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Ron

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:17 pm
Post subject: Running Dual Boot with 98SE and XP Pro SP1
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I have a dual boot system on an Abit BD7II-R with 98SE on an old Seagate
ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 Master and a Lite-On CD-RW Primary Slave.
Secondary IDE 2 Master is a LG GSA-4040B DVD-RAM with NO slave. My WinXP Pro
is on Primary IDE 3 & 4 as a RAID array. Now, this mobo has IDE 3 & 4 as
ATA133/RAID capable. But IDE 1 & 2 are spec'd as ATA100 capable. The problem
is that my GSA-4040B is spec'd as capable of running at UDMA66. However, IAA
always shows it running as UDMA33. I've tried all combinations or slave and
master with my DVDs and CD drives( I also have a Pioneer A05 running
currently as a USB device). One wierd thing is that my Advanced Settings tab
for my Primary and Secondary IDE channels tab is missing, so I can't fool
around with manually setting the UDMA or PIO modes within Windows. My BIOS
settings only allow Auto and Disabled for UDMA modes but allow PIO modes to
be set manually from 0 through 4 so I can't manually select UDMA 4 there
either. I'm thinking that the old Seagate ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 is
lowering the UDMA mode for everything else to a maximum of UDMA 2. Does this
sound logical? If so, I also have a WD 80GB 8MB buffer 7200rpm HDD on a FW
port. I was thinking I could exchange that with the old seagate as I'm sure
the WD is ATA100 and this should allow my 4040B to run at its' spec'd
value(ATA66). I'd like to test this theory first by disabling the Seagate
with 98SE on it and boot into XP to see if the 4040B is running at ata66. My
question is, will I run into trouble with the Boot.ini, if I merely pull the
controller cable to the Seagate out of the mobo(with the power off, of
course). Will the system automatically boot into the remaining XP partition
by itself even though it expects to see a multi-disk partition? Or will I
have to reinstall the entire dual boot setup with installing 98SE first and
XP second, if I make this hard drive switch? Does any of this make sense?
TIA,

Ron

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:40 pm
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what I would try before you go moving cables around is to delete the IDE
controller from the device manager, reboot and then allow it to be
redetected and see if you don't get the tabs on the device dialog.

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"Ron" <rkrebs1 RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote in message
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 > I have a dual boot system on an Abit BD7II-R with 98SE on an old Seagate
 > ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 Master and a Lite-On CD-RW Primary Slave.
 > Secondary IDE 2 Master is a LG GSA-4040B DVD-RAM with NO slave. My WinXP
Pro
 > is on Primary IDE 3 & 4 as a RAID array. Now, this mobo has IDE 3 & 4 as
 > ATA133/RAID capable. But IDE 1 & 2 are spec'd as ATA100 capable. The
problem
 > is that my GSA-4040B is spec'd as capable of running at UDMA66. However,
IAA
 > always shows it running as UDMA33. I've tried all combinations or slave
and
 > master with my DVDs and CD drives( I also have a Pioneer A05 running
 > currently as a USB device). One wierd thing is that my Advanced Settings
tab
 > for my Primary and Secondary IDE channels tab is missing, so I can't fool
 > around with manually setting the UDMA or PIO modes within Windows. My BIOS
 > settings only allow Auto and Disabled for UDMA modes but allow PIO modes
to
 > be set manually from 0 through 4 so I can't manually select UDMA 4 there
 > either. I'm thinking that the old Seagate ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 is
 > lowering the UDMA mode for everything else to a maximum of UDMA 2. Does
this
 > sound logical? If so, I also have a WD 80GB 8MB buffer 7200rpm HDD on a FW
 > port. I was thinking I could exchange that with the old seagate as I'm
sure
 > the WD is ATA100 and this should allow my 4040B to run at its' spec'd
 > value(ATA66). I'd like to test this theory first by disabling the Seagate
 > with 98SE on it and boot into XP to see if the 4040B is running at ata66.
My
 > question is, will I run into trouble with the Boot.ini, if I merely pull
the
 > controller cable to the Seagate out of the mobo(with the power off, of
 > course). Will the system automatically boot into the remaining XP
partition
 > by itself even though it expects to see a multi-disk partition? Or will I
 > have to reinstall the entire dual boot setup with installing 98SE first
and
 > XP second, if I make this hard drive switch? Does any of this make sense?
 > TIA,
 >
 > Ron
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:50 pm
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"TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
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 > what I would try before you go moving cables around is to delete the IDE
 > controller from the device manager, reboot and then allow it to be
 > redetected and see if you don't get the tabs on the device dialog.
 >
 > --
 >
 > Thomas Geery
 > Network+ certified
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font</a>>
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
 > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
 > over 118,000 FTP users served!
 > ^^^^^^^

