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Ninja Killer

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:54 pm
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I have a NF7-S v2.0 (Bios 1Cool with a Maxtor SATA 80GB.
During POST the SATA controller waits 5-6 seconds (with the message
'Press CTRL+S or F4 to configure...').
How can I remove or at least reduce that pause?
Thank you

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:03 pm
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"Ninja Killer" said in
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 > I have a NF7-S v2.0 (Bios 1Cool with a Maxtor SATA 80GB.
 > During POST the SATA controller waits 5-6 seconds (with the message
 > 'Press CTRL+S or F4 to configure...').
 > How can I remove or at least reduce that pause?
 > Thank you

You're concerned about 5 seconds in the boot time? What OS to you boot =
to? If DOS, yes, 5 seconds can be considered significant (might account =
for 1% of the boot time) as long as there are no config.sys and =
autoexec.bat file to load the drivers and applications listed therein. =
Seems like you just need to leave your computer always running if 5 =
seconds is a big hassle. Don't enable password protect on your screen =
saver or when recovering from Standby mode since it'll take you that =
long to enter your password and hit Enter.

Seems like you could expend the efforts elsewhere if 5 seconds was that =
critical. Disable services that aren't use and not needed. Remove or =
disable startup programs. Defrag your disks, including setting Min and =
Max the same for the pagefile, deleting it in Recovery Console mode (see =
Microsoft's KB article), defrag, and rebooting so the pagefile is =
minimally fragmented. Check that nothing in Task Scheduler is configure =
to run on Windows startup or when you login. Configure an automatic =
login so you don't even have to enter your username and password. Get a =
drive with faster RPM and bigger memory cache.

I really doubt you can do anything about the delay for the SATA BIOS =
pause since it must allow some time for users to hit the trigger key to =
shows its config screens. You might be able to hit Esc or Enter to =
bypass the pause. After all, if 5 seconds is critical that means you =
are sitting there watching it.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:59 am
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"Ninja Killer" <hiforce.RemoveThis@crosswinds.net> wrote in message
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 > I have a NF7-S v2.0 (Bios 1Cool with a Maxtor SATA 80GB.
 > During POST the SATA controller waits 5-6 seconds (with the message
 > 'Press CTRL+S or F4 to configure...').
 > How can I remove or at least reduce that pause?
 > Thank you

Have a look in the Bios. There is an option in there to reduce boot up time
IIRC.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:59 am
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not an option to get rid of the screen that they are seeing...

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"CB" <CB.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Ninja Killer" <hiforce.RemoveThis@crosswinds.net> wrote in message
 > news:f081dad0.0403251354.41fd7353@posting.google.com...
  > > I have a NF7-S v2.0 (Bios 1Cool with a Maxtor SATA 80GB.
  > > During POST the SATA controller waits 5-6 seconds (with the message
  > > 'Press CTRL+S or F4 to configure...').
  > > How can I remove or at least reduce that pause?
  > > Thank you
 >
 > Have a look in the Bios. There is an option in there to reduce boot up
time
 > IIRC.
 >
 > --
 > Craven Birds
 >
 > Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/</font" target="_blank">http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds</font" target="_blank">http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds</font</a>>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:17 am
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Only guessing, because I can't be bothered to look on my comp with a NF7-S
v2.0 MoBo! What's 5 or 6 seconds between friends anyway? :-0

CB

"TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
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 > not an option to get rid of the screen that they are seeing...
 >
 > --
 >
 > Thomas Geery
 > Network+ certified
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font</a>>
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
 > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
 > over 130,000 FTP users served!
 > ^^^^^^^
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > "CB" <CB.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote in message
 > news:c3vks4$8kk$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
  > >
  > > "Ninja Killer" <hiforce.TakeThisOut@crosswinds.net> wrote in message
  > > news:f081dad0.0403251354.41fd7353@posting.google.com...
   > > > I have a NF7-S v2.0 (Bios 1Cool with a Maxtor SATA 80GB.
   > > > During POST the SATA controller waits 5-6 seconds (with the message
   > > > 'Press CTRL+S or F4 to configure...').
   > > > How can I remove or at least reduce that pause?
   > > > Thank you
  > >
  > > Have a look in the Bios. There is an option in there to reduce boot up
 > time
  > > IIRC.
  > >
  > > --
  > > Craven Birds
  > >
  > > Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/</font" target="_blank">http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/</font</a>>
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds</font" target="_blank">http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds</font</a>>
  > >
  > >
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:51 am
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agreed.

