SATA any better than ATA

=|[ Stephan Grossklass's ]|= wrote:

 > Creeping Stone schrieb:
  >>
  >> Maybe a different benchmark would bring out the Raptors strength ?
 >
 > I'd suggest <http://storagereview.com/comparison.html>.
Nice link...
 > You'll find the
 > 74 gig Raptor right among the 15k SCSI crowd when it comes to desktop
 > performance. The older 36 gig model is quite a bit slower, barely
 > winning against the 7K250. (Which still isn't too shabby.)
 >
I see that, it scores twice as much in SR-Highend drivemark2002 as my wee
Maxtor!

(thats more like it;)
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=|[ Rob Stow's ]|= wrote:

.............
 >
 > And an interesting result on something else ...
 > 5400 rpm 40 GB Maxtor that is in that system
 > as the Master on the secondary IDE port:
 > with *idle* DVD drive as slave: 36.1 23.0 30.1
 > with DVD drive disconnected: 43.0 23.7 35.8
 >
Slowcoach ;p
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Creeping Stone wrote:
 > =|[ Rob Stow's ]|= wrote:
 >
 > ............
 >
  >>And an interesting result on something else ...
  >>5400 rpm 40 GB Maxtor that is in that system
  >>as the Master on the secondary IDE port:
  >>with *idle* DVD drive as slave: 36.1 23.0 30.1
  >>with DVD drive disconnected: 43.0 23.7 35.8
  >>
 >
  > Slowcoach ;p

The only reason that drive is still in the system is
so that the guy who said he'll buy it can see it in
operation before he hands over the money. And the
speed of that drive is kind of beside the point - it
is the difference in speeds when the DVD drive is
connected as compared to when it is disconnected that
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Creeping Stone wrote:
 > =|[ Ben Pope's ]|= wrote:
 >
  >> Creeping Stone wrote:
   >>> =|[ Ben Pope's ]|= wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> Transfers:
   >>>> WD360GD & WD2500JD
   >>>> Read:
   >>>> Beginning: 60Megs/s
   >>>> End: 36Megs/s
   >>>> Average: 50Megs/s
   >>>>
   >>> To Compare,
   >>> I just tested my Maxtor Diamondmax 2megbuf 40Gig Pata133 (quiet mode)
   >>> with HDTach, no reboot so testing with >50+ windows and
   >>> extra services open ;]
   >>>
   >>> Beginning: 64.5 MB/s
   >>> End: 39 MB/s
   >>> Average:52.1 MB/s
   >>>
   >>> (holy smoke
   >>> Maybe a different benchmark would bring out the Raptors strength ?
  >> Same benchmark, but the figure you missed out - seek times.
 >
 > Random access: 14.1 ms,
 >
 > - so thats a bit slower, tho acoustic management is on.

Fair enough, but I wouldn't expect it to drop much when Acoustic management
is off.

 > The Maxtors transfer rates are better, thats not what I expected.

The maximum sustained transfer rates comes down to how fast the head can
read/write data - if you increase spindle speed or density, then the head
will have to be able to read faster.

 > Im not saying its as good as a Raptor in other respects,
 > but it was cheap and holds its own in this bench (

Well my 2500JD was pretty cheap in comparison (about 7 times the capacity,
about 50% more expensive), and as my figures suggest - same read transfer
speeds as the Raptor. I know for a fact it writes significant'y slower and
if you are searching across many files the Raptor is noticeably faster due
to the seek time of 8.5ms.

 > Its a pity HDTach wouldn't test the Ramdrive :]

Just do a RAM benchmark - read is in the order of 2.5GB/s, writes a little
under 1GB/s (using DDR333)

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:08:53 -0000, "Ben Pope" <spam DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

 >Not really... I think the Raptor is still the only 10K RPM drive and thus
 >wipes the floor with the rest.

Not really according to some h/d tests in PCW (May issue). It was
*slightly* faster than the Hitachi Deskstar 7200 ATA 100. Wouldn't
notice the difference in normal use, i.e. without benchmarks.


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Courseyauto wrote:
 > On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:08:53 -0000, "Ben Pope" <spam.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  >> Not really... I think the Raptor is still the only 10K RPM drive and thus
  >> wipes the floor with the rest.
 >
 > Not really according to some h/d tests in PCW (May issue). It was
 > *slightly* faster than the Hitachi Deskstar 7200 ATA 100. Wouldn't
 > notice the difference in normal use, i.e. without benchmarks.
 >
 > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >
 > Well i installed a raptor drive i sure can see the difference,without
 > benchmarks............

That's because you are doing something other than sequential reads/writes.

Your quoting style sure is confusing, I just can't get used to it!

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:03:52 -0600, Rob Stow <rob.stow.TakeThisOut@sasktel.net>
wrote:

 >And the
 >speed of that drive is kind of beside the point - it
 >is the difference in speeds when the DVD drive is
 >connected as compared to when it is disconnected that
 >I thought others might find interesting.

I wonder if turning 'autoplay' off would make any difference?

Cheers,

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 >
 > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >
 > Well i installed a raptor drive i sure can see the difference,without
 > benchmarks............

 >That's because you are doing something other than sequential reads/writes.

 >Your quoting style sure is confusing, I just can't get used to it!

 >Ben

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