.

It is just opening things not terribly slow, but fairly slow for I
think how fast it SHOULD be going..

I have Defragged the system, and used the disk clean up function.. and
still nothing.. Im at a loss here, and was hoping I could get some
suggestions of how to maybe speed up my computer..

Thanks

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Fidelis K

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:17 am
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So, you have a stick of 256MB ram and another stick of 512MB ram? That's
weird. You need to have two sticks of the same amount.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:17 am
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"www.ttdown.com" <forteagentdl.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Im not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I think you all
> know alot about this stuff so hoepfully someone can help me out..
>
> My computer Processing time is really starting to slow down. I have an
> Intel celeron computer 2.4Ghz. 80Gb HD, and up until yesterday 256Mb
> of RAM. My HD was nearly full, so I cleaned up stuff I didnt need, and
> dot it down to about 60% full.. ( I have 35gb if free space on my HD
> now).. that didnt seem to speed anything up. So I went out today and
> bought a stick of RAM, another 512 Mb.. for a total now of 768Mb of
> RAM.. and still running/processing stuff at the same speed as it was
> before.
>
> It is just opening things not terribly slow, but fairly slow for I
> think how fast it SHOULD be going..
>
> I have Defragged the system, and used the disk clean up function.. and
> still nothing.. Im at a loss here, and was hoping I could get some
> suggestions of how to maybe speed up my computer..
>
> Thanks

Sounds like you've done all the right things. You may also check which
applications are running at startup. If you've already eliminated all
unnecessary startup apps, then you'll probably want to reinstall Windows.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:17 am
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"Fidelis K" <sdfs DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> So, you have a stick of 256MB ram and another stick of 512MB ram? That's
> weird. You need to have two sticks of the same amount.

As far as I know, that's only true if you're using dual channel.
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Barry Watzman

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:05 am
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***IF*** your motherboard & chipset support dual channel memory (big
if), then you made a mistake by configuring the system with any memory
configuration other than in matched pairs of modules properly installed
for dual-channel memory operation.

Also, a 2.4GHz Celeron is not a fast CPU.

You need to review the tasks loading at startup. Use MSCONFIG (start /
run / msconfig), then look at the statup tab. Also, start / run /
accessories / system tools / system information, then software
environment / startup programs.


www.ttdown.com wrote:
> Im not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I think you all
> know alot about this stuff so hoepfully someone can help me out..
>
> My computer Processing time is really starting to slow down. I have an
> Intel celeron computer 2.4Ghz. 80Gb HD, and up until yesterday 256Mb
> of RAM. My HD was nearly full, so I cleaned up stuff I didnt need, and
> dot it down to about 60% full.. ( I have 35gb if free space on my HD
> now).. that didnt seem to speed anything up. So I went out today and
> bought a stick of RAM, another 512 Mb.. for a total now of 768Mb of
> RAM.. and still running/processing stuff at the same speed as it was
> before.
>
> It is just opening things not terribly slow, but fairly slow for I
> think how fast it SHOULD be going..
>
> I have Defragged the system, and used the disk clean up function.. and
> still nothing.. Im at a loss here, and was hoping I could get some
> suggestions of how to maybe speed up my computer..
>
> Thanks
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:45 pm
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Barry Watzman wrote:
> ***IF*** your motherboard & chipset support dual channel memory (big
> if), then you made a mistake by configuring the system with any memory
> configuration other than in matched pairs of modules properly installed
> for dual-channel memory operation.
>
> Also, a 2.4GHz Celeron is not a fast CPU.
>
> You need to review the tasks loading at startup. Use MSCONFIG (start /
> run / msconfig), then look at the statup tab. Also, start / run /
> accessories / system tools / system information, then software
> environment / startup programs.

You should also perhaps consider spyware and malware. Try downloading
and running Lavasofts Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:57 pm
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I run adaware, and registry mechanic on a regluar basis..

Its starting to sound like I just do not have a fast computer Smile But
the thing I dont get is that high speed internet, why pages load all
choppy still.. and they didnt use to.. which is why I thought I could
improve my speed with more ram maybe.

As for the dual channel thing, I have no idea what that means really
Smile My chipset, is from VIA, and I have 2 sockets for Ram.. thats about
all I know Smile

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:45:28 +0100, Shawk <shawk DeleteThis @clara.net.3guesses>
wrote:

>Barry Watzman wrote:
>> ***IF*** your motherboard & chipset support dual channel memory (big
>> if), then you made a mistake by configuring the system with any memory
>> configuration other than in matched pairs of modules properly installed
>> for dual-channel memory operation.
>>
>> Also, a 2.4GHz Celeron is not a fast CPU.
>>
>> You need to review the tasks loading at startup. Use MSCONFIG (start /
>> run / msconfig), then look at the statup tab. Also, start / run /
>> accessories / system tools / system information, then software
>> environment / startup programs.
>
>You should also perhaps consider spyware and malware. Try downloading
>and running Lavasofts Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:57 pm
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Re: "Its starting to sound like I just do not have a fast computer"

A 2.4GHz Celeron? No question about that. By modern standards, it's an
antique.