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<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 130,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^




"CB" <CB.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote in message
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 > Only guessing, because I can't be bothered to look on my comp with a NF7-S
 > v2.0 MoBo! What's 5 or 6 seconds between friends anyway? :-0
 >
 > CB
 >
 > "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
 > news:buJ8c.11587$Ft.4943@lakeread02...
  > > not an option to get rid of the screen that they are seeing...
  > >
  > > --
  > >
  > > Thomas Geery
  > > Network+ certified
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font</a>>
  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
  > > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
  > > over 130,000 FTP users served!
  > > ^^^^^^^
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > "CB" <CB.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote in message
  > > news:c3vks4$8kk$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
   > > >
   > > > "Ninja Killer" <hiforce.TakeThisOut@crosswinds.net> wrote in message
   > > > news:f081dad0.0403251354.41fd7353@posting.google.com...
   > > > > I have a NF7-S v2.0 (Bios 1Cool with a Maxtor SATA 80GB.
   > > > > During POST the SATA controller waits 5-6 seconds (with the message
   > > > > 'Press CTRL+S or F4 to configure...').
   > > > > How can I remove or at least reduce that pause?
   > > > > Thank you
   > > >
   > > > Have a look in the Bios. There is an option in there to reduce boot up
  > > time
   > > > IIRC.
   > > >
   > > > --
   > > > Craven Birds
   > > >
   > > > Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/</font" target="_blank">http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/</font</a>>
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds</font" target="_blank">http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds</font</a>>
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:52 am
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NK I empathize with you - If you're looking for fast boot times that 5-6
seconds can be an eternity. I'm going to retire my great Plextor 40x SCSI
CDROM drive because the SCSI scan takes about 10 seconds. Unfortunately, I
don't think there a fix Sad
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"Ninja Killer" said in
news:f081dad0.0403251354.41fd7353@posting.google.com:
 > I have a NF7-S v2.0 (Bios 1Cool with a Maxtor SATA 80GB.
 > During POST the SATA controller waits 5-6 seconds (with the message
 > 'Press CTRL+S or F4 to configure...').
 > How can I remove or at least reduce that pause?
 > Thank you

You're concerned about 5 seconds in the boot time? What OS to you boot to?
If DOS, yes, 5 seconds can be considered significant (might account for 1%
of the boot time) as long as there are no config.sys and autoexec.bat file
to load the drivers and applications listed therein. Seems like you just
need to leave your computer always running if 5 seconds is a big hassle.
Don't enable password protect on your screen saver or when recovering from
Standby mode since it'll take you that long to enter your password and hit
Enter.

Seems like you could expend the efforts elsewhere if 5 seconds was that
critical. Disable services that aren't use and not needed. Remove or
disable startup programs. Defrag your disks, including setting Min and Max
the same for the pagefile, deleting it in Recovery Console mode (see
Microsoft's KB article), defrag, and rebooting so the pagefile is minimally
fragmented. Check that nothing in Task Scheduler is configure to run on
Windows startup or when you login. Configure an automatic login so you
don't even have to enter your username and password. Get a drive with
faster RPM and bigger memory cache.

I really doubt you can do anything about the delay for the SATA BIOS pause
since it must allow some time for users to hit the trigger key to shows its
config screens. You might be able to hit Esc or Enter to bypass the pause.
After all, if 5 seconds is critical that means you are sitting there
watching it.


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:04 pm
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 > You're concerned about 5 seconds in the boot time? What OS to you boot
 > to?

Boot time: 32 seconds (from Power-on to Windows XP desktop)
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:06 pm
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There should be a BIOS revision or a modded BIOS with reduced delays...
Can someone confirm this?
Thanks
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:36 pm
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Ed Forsythe wrote:
 > NK I empathize with you - If you're looking for fast boot times that 5-6
 > seconds can be an eternity. I'm going to retire my great Plextor 40x SCSI
 > CDROM drive because the SCSI scan takes about 10 seconds. Unfortunately, I
 > don't think there a fix Sad

Which SCSI-adapter do you have?
If it's an Adaptec 2940 or similar, the standard settings in the
SCSI-bios will make a scan take a long time, but setting it to only
detect cdroms and not bootable, and that scan will only take 2-3 seconds.
Look for a newer SCSI-bios for your adapter also.