Nope, I tried that before and just tried it now. No Advanced Settings tab
under IDE channels. I think it has something to do with the SP1. I had it
before that update. But what do you think about the removal of the 98SE
system HDD cable and allow WinXP boot by default? Will it choke if it
doesn't see the other OS there? Thanks for response, Tom.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:33 pm
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well, it should not have anything to do with SP1 because I am running SP1a
and I have the Advanced tabs. have you tried booting into safe mode and
looking for more than one occurrence of the IDE controllers? did you delete
ide 1 & 2 and the master controller entry as well?

--

Thomas Geery
Network+ certified

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 118,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^




"Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:bpeb8d$j0b$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
 >
 > "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
 > news:%dxub.11816$MB4.148@lakeread02...
  > > what I would try before you go moving cables around is to delete the IDE
  > > controller from the device manager, reboot and then allow it to be
  > > redetected and see if you don't get the tabs on the device dialog.
  > >
  > > --
  > >
  > > Thomas Geery
  > > Network+ certified
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font</a>>
  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
  > > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
  > > over 118,000 FTP users served!
  > > ^^^^^^^
 >
 > Nope, I tried that before and just tried it now. No Advanced Settings tab
 > under IDE channels. I think it has something to do with the SP1. I had it
 > before that update. But what do you think about the removal of the 98SE
 > system HDD cable and allow WinXP boot by default? Will it choke if it
 > doesn't see the other OS there? Thanks for response, Tom.
 >
 > Ron
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:32 pm
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"TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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 > well, it should not have anything to do with SP1 because I am running SP1a
 > and I have the Advanced tabs. have you tried booting into safe mode and
 > looking for more than one occurrence of the IDE controllers? did you
delete
 > ide 1 & 2 and the master controller entry as well?
 >
 > --
 >
 > Thomas Geery
 > Network+ certified

Yeah, I uninstalled all three entries and under Safe mode. But still there
was no tab. But, what did work, was uninstalling IAA 2.3. I got my Advanced
Settings tab back but cannot change the UDMA mode. Weird, if I uninstalled
IAA, how come it still reports my IDE controllers as Ultra DMA? I thought
IAA was what enables the ATA100. I guess maybe it just means that it can
only go as high as UDMA 2 now. Do you still have the IAA 2.2 on your FTP?
Maybe I should try that.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:50 pm
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"Ron" <rkrebs1 RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote in message
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 > Yeah, I uninstalled all three entries and under Safe mode. But still there
 > was no tab. But, what did work, was uninstalling IAA 2.3. I got my
Advanced
 > Settings tab back but cannot change the UDMA mode. Weird, if I uninstalled
 > IAA, how come it still reports my IDE controllers as Ultra DMA? I thought
 > IAA was what enables the ATA100. I guess maybe it just means that it can
 > only go as high as UDMA 2 now. Do you still have the IAA 2.2 on your FTP?
 > Maybe I should try that.
 >
 > Ron
 >
 >

Well, no luck with IAA 2.22. I installed that and again, I lost the tab. So,
I'm at a loss.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:50 am
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"Ron" <rkrebs1 RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote in message news:bpe5pe$7tp$1@bob.news.rcn.net
 > I have a dual boot system on an Abit BD7II-R with 98SE on an old Seagate
 > ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 Master and a Lite-On CD-RW Primary Slave.

 > Secondary IDE 2 Master is a LG GSA-4040B DVD-RAM with NO slave.

 > My WinXP Pro
 > is on Primary IDE 3 & 4 as a RAID array. Now, this mobo has IDE 3 & 4
 > as ATA133/RAID capable. But IDE 1 & 2 are spec'd as ATA100 capable.

