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SnodArt

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Since: Oct 17, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:44 am
Post subject: SS51 Windows installation insanity
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Hello,
I just bought a shuttle SS51G form newegg.com. I have spent the last
week trying to get Windows XP installed with no luck. Any help would
be great! First off, I had Win XP installed at one point, but received
several errors off and on. The install process wasn't very smooth.
Unfortunately I don't remember what all off those messages were (it
seems so long ago). I do remember that Windows often said that it had
recovered from a critical error. Windows also shut down several times
"to prevent damage to the computer". One of these messages was:

"IRQL__NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

Check to make sure all new hardware of software is properly installed.
If this is a new installation, ask our hardware or software
manufacture for any Windows updates you might need.
  If problem continues, disable or remove any newly installed hardware
or software. Disable bios memory options such as caching or shadowing.
(F8 to use safe mode to disable components)

  Beginning dump of physical memory…"

I was having so many problems, I decided to try and do a new, clean
installation. Now, XP won't install properly.
The main problem I have with the installation now is that I keep
getting this message during the installation process when Windows is
copying files to the hard drive.

"File xxx.xxx was not copied correctly

The file placed on your hard drive is not a valid windows xp system
image. If you are installing form a CD, there may be a problem with
the Window XP CD.

Press Enter to retry.

Press ESC to skip the file"
(this is as close to the message as I can remember)

Pressing Enter to retry only works about 20% of the time. With every
time I have tried to install XP this message comes. Each time I try to
install it again, I get to the same point, but with different file
names (in place of xxx.xxx), so it seems sort of random.

Here is what is in the system:
Home grown.
Shuttle SS51G (with FS51 mainboard)
Intel Celeron 2.4G CPU
Mushkin 512/PC-2700 DDRAM (only one)
NEC DVD+/-RW drive
Western Digital 120GB hard drive
(all hardware in brand new except the hard drive)

Here is what I have tried/done:
Formatted HD and tried to put XP on 20GB partition
-I tried using a 3 different XP CD's (SP1 and SP2) with same issue, so
I don't think the disc is bad.
-I tried using a different CD drive. Same problems
-I moved the Mushkin memory over one slot. Nada.
-I flashed the BOIS with the updated version from shuttle.com (only
one update).
-I checked all my drive connections and played around with which IDE
port each was connect to.
-I checked various forums for answers. I saw a couple of places where
XP acted like this on other systems, but there was no resolution
posted yet. I also saw a few places with shuttle and Windows issues,
but none that matched mine.
-I left the BIOS set to the fail-safe defaults. I don't have any
experience over/under clocking. It doesn't seem like I should have to
do this just to install Windows XP.
-At one point the CD felt a little warm. I tried letting the box cool
of before retrying. I even tried leaving the box open and cooling with
a house fan. It stayed nice and cool, but same problems.

I don't have another hard drive or memory stick to test in the system,
but I wonder if these could be the problem… ?

For the love of God, help me Smile This is insanity.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Uncle Wobbly

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:13 pm
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I had an experience like this when I first put Win2kServer on my ss51...
turned out I had got the clock speeds wrong etc...

