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Ken Hill

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:11 am
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Hi everyone:

I'm driving myself nuts over trying decide whether or not to go for an
LCD monitor or not. The main objects of my attention have been these
two choices: Samsung 191T and Sony SDM-HS93.

I have tried the 17" version of the Sony but I found that in the
1280x1024 native resolution, the text is just too small. I'm hoping the
19" version will solve that issue.

Just wondering if anyone had experience with either one or both of these
monitors? Best Buy appears to be blowing out the Samsung in favor of
the new model. I stopped by there tonight and they are offering it for
$699 with $150 rebate. That's $550 for a monitor that was selling for
$800 a few months ago.

My main applications are text-based using Windows XP but gaming is also
an issue. I didn't have any trouble with the 17" Sony with games but
I'm concerned by reports that the Samsung just plain sucks with any kind
of games.

I was also wondering if running the 191T in pure digital mode makes any
appreciable difference in quality. The Sony only has analog input.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Russ Panneton

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:46 am
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I bought a 191T Samsung 19" LCD to replace a CTX 17" CRT. The Samsung is very
nice at 1280x1024. For $550 it is a super bargain! I tried the 191T in DVI
and analog and found no noticeable difference. The DVI is perfect without
fiddling and the analog does require some fine tuning to make it nice so I use
the DVI because it's simpler.

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 01:11:26 GMT, Ken Hill <khillNO RemoveThis @SPAMcolumbus.rr.com>
wrote:

 >Hi everyone:
 >
 >I'm driving myself nuts over trying decide whether or not to go for an
 >LCD monitor or not. The main objects of my attention have been these
 >two choices: Samsung 191T and Sony SDM-HS93.
 >
 >I have tried the 17" version of the Sony but I found that in the
 >1280x1024 native resolution, the text is just too small. I'm hoping the
 >19" version will solve that issue.
 >
 >Just wondering if anyone had experience with either one or both of these
 >monitors? Best Buy appears to be blowing out the Samsung in favor of
 >the new model. I stopped by there tonight and they are offering it for
 >$699 with $150 rebate. That's $550 for a monitor that was selling for
 >$800 a few months ago.
 >
 >My main applications are text-based using Windows XP but gaming is also
 >an issue. I didn't have any trouble with the 17" Sony with games but
 >I'm concerned by reports that the Samsung just plain sucks with any kind
 >of games.
 >
 >I was also wondering if running the 191T in pure digital mode makes any
 >appreciable difference in quality. The Sony only has analog input.
 >
 >Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Nederland, CO "Too bad ignorance isn't painful"<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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none20

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:40 am
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Ken Hill <khillNO.RemoveThis@SPAMcolumbus.rr.com> wrote in
news:MPG.19ade6466abf51c6989697@news-server.columbus.rr.com:

 > Hi everyone:
 >
 > I'm driving myself nuts over trying decide whether or not to go for an
 > LCD monitor or not. The main objects of my attention have been these
 > two choices: Samsung 191T and Sony SDM-HS93.
 >

I'm in the nearly the same position. I was heavily leaning towards the
Sony. However several reviews on Amazon on this specific model was
disappointing. One reviewer said that he had to return *three* of these
LCDs because of the back light burning out on each one of them. The image
quality on SDM-HS93 is quite good but it seems that the quality of the
monitor itself may be questionable.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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J.Clarke

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:30 am
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 04:40:51 GMT
none.RemoveThis@nowhere.invalid wrote:

 > Ken Hill <khillNO.RemoveThis@SPAMcolumbus.rr.com> wrote in
 > news:MPG.19ade6466abf51c6989697@news-server.columbus.rr.com:
 >
  > > Hi everyone:
  > >
  > > I'm driving myself nuts over trying decide whether or not to go for
  > > an LCD monitor or not. The main objects of my attention have been
  > > these two choices: Samsung 191T and Sony SDM-HS93.
  > >
 >
 > I'm in the nearly the same position. I was heavily leaning towards the
 >
 > Sony. However several reviews on Amazon on this specific model was
 > disappointing. One reviewer said that he had to return *three* of
 > these LCDs because of the back light burning out on each one of them.
 > The image quality on SDM-HS93 is quite good but it seems that the
 > quality of the monitor itself may be questionable.

Sony's CRTs are pretty good, and their PDAs are very nice. Their other
computing products aren't very well regarded.

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Ken Hill

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:30 pm
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In article <Xns93DDDC8C96F4Dnone DeleteThis @68.6.19.6>, none DeleteThis @nowhere.invalid
says...
 >
 > I'm in the nearly the same position. I was heavily leaning towards the
 > Sony. However several reviews on Amazon on this specific model was
 > disappointing. One reviewer said that he had to return *three* of these
 > LCDs because of the back light burning out on each one of them. The image
 > quality on SDM-HS93 is quite good but it seems that the quality of the
 > monitor itself may be questionable.
 >
Well, I tried the 17" Sony for a few days and the image quality was
excellent so I have no qualms about the quality. If you get a
defective, take it back and get another one. My issue was more of the
size of the text running in 1280x1024 on the 17" screen. I'm used to
1024x768.