 > The problem

Problem?

 > is that my GSA-4040B is spec'd as capable of running at UDMA66.
 > However, IAA always shows it running as UDMA33.

Since it is alone on it's own channel that isn't really a problem.
Any UDMA66 drive does less than or close to 30MB/s.

 > I've tried all combinations or slave and
 > master with my DVDs and CD drives( I also have a Pioneer A05 running
 > currently as a USB device). One wierd thing is that my Advanced Settings tab
 > for my Primary and Secondary IDE channels tab is missing, so I can't fool
 > around with manually setting the UDMA or PIO modes within Windows. My BIOS
 > settings only allow Auto and Disabled for UDMA modes but allow PIO modes to
 > be set manually from 0 through 4 so I can't manually select UDMA 4 there
 > either. I'm thinking that the old Seagate ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 is
 > lowering the UDMA mode for everything else to a maximum of UDMA 2.

 > Does this sound logical?

No, not at all.

 > If so, I also have a WD 80GB 8MB buffer 7200rpm HDD on a FW
 > port. I was thinking I could exchange that with the old seagate as I'm sure
 > the WD is ATA100 and this should allow my 4040B to run at its' spec'd
 > value(ATA66). I'd like to test this theory first by disabling the Seagate
 > with 98SE on it and boot into XP to see if the 4040B is running at ata66. My
 > question is, will I run into trouble with the Boot.ini, if I merely pull the
 > controller cable to the Seagate out of the mobo(with the power off, of
 > course). Will the system automatically boot into the remaining XP partition
 > by itself even though it expects to see a multi-disk partition? Or will I
 > have to reinstall the entire dual boot setup with installing 98SE first and
 > XP second, if I make this hard drive switch?

 > Does any of this make sense?

No.

 > TIA,
 >
 > Ron<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:50 am
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"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to.DeleteThis@myweb.nl> wrote in message
news:bpecir$1js4dm$1@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
 >
 > "Ron" <rkrebs1.DeleteThis@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:bpe5pe$7tp$1@bob.news.rcn.net
  > > I have a dual boot system on an Abit BD7II-R with 98SE on an old Seagate
  > > ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 Master and a Lite-On CD-RW Primary Slave.
 >
  > > Secondary IDE 2 Master is a LG GSA-4040B DVD-RAM with NO slave.
 >
  > > My WinXP Pro
  > > is on Primary IDE 3 & 4 as a RAID array. Now, this mobo has IDE 3 & 4
  > > as ATA133/RAID capable. But IDE 1 & 2 are spec'd as ATA100 capable.
 >
  > > The problem
 >
 > Problem?
 >
  > > is that my GSA-4040B is spec'd as capable of running at UDMA66.
  > > However, IAA always shows it running as UDMA33.
 >
 > Since it is alone on it's own channel that isn't really a problem.
 > Any UDMA66 drive does less than or close to 30MB/s.
 >
  > > I've tried all combinations or slave and
  > > master with my DVDs and CD drives( I also have a Pioneer A05 running
  > > currently as a USB device). One wierd thing is that my Advanced Settings
tab
  > > for my Primary and Secondary IDE channels tab is missing, so I can't
fool
  > > around with manually setting the UDMA or PIO modes within Windows. My
BIOS
  > > settings only allow Auto and Disabled for UDMA modes but allow PIO modes
to
  > > be set manually from 0 through 4 so I can't manually select UDMA 4 there
  > > either. I'm thinking that the old Seagate ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 is
  > > lowering the UDMA mode for everything else to a maximum of UDMA 2.
 >
  > > Does this sound logical?
 >
 > No, not at all.
 >
  > > If so, I also have a WD 80GB 8MB buffer 7200rpm HDD on a FW
  > > port. I was thinking I could exchange that with the old seagate as I'm
sure
  > > the WD is ATA100 and this should allow my 4040B to run at its' spec'd
  > > value(ATA66). I'd like to test this theory first by disabling the
Seagate
  > > with 98SE on it and boot into XP to see if the 4040B is running at
ata66. My
  > > question is, will I run into trouble with the Boot.ini, if I merely pull
the
  > > controller cable to the Seagate out of the mobo(with the power off, of
  > > course). Will the system automatically boot into the remaining XP
partition
  > > by itself even though it expects to see a multi-disk partition? Or will
I
  > > have to reinstall the entire dual boot setup with installing 98SE first
and
  > > XP second, if I make this hard drive switch?
 >
  > > Does any of this make sense?
 >
 > No.
 >
  > > TIA,
  > >
  > > Ron

