First Radeon HD3870 Benches

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202421
Looking in the slides, there's supposedly a dual-core version coming, dubbed
HD3870 X2.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/09/inq-reveals-r68...adeon-h
The Inquirer seems to believe it will be priced in the $399-499 range.

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"Carl" <ma.DeleteThis@theworld.universe> wrote in message
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> Any news on a replacement for the HD2900?
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"First of One" <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202421
> Looking in the slides, there's supposedly a dual-core version coming,
> dubbed HD3870 X2.

Fascinating blog. Thank you. Oh - and a good article too.

Four cards at once! I would hate to pay the power bill on that one. What
would that be? 2kw? At least 1.3kw for four boards and the rest in the
computer. God - how much fun would that be. EIGHT monitors to use. It
boggles the mind.

William
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"William" <nospam.RemoveThis@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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>
> "First of One" <root.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:xdSdnWHROrbDkKTanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202421
>> Looking in the slides, there's supposedly a dual-core version coming,
>> dubbed HD3870 X2.
>
> Fascinating blog. Thank you. Oh - and a good article too.
>
> Four cards at once! I would hate to pay the power bill on that one. What
> would that be? 2kw? At least 1.3kw for four boards and the rest in the
> computer. God - how much fun would that be. EIGHT monitors to use. It
> boggles the mind.
>
> William
>

Back in the '80s when I worked in Salt Lake City, I did some work with Evans
& Sutherland. They did flight and auto simulators. At the time they used
PDPll's for their visual work. I think their sims used around 8 monitors,
cost around a couple million dollars and took up a room to run.

And now I can get the same thing on my desk, less the hydraulics and enviro
room. Wow - how far we have come.

William
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Smashing articles, thanks very much!
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"William" <nospam.RemoveThis@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> Back in the '80s when I worked in Salt Lake City, I did some work with
> Evans & Sutherland. They did flight and auto simulators. At the time
> they used PDPll's for their visual work. I think their sims used around 8
> monitors, cost around a couple million dollars and took up a room to run.

Cool. E&S, now that's an old name in graphics. I believe quite a few of the
current-day ATi and nVidia employees came from E&S. They made a multi-R300
solution not that long ago, according to XBitLabs.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video/crossfire/rade...simulat

> And now I can get the same thing on my desk, less the hydraulics and
> enviro room. Wow - how far we have come.

Of course, the hydraulics and enviro room contributed much to the cost of
the system. In early 2006 I did some work with CAE to certify a Level-D
simulator update. The biggest cost-drivers are the simulated airspeed,
altitude and flight control forces, all of which must be within single-digit
percentages of the real aircraft.

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"William" <nospam RemoveThis @pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> Back in the '80s when I worked in Salt Lake City, I did some work
with
> Evans & Sutherland. They did flight and auto simulators. At the
time
> they used PDPll's for their visual work. I think their sims used
around 8
> monitors, cost around a couple million dollars and took up a room
to run.

Cool. E&S, now that's an old name in graphics. I believe quite a few
of the
current-day ATi and nVidia employees came from E&S. They made a
multi-R300
solution not that long ago, according to XBitLabs.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?
src=/images/video/crossfire/radeon_simulator_bg.jpg&1=1

> And now I can get the same thing on my desk, less the hydraulics
and
> enviro room. Wow - how far we have come.

Of course, the hydraulics and enviro room contributed much to the
cost of
the system. In early 2006 I did some work with CAE to certify a
Level-D
simulator update. The biggest cost-drivers are the simulated
airspeed,
altitude and flight control forces, all of which must be within
single-digit
percentages of the real aircraft.

There are a few companies that actually make hydrolic systems for pc
simulators, they run about $2k if I remember No up/down but
left/right forward/back and seat rumble (last one not as good as it
should be)

As for this card MINE,MINE,MINE all MINE (im a GREEDY coward)
Not even looking at the benchmarks yet but way less power drain,
DX10.1 (NVIDIA where ARE you?-no date from them maybe feb/march)
Plus this is suppossed to be a mid range card means I can jump from
my 1950 to this card for christmas at a price I can scrap together.

Come January with Vista SP1, and I will be caught up (except I do
need to go to a 22"wide (my 19" is stuck at 1280x1024)


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Subject: First Radeon HD3870 Benches


> http://iax-tech.com/video/3870/38701.htm
> Not much except for some 3DMark 06 and Crysis runs. Seems to be slightly
> slower than the 8800GT. Looks like they got the hardware AA resolver
> working again with the 55 nm respin, so performance with AA is now
> competitive.
>
> --
> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>

This card (the 3870) is much more attractive to me than the 2900 is/was.
It's more refined and consistent.

I would seriously consider buying this if I was in the market. Lately, I
haven't had enough time to do any real gaming though

Tony
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As of the time of this news post, HIS and Sapphire cards are already in
stock at Newegg for $219, fairly good price compared to the 8800GT at $289.
I guess this can be considered a hard-launch, for what it's worth.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102713

That said, my two X1900XTs are doing fine with all games I've thrown at it.

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
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"Tony DiMarzio" <tony.dimarzio.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> This card (the 3870) is much more attractive to me than the 2900 is/was.
> It's more refined and consistent.
>
> I would seriously consider buying this if I was in the market. Lately, I
> haven't had enough time to do any real gaming though
>
> Tony
>
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That price is terrific. I'm almost embarrassed to admit I spent 600.00 on my
X1900XTX. I purchased it the day it was released. Oh well. I had the fastest
card on the market for a few months anyway.

Yes, two X1900XT's in CF should handle anything on the market in DX9 mode.

Tony

"First of One" <root.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> As of the time of this news post, HIS and Sapphire cards are already in
> stock at Newegg for $219, fairly good price compared to the 8800GT at
> $289. I guess this can be considered a hard-launch, for what it's worth.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161212
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102713
>
> That said, my two X1900XTs are doing fine with all games I've thrown at
> it.
>
> --
> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>
>
> "Tony DiMarzio" <tony.dimarzio.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TtmdnR_6f7M6K6HanZ2dnUVZ_qSonZ2d@comcast.com...
>> This card (the 3870) is much more attractive to me than the 2900 is/was.
>> It's more refined and consistent.
>>
>> I would seriously consider buying this if I was in the market. Lately, I
>> haven't had enough time to do any real gaming though
>>
>> Tony
>>
>
>
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