I'd suggest another SCSI-adapter, if you can't reduce that scan-time a
lot. Your Plextor drive is not the culprit here..

I have an Advansys ABP-940U, that if configured correctly, the scan
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:20 pm
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"Ninja Killer" said in
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 > There should be a BIOS revision or a modded BIOS with reduced
 > delays... Can someone confirm this?
 > Thanks

Have you checked with Equito over in the Abit forums? I hear a =
specialty BIOS version is labelled "Equito" and it may be his doing. If =
so, he/she probably knows most about what the limited SATA BIOS can do =
and can't do.

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"Ninja Killer" said in
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  >> You're concerned about 5 seconds in the boot time? What OS to you
  >> boot to?
 >=20
 > Boot time: 32 seconds (from Power-on to Windows XP desktop)
 > 19% of the time lost on the SATA controller POST

And if boot time were 10 seconds then it would represent 50% of the =
delay. "Wow, membership went up 100%. One more person joined."

The manual doesn't mention any settings for reducing scan time or =
skipping hard drive detect. Onboard RAID provides minimal =
functionality. Since 5 seconds is severe to you that means you must be =
sitting there having to wait. Since you are right there, have you =
checked if hitting Enter or Esc when the SATA BIOS message appears will =
skip the scan?


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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:36 am
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It is 5 useless seconds. I am annoyed by them too!

What if it had been a screen with a useless message from
Microsoft, just sitting there for five seconds, and no way you
can turn it off. Would you still have been happy with it?

I have tried pressing Ctrl+S and F4, and nothing happens.
Whatever that choice is all about it obviously has nothing to
do with my machine.

The Bios offers many different settings, why not also a chance
to switch that message off, until such a time that I may need
it?

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:03:28 -0600, "*Vanguard*"
<no-email.TakeThisOut@post-reply-in-newsgroup.invalid> wrote:

 >You're concerned about 5 seconds in the boot time?
 >
 >Seems like you could expend the efforts elsewhere if 5
 >seconds was that critical. Disable services that aren't use
 >nd not needed. Remove or disable startup programs.
 >Defrag your disks, including setting Min and Max the same
 >for the pagefile, deleting it in Recovery Console mode
 >(see Microsoft's KB article), defrag, and rebooting so
 >the pagefile is minimally fragmented. Check that nothing
 >in Task Scheduler is configure to run on Windows startup
 >or when you login. Configure an automatic login so you
 >don't even have to enter your username and password.
 >Get a drive with faster RPM and bigger memory cache.



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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:36 am
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Until SATA becomes an integral part of the BIOS process and is the
established default for hard drives. we are probably stuck with it. It will
go away in a few years.

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 > It is 5 useless seconds. I am annoyed by them too!
 >
 > What if it had been a screen with a useless message from
 > Microsoft, just sitting there for five seconds, and no way you
 > can turn it off. Would you still have been happy with it?
 >
 > I have tried pressing Ctrl+S and F4, and nothing happens.
 > Whatever that choice is all about it obviously has nothing to
 > do with my machine.
 >
 > The Bios offers many different settings, why not also a chance
 > to switch that message off, until such a time that I may need
 > it?
 >
 > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:03:28 -0600, "*Vanguard*"
 > <no-email RemoveThis @post-reply-in-newsgroup.invalid> wrote:
 >
  > >You're concerned about 5 seconds in the boot time?
  > >
  > >Seems like you could expend the efforts elsewhere if 5
  > >seconds was that critical. Disable services that aren't use
  > >nd not needed. Remove or disable startup programs.
  > >Defrag your disks, including setting Min and Max the same
  > >for the pagefile, deleting it in Recovery Console mode
  > >(see Microsoft's KB article), defrag, and rebooting so
  > >the pagefile is minimally fragmented. Check that nothing
  > >in Task Scheduler is configure to run on Windows startup
  > >or when you login. Configure an automatic login so you
  > >don't even have to enter your username and password.
  > >Get a drive with faster RPM and bigger memory cache.
 >
 >
 >
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