You have to take those Amazon reviews with a grain of salt (more like a
cowlick.) Many times, the reviewers have an axe to grind....<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Default4

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:13 am
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Ken Hill wrote:
 > Hi everyone:
 >
 > I'm driving myself nuts over trying decide whether or not to go for an
 > LCD monitor or not. The main objects of my attention have been these
 > two choices: Samsung 191T and Sony SDM-HS93.
 >
 > I have tried the 17" version of the Sony but I found that in the
 > 1280x1024 native resolution, the text is just too small. I'm hoping
 > the 19" version will solve that issue.
 >
 > Just wondering if anyone had experience with either one or both of
 > these monitors? Best Buy appears to be blowing out the Samsung in
 > favor of the new model. I stopped by there tonight and they are
 > offering it for $699 with $150 rebate. That's $550 for a monitor
 > that was selling for $800 a few months ago.
 >
 > My main applications are text-based using Windows XP but gaming is
 > also an issue. I didn't have any trouble with the 17" Sony with
 > games but I'm concerned by reports that the Samsung just plain sucks
 > with any kind of games.
 >
 > I was also wondering if running the 191T in pure digital mode makes
 > any appreciable difference in quality. The Sony only has analog
 > input.
 >
 > Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.


The 191T will defnitely ghost I know. As for the Sony, haven't tried it so
can't say.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Ken Hill

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 2:42 am
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In article <HK56ys.535.RemoveThis@bath.ac.uk>, user_sucking.RemoveThis@the_host.smooth says...
 >
 >
 > The 191T will defnitely ghost I know. As for the Sony, haven't tried it so
 > can't say.
 >
 >
I tried the Samsung after I posted the message and I wasn't very
impressed. The whites (as others have said) looked more like a cream
than white and I didn't care for that.

However, anyone who says that they can't tell the difference between the
Analog and DVI input to these monitors is smoking something. It is a
very big difference in quality in my eye.

BTW, can you define "ghost" for me?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 3:01 am
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 > I tried the Samsung after I posted the message and I wasn't very
 > impressed. The whites (as others have said) looked more like a cream
 > than white and I didn't care for that.

Yes, the picture quality wasn't too impressive for me either. The screen on
that display just isn't good enough. I used to have a Samsung 171S before
that (HD15 only) and I felt the quality was much better. The 171S was a TN
rather than a PVA of the 181/191T, probably reason why, sacrifising large
viewing angles.


 >
 > However, anyone who says that they can't tell the difference between
 > the Analog and DVI input to these monitors is smoking something. It
 > is a very big difference in quality in my eye.
 >

Yep, I too did notice a difference, however the differences were subtle. One
thing though, animations, video an games were smoother wwith analogue than
DVI - probably due to bandwidth limitations on DVI. This was tried on a
Radeon 8500.


 > BTW, can you define "ghost" for me?

Same as what is understood by everyone else. Very blurry fast motion in
video/DVD, severe lag times in games, video etc. It's a shame one has to put
up with it for such expensive equipment. Gone back to a lovely Trinitron for
less than half the price of the TFT, brand new!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:31 pm
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Ken,

I bought the 19inch Sony awhile ago and ended up returning it because
all my first person shooter games looked like crap. When you moved
the picture became blurry. I don't know if it was a setting problem or
the monitor it's self. I didn't spend much time trying to configure
it. I have a GeForce FX 5200 with 256 megs of DRAM so I don't think
it's the graphics card. It might have something to do with the
settings on the graphics card. If someone knows how to fix this I
would buy the monitor again.

Ken Hill <khillNO.DeleteThis@SPAMcolumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.19ade6466abf51c6989697.DeleteThis@news-server.columbus.rr.com>...
 > Hi everyone:
 >
 > I'm driving myself nuts over trying decide whether or not to go for an
 > LCD monitor or not. The main objects of my attention have been these
 > two choices: Samsung 191T and Sony SDM-HS93.
 >
 > I have tried the 17" version of the Sony but I found that in the
 > 1280x1024 native resolution, the text is just too small. I'm hoping the
 > 19" version will solve that issue.
 >
 > Just wondering if anyone had experience with either one or both of these
 > monitors? Best Buy appears to be blowing out the Samsung in favor of
 > the new model. I stopped by there tonight and they are offering it for
 > $699 with $150 rebate. That's $550 for a monitor that was selling for
 > $800 a few months ago.
 >
 > My main applications are text-based using Windows XP but gaming is also
 > an issue. I didn't have any trouble with the 17" Sony with games but
 > I'm concerned by reports that the Samsung just plain sucks with any kind
 > of games.
 >
 > I was also wondering if running the 191T in pure digital mode makes any
 > appreciable difference in quality. The Sony only has analog input.
 >
 > Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:59 am
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Brent wrote:
 > Ken,
 >
 > I bought the 19inch Sony awhile ago and ended up returning it because
 > all my first person shooter games looked like crap. When you moved
 > the picture became blurry. I don't know if it was a setting problem or
 > the monitor it's self. I didn't spend much time trying to configure
 > it. I have a GeForce FX 5200 with 256 megs of DRAM so I don't think
 > it's the graphics card. It might have something to do with the
 > settings on the graphics card. If someone knows how to fix this I
 > would buy the monitor again.

It's not the graphics card.
The problem is slow panel response time. It's 30ms for the Sony and 25ms for
the Samsung. I know the Samsung definitely looks bad with fast motion
graphics after having tried it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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