How can I clarify it for you? What, specifically, seems wrong? Otherwise,
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:35 am
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I forgot that you should be making those adjustments in the IAA... at least,
that was the case back when I ran that on my non-raid controller. there are
methods to make the UDMA mode adjustment in the IAA but it sounds like
something else is preventing your device from running in that mode. not
sure you would benefit from all of this energy you are expending for an
optical device.

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<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 118,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^




"Ron" <rkrebs1 DeleteThis @rcn.com> wrote in message
news:bpeh71$533$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
 >
 > "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM- DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
 > news:pTyub.12105$MB4.495@lakeread02...
  > > well, it should not have anything to do with SP1 because I am running
SP1a
  > > and I have the Advanced tabs. have you tried booting into safe mode and
  > > looking for more than one occurrence of the IDE controllers? did you
 > delete
  > > ide 1 & 2 and the master controller entry as well?
  > >
  > > --
  > >
  > > Thomas Geery
  > > Network+ certified
 >
 > Yeah, I uninstalled all three entries and under Safe mode. But still there
 > was no tab. But, what did work, was uninstalling IAA 2.3. I got my
Advanced
 > Settings tab back but cannot change the UDMA mode. Weird, if I uninstalled
 > IAA, how come it still reports my IDE controllers as Ultra DMA? I thought
 > IAA was what enables the ATA100. I guess maybe it just means that it can
 > only go as high as UDMA 2 now. Do you still have the IAA 2.2 on your FTP?
 > Maybe I should try that.
 >
 > Ron
 >
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:35 am
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look for the adjustments in IAA.

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<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 118,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^




"Ron" <rkrebs1 RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote in message
news:bpeia2$8bc$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
 >
 > "Ron" <rkrebs1 RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote in message
 > news:bpeh71$533$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
  > > Yeah, I uninstalled all three entries and under Safe mode. But still
there
  > > was no tab. But, what did work, was uninstalling IAA 2.3. I got my
 > Advanced
  > > Settings tab back but cannot change the UDMA mode. Weird, if I
uninstalled
  > > IAA, how come it still reports my IDE controllers as Ultra DMA? I
thought
  > > IAA was what enables the ATA100. I guess maybe it just means that it can
  > > only go as high as UDMA 2 now. Do you still have the IAA 2.2 on your
FTP?
  > > Maybe I should try that.
  > >
  > > Ron
  > >
  > >
 >
 > Well, no luck with IAA 2.22. I installed that and again, I lost the tab.
So,
 > I'm at a loss.
 >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:35 am
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he is trying to say that you are fretting about something that might not
really be a problem.

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<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 118,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^




"Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:bpefm8$10c$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
 >
 > "Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to.RemoveThis@myweb.nl> wrote in message
 > news:bpecir$1js4dm$1@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > >
  > > "Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote in message
 > news:bpe5pe$7tp$1@bob.news.rcn.net
   > > > I have a dual boot system on an Abit BD7II-R with 98SE on an old
Seagate
   > > > ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 Master and a Lite-On CD-RW Primary Slave.
  > >
   > > > Secondary IDE 2 Master is a LG GSA-4040B DVD-RAM with NO slave.
  > >
   > > > My WinXP Pro
   > > > is on Primary IDE 3 & 4 as a RAID array. Now, this mobo has IDE 3 & 4
   > > > as ATA133/RAID capable. But IDE 1 & 2 are spec'd as ATA100 capable.
  > >
   > > > The problem
  > >
  > > Problem?
  > >
   > > > is that my GSA-4040B is spec'd as capable of running at UDMA66.
   > > > However, IAA always shows it running as UDMA33.
  > >
  > > Since it is alone on it's own channel that isn't really a problem.
  > > Any UDMA66 drive does less than or close to 30MB/s.
  > >
   > > > I've tried all combinations or slave and
   > > > master with my DVDs and CD drives( I also have a Pioneer A05 running
   > > > currently as a USB device). One wierd thing is that my Advanced
Settings
 > tab
   > > > for my Primary and Secondary IDE channels tab is missing, so I can't
 > fool
   > > > around with manually setting the UDMA or PIO modes within Windows. My
 > BIOS
   > > > settings only allow Auto and Disabled for UDMA modes but allow PIO
modes
 > to
   > > > be set manually from 0 through 4 so I can't manually select UDMA 4
there
   > > > either. I'm thinking that the old Seagate ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1
is
   > > > lowering the UDMA mode for everything else to a maximum of UDMA 2.
  > >
   > > > Does this sound logical?
  > >
  > > No, not at all.
  > >
   > > > If so, I also have a WD 80GB 8MB buffer 7200rpm HDD on a FW
   > > > port. I was thinking I could exchange that with the old seagate as I'm
 > sure
   > > > the WD is ATA100 and this should allow my 4040B to run at its' spec'd
   > > > value(ATA66). I'd like to test this theory first by disabling the
 > Seagate
   > > > with 98SE on it and boot into XP to see if the 4040B is running at
 > ata66. My
   > > > question is, will I run into trouble with the Boot.ini, if I merely
pull
 > the
   > > > controller cable to the Seagate out of the mobo(with the power off, of
   > > > course). Will the system automatically boot into the remaining XP
 > partition
   > > > by itself even though it expects to see a multi-disk partition? Or
will
 > I
   > > > have to reinstall the entire dual boot setup with installing 98SE
first
 > and
   > > > XP second, if I make this hard drive switch?
  > >
   > > > Does any of this make sense?
  > >
  > > No.
  > >
   > > > TIA,
   > > >
   > > > Ron
 >
 > How can I clarify it for you? What, specifically, seems wrong? Otherwise,
 > you're not helping. I admit, I'm not a tech, but perhaps you can
elaborate.
 >
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:59 am
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:35:53 -0500, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM- RemoveThis @cox.net>
wrote:

 >he is trying to say that you are fretting about something that might not
 >really be a problem.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:42 pm
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"Ron" <rkrebs1.DeleteThis@rcn.com> wrote in message news:bpefm8$10c$1@bob.news.rcn.net
 > "Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to.DeleteThis@myweb.nl> wrote in message news:bpecir$1js4dm$1@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > >
  > > "Ron" <rkrebs1.DeleteThis@rcn.com> wrote in message news:bpe5pe$7tp$1@bob.news.rcn.net
   > > > I have a dual boot system on an Abit BD7II-R with 98SE on an old Seagate
   > > > ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 Master and a Lite-On CD-RW Primary Slave.
  > >
   > > > Secondary IDE 2 Master is a LG GSA-4040B DVD-RAM with NO slave.
  > >
   > > > My WinXP Pro
   > > > is on Primary IDE 3 & 4 as a RAID array. Now, this mobo has IDE 3 & 4
   > > > as ATA133/RAID capable. But IDE 1 & 2 are spec'd as ATA100 capable.
  > >
   > > > The problem
  > >
  > > Problem?
  > >
   > > > is that my GSA-4040B is spec'd as capable of running at UDMA66.
   > > > However, IAA always shows it running as UDMA33.
  > >
  > > Since it is alone on it's own channel that isn't really a problem.
  > > Any UDMA66 drive does less than or close to 30MB/s.
  > >
   > > > I've tried all combinations or slave and
   > > > master with my DVDs and CD drives( I also have a Pioneer A05 running
   > > > currently as a USB device). One wierd thing is that my Advanced Settings tab
   > > > for my Primary and Secondary IDE channels tab is missing, so I can't fool
   > > > around with manually setting the UDMA or PIO modes within Windows. My BIOS
   > > > settings only allow Auto and Disabled for UDMA modes but allow PIO modes to
   > > > be set manually from 0 through 4 so I can't manually select UDMA 4 there
   > > > either. I'm thinking that the old Seagate ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 is
   > > > lowering the UDMA mode for everything else to a maximum of UDMA 2.
  > >
   > > > Does this sound logical?
  > >
  > > No, not at all.
  > >
   > > > If so, I also have a WD 80GB 8MB buffer 7200rpm HDD on a FW
   > > > port. I was thinking I could exchange that with the old seagate as I'm sure
   > > > the WD is ATA100 and this should allow my 4040B to run at its' spec'd
   > > > value(ATA66). I'd like to test this theory first by disabling the Seagate
   > > > with 98SE on it and boot into XP to see if the 4040B is running at ata66. My
   > > > question is, will I run into trouble with the Boot.ini, if I merely pull the
   > > > controller cable to the Seagate out of the mobo(with the power off, of
   > > > course). Will the system automatically boot into the remaining XP partition
   > > > by itself even though it expects to see a multi-disk partition? Or will I
   > > > have to reinstall the entire dual boot setup with installing 98SE first and
   > > > XP second, if I make this hard drive switch?
  > >
   > > > Does any of this make sense?
  > >
  > > No.
  > >
   > > > TIA,
   > > >
   > > > Ron
 >
 > How can I clarify it for you?