sorted that, been solid as a rock for the last year


"SnodArt" <snodart RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:575aad24.0410170744.21f1b1dd@posting.google.com...
 > Hello,
 > I just bought a shuttle SS51G form newegg.com. I have spent the last
 > week trying to get Windows XP installed with no luck. Any help would
 > be great! First off, I had Win XP installed at one point, but received
 > several errors off and on. The install process wasn't very smooth.
 > Unfortunately I don't remember what all off those messages were (it
 > seems so long ago). I do remember that Windows often said that it had
 > recovered from a critical error. Windows also shut down several times
 > "to prevent damage to the computer". One of these messages was:
 >
 > "IRQL__NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
 >
 > Check to make sure all new hardware of software is properly installed.
 > If this is a new installation, ask our hardware or software
 > manufacture for any Windows updates you might need.
 > If problem continues, disable or remove any newly installed hardware
 > or software. Disable bios memory options such as caching or shadowing.
 > (F8 to use safe mode to disable components)
 >
 > Beginning dump of physical memory."
 >
 > I was having so many problems, I decided to try and do a new, clean
 > installation. Now, XP won't install properly.
 > The main problem I have with the installation now is that I keep
 > getting this message during the installation process when Windows is
 > copying files to the hard drive.
 >
 > "File xxx.xxx was not copied correctly
 >
 > The file placed on your hard drive is not a valid windows xp system
 > image. If you are installing form a CD, there may be a problem with
 > the Window XP CD.
 >
 > Press Enter to retry.
 >
 > Press ESC to skip the file"
 > (this is as close to the message as I can remember)
 >
 > Pressing Enter to retry only works about 20% of the time. With every
 > time I have tried to install XP this message comes. Each time I try to
 > install it again, I get to the same point, but with different file
 > names (in place of xxx.xxx), so it seems sort of random.
 >
 > Here is what is in the system:
 > Home grown.
 > Shuttle SS51G (with FS51 mainboard)
 > Intel Celeron 2.4G CPU
 > Mushkin 512/PC-2700 DDRAM (only one)
 > NEC DVD+/-RW drive
 > Western Digital 120GB hard drive
 > (all hardware in brand new except the hard drive)
 >
 > Here is what I have tried/done:
 > Formatted HD and tried to put XP on 20GB partition
 > -I tried using a 3 different XP CD's (SP1 and SP2) with same issue, so
 > I don't think the disc is bad.
 > -I tried using a different CD drive. Same problems
 > -I moved the Mushkin memory over one slot. Nada.
 > -I flashed the BOIS with the updated version from shuttle.com (only
 > one update).
 > -I checked all my drive connections and played around with which IDE
 > port each was connect to.
 > -I checked various forums for answers. I saw a couple of places where
 > XP acted like this on other systems, but there was no resolution
 > posted yet. I also saw a few places with shuttle and Windows issues,
 > but none that matched mine.
 > -I left the BIOS set to the fail-safe defaults. I don't have any
 > experience over/under clocking. It doesn't seem like I should have to
 > do this just to install Windows XP.
 > -At one point the CD felt a little warm. I tried letting the box cool
 > of before retrying. I even tried leaving the box open and cooling with
 > a house fan. It stayed nice and cool, but same problems.
 >
 > I don't have another hard drive or memory stick to test in the system,
 > but I wonder if these could be the problem. ?
 >
 > For the love of God, help me Smile This is insanity.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Conor1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:27 pm
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In article <575aad24.0410170744.21f1b1dd.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>, SnodArt
says...
 > Hello,
 > I just bought a shuttle SS51G form newegg.com. I have spent the last
 > week trying to get Windows XP installed with no luck. Any help would
 > be great! First off, I had Win XP installed at one point, but received
 > several errors off and on. The install process wasn't very smooth.
 > Unfortunately I don't remember what all off those messages were (it
 > seems so long ago). I do remember that Windows often said that it had
 > recovered from a critical error. Windows also shut down several times
 > "to prevent damage to the computer". One of these messages was:
 >
<snip>

 > I don't have another hard drive or memory stick to test in the system,
 > but I wonder if these could be the problem=3F ?
 >
RAM. Inevitably in Shuttle XPCs, most errors like that are put down to
cheap RAM.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:47 pm
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"Conor" <conor.turton.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bdcadc69124b13a98982c@news.giganews.com...
 > In article <575aad24.0410170744.21f1b1dd.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>,
 > SnodArt
 > says...
  >> Hello,
  >> I just bought a shuttle SS51G form newegg.com. I have spent the
  >> last
  >> week trying to get Windows XP installed with no luck. Any help
  >> would
  >> be great! First off, I had Win XP installed at one point, but
  >> received
  >> several errors off and on. The install process wasn't very smooth.
  >> Unfortunately I don't remember what all off those messages were (it
  >> seems so long ago). I do remember that Windows often said that it
  >> had
  >> recovered from a critical error. Windows also shut down several
  >> times
  >> "to prevent damage to the computer". One of these messages was:
  >>
 > <snip>
 >
  >> I don't have another hard drive or memory stick to test in the
  >> system,
  >> but I wonder if these could be the problem=3F ?
  >>
 > RAM. Inevitably in Shuttle XPCs, most errors like that are put down
 > to
 > cheap RAM.

I agree. I had the same error on my SN85G4 and it turned out to be a
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SnodArt

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:11 am
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Thanks for the responses. Do you think that it is just this one stick
that is a dud, or are you saying to go with a brand other that
Mushkin? Is Mushkin considered cheaper memory? Any recomendations for
another stick for the shuttle?
Thanks again.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:42 pm
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"SnodArt" <snodart.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Thanks for the responses. Do you think that it is just this one
 > stick
 > that is a dud, or are you saying to go with a brand other that
 > Mushkin? Is Mushkin considered cheaper memory? Any recomendations
 > for
 > another stick for the shuttle?
 > Thanks again.

I have never heard of mushkin personally so I can't comment on their
quality but I have for some time now only bought Corsair RAM due to
the high speed, high quality and never having one go bad, it is more
expensive than most but it's best not to scrimp on RAM because, next
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:47 am
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I noticed that on the support list for the SS51G my memory wasn't
listed.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.shuttle.com/hq/support/faq/supportlist2.asp?model=SB51G&vr=SB51G%20" target="_blank">http://www.shuttle.com/hq/support/faq/supportlist2.asp?model=SB51G&vr=SB51G%20</a>(FB51)&page=2

I think I am going to check out some new memory at newegg. I may spend
the extra and get a Corsair stick.
Thanks for the info. I will post the outcome.


 > I have never heard of mushkin personally so I can't comment on their
 > quality but I have for some time now only bought Corsair RAM due to
 > the high speed, high quality and never having one go bad, it is more
 > expensive than most but it's best not to scrimp on RAM because, next
 > to the CPU it is the heart of a system.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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