Some chipsets support using pairs of ARCHITECTURALLY IDENTICAL memory
modules to DOUBLE the memory access speed. It's called dual channel
operation. You have to know the exact chipset and it's capabilities to
determine if it's available or not. The chips that do support it will
still work without a proper memory configuration, but if you do that
(and installing two different size memory modules, or even two same size
modules that are not architecturally identical, or even two identical
modules but in the wrong sockets) you cut the memory speed in half.
This is a fairly new development (about the past 2 years), and it's more
likely than not that your chipset / motherboard doesn't support it anyway.



www.ttdown.com wrote:

> I run adaware, and registry mechanic on a regluar basis..
>
> Its starting to sound like I just do not have a fast computer Smile But
> the thing I dont get is that high speed internet, why pages load all
> choppy still.. and they didnt use to.. which is why I thought I could
> improve my speed with more ram maybe.
>
> As for the dual channel thing, I have no idea what that means really
> Smile My chipset, is from VIA, and I have 2 sockets for Ram.. thats about
> all I know Smile
>
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:45:28 +0100, Shawk <shawk.TakeThisOut@clara.net.3guesses>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Barry Watzman wrote:
>>
>>>***IF*** your motherboard & chipset support dual channel memory (big
>>>if), then you made a mistake by configuring the system with any memory
>>>configuration other than in matched pairs of modules properly installed
>>>for dual-channel memory operation.
>>>
>>>Also, a 2.4GHz Celeron is not a fast CPU.
>>>
>>>You need to review the tasks loading at startup. Use MSCONFIG (start /
>>>run / msconfig), then look at the statup tab. Also, start / run /
>>>accessories / system tools / system information, then software
>>>environment / startup programs.
>>
>>You should also perhaps consider spyware and malware. Try downloading
>>and running Lavasofts Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy.
>
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:57 pm
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> Its starting to sound like I just do not have a fast computer Smile But
> the thing I dont get is that high speed internet, why pages load all
> choppy still.. and they didnt use to.. which is why I thought I could
> improve my speed with more ram maybe.
>

A 2.4GHz Celeron is more than enough for Internet browsing. My 3rd PC is P3
800Mhz w/ 256MB ram and all graphic intensive Internet pages load very fast.
That being said, I suspect something's wrong w/ your graphic card driver.
Uninstall it and install the latest one.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:50 pm
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You may run faster by just using the 512mb stick of ram...
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:20 pm
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"www.ttdown.com" <forteagentdl RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Im not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I think you all
> know alot about this stuff so hoepfully someone can help me out..
>
> My computer Processing time is really starting to slow down

Try the free Process Explorer which will show if some tasks are eating
up cpu time:
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:51 am
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just installed a ATi x1600 video card the other day.. so I dont think
its the graphics Smile

I must just have too much junk on my computer.. but I will try runing
the system on only the 512 .. and see if it is faster.

In the system files it says I have 768MB of Ram.. so that mean that
all of my Ram is functioning? Or does that just mean that thats my
possible maximum if everything was working properly.

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:07:22 -0400, "Fidelis K" <sdfs.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>> Its starting to sound like I just do not have a fast computer Smile But
>> the thing I dont get is that high speed internet, why pages load all
>> choppy still.. and they didnt use to.. which is why I thought I could
>> improve my speed with more ram maybe.
>>
>
>A 2.4GHz Celeron is more than enough for Internet browsing. My 3rd PC is P3
>800Mhz w/ 256MB ram and all graphic intensive Internet pages load very fast.
>That being said, I suspect something's wrong w/ your graphic card driver.
>Uninstall it and install the latest one.
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:51 am
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All of your ram is being seen and used.


www.ttdown.com wrote:

> just installed a ATi x1600 video card the other day.. so I dont think
> its the graphics Smile
>
> I must just have too much junk on my computer.. but I will try runing
> the system on only the 512 .. and see if it is faster.
>
> In the system files it says I have 768MB of Ram.. so that mean that
> all of my Ram is functioning? Or does that just mean that thats my
> possible maximum if everything was working properly.
>
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:07:22 -0400, "Fidelis K" <sdfs.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Its starting to sound like I just do not have a fast computer Smile But
>>>the thing I dont get is that high speed internet, why pages load all
>>>choppy still.. and they didnt use to.. which is why I thought I could
>>>improve my speed with more ram maybe.
>>>
>>
>>A 2.4GHz Celeron is more than enough for Internet browsing. My 3rd PC is P3
>>800Mhz w/ 256MB ram and all graphic intensive Internet pages load very fast.
>>That being said, I suspect something's wrong w/ your graphic card driver.
>>Uninstall it and install the latest one.
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:16 am
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www.ttdown.com wrote:
> just installed a ATi x1600 video card the other day.. so I dont think
> its the graphics Smile

Hmm... which graphics card did you have before this recent upgrade?
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:53 pm
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Try updating/reloading the latest VIA chipset drivers.
VIA recommends reloading their motherboard chipset drivers after any changes
in the computer.


"www.ttdown.com" <forteagentdl DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I run adaware, and registry mechanic on a regluar basis..
>
> Its starting to sound like I just do not have a fast computer Smile But
> the thing I dont get is that high speed internet, why pages load all
> choppy still.. and they didnt use to.. which is why I thought I could
> improve my speed with more ram maybe.
>
> As for the dual channel thing, I have no idea what that means really
> Smile My chipset, is from VIA, and I have 2 sockets for Ram.. thats about
> all I know Smile
>
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:45:28 +0100, Shawk <shawk DeleteThis @clara.net.3guesses>
> wrote:
>
>>Barry Watzman wrote:
>>> ***IF*** your motherboard & chipset support dual channel memory (big
>>> if), then you made a mistake by configuring the system with any memory
>>> configuration other than in matched pairs of modules properly installed
>>> for dual-channel memory operation.
>>>
>>> Also, a 2.4GHz Celeron is not a fast CPU.
>>>
>>> You need to review the tasks loading at startup. Use MSCONFIG (start /
>>> run / msconfig), then look at the statup tab. Also, start / run /
>>> accessories / system tools / system information, then software
>>> environment / startup programs.
>>
>>You should also perhaps consider spyware and malware. Try downloading
>>and running Lavasofts Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy.
>
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