Actually, that is my question but you just made it clear that it is a pointless one.

 > What, specifically, seems wrong?

(Again, that was my question).

That you want to clear-up a problem that will bring you nothing, as it
isn't really a practical problem.

 > Otherwise, you're not helping.

 > I admit, I'm not a tech, but perhaps you can elaborate.

What is there not to understand in:

"Since it is alone on it's own channel that isn't really a problem.
Any UDMA66 drive does less than or close to 30MB/s."

So it runs at full speed anyway.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:02 pm
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Hi Ron,

Gotta ask. You do have it connected to an 80 wire cable, don't you?

"Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote in message news:bpe5pe$7tp$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
 > I have a dual boot system on an Abit BD7II-R with 98SE on an old Seagate
 > ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 Master and a Lite-On CD-RW Primary Slave.
 > Secondary IDE 2 Master is a LG GSA-4040B DVD-RAM with NO slave. My WinXP Pro
 > is on Primary IDE 3 & 4 as a RAID array. Now, this mobo has IDE 3 & 4 as
 > ATA133/RAID capable. But IDE 1 & 2 are spec'd as ATA100 capable. The problem
 > is that my GSA-4040B is spec'd as capable of running at UDMA66. However, IAA
 > always shows it running as UDMA33. I've tried all combinations or slave and
 > master with my DVDs and CD drives( I also have a Pioneer A05 running
 > currently as a USB device). One wierd thing is that my Advanced Settings tab
 > for my Primary and Secondary IDE channels tab is missing, so I can't fool
 > around with manually setting the UDMA or PIO modes within Windows. My BIOS
 > settings only allow Auto and Disabled for UDMA modes but allow PIO modes to
 > be set manually from 0 through 4 so I can't manually select UDMA 4 there
 > either. I'm thinking that the old Seagate ATA33 HDD on Primary IDE 1 is
 > lowering the UDMA mode for everything else to a maximum of UDMA 2. Does this
 > sound logical? If so, I also have a WD 80GB 8MB buffer 7200rpm HDD on a FW
 > port. I was thinking I could exchange that with the old seagate as I'm sure
 > the WD is ATA100 and this should allow my 4040B to run at its' spec'd
 > value(ATA66). I'd like to test this theory first by disabling the Seagate
 > with 98SE on it and boot into XP to see if the 4040B is running at ata66. My
 > question is, will I run into trouble with the Boot.ini, if I merely pull the
 > controller cable to the Seagate out of the mobo(with the power off, of
 > course). Will the system automatically boot into the remaining XP partition
 > by itself even though it expects to see a multi-disk partition? Or will I
 > have to reinstall the entire dual boot setup with installing 98SE first and
 > XP second, if I make this hard drive switch? Does any of this make sense?
 > TIA,
 >
 > Ron
 >
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:32 pm
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 > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:35:53 -0500, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.DeleteThis@cox.net>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >he is trying to say that you are fretting about something that might not
  > >really be a problem.
 >
 > Nice top post! 104 lines for that.
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