Security Flaw in MSI Motherboard

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"Bill" <spamtrap.DeleteThis@tinlc.lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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> In article <13ih14ck095rc88.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>, joe_hesse.DeleteThis@actcx.com
> says...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an MSI P35 Neo F motherboard. The AMI BIOS has been changed by
>> MSI
>> so that a user password can not be set. A setup password can be set,
>> just
>> no user password.
>>
>> Without a user password, someone could boot from a Linux CD and access
>> Windows or other partitions on the hard drive. A user password is the
>> first
>> line of defense against this. For unknown reasons, MSI has decided to
>> remove the user password feature.
>>
>> Joe Hesse
>>
>>
>>
>
> Your user password lasts about as long as it takes somebody to open
> the cover and reset your cmos. If you're worried about somebody
> accessing your hard drive; encrypt it.
>
> Bill

Bill,

Thank you for the reply.

I know you can open the cover and reset the cmos. However, if you secure
the cover with a lock you can tell that it has been broken into.
I only want the level of protection that prevents some curious person
putting a bootable CD or USB stick and mucking around with my computer.

I think that MSI made a bad decision by removing user passwords; after all,
you don't have to use it if it doesn't fit your need.

Regards,
Joe
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"Strobe" <Strobe.DeleteThis@nyc.Beep!Beep!.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:35:06 -0500, "Joe Hesse" <joe_hesse.DeleteThis@actcx.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have an MSI P35 Neo F motherboard. The AMI BIOS has been changed by MSI
>>so that a user password can not be set. A setup password can be set, just
>>no user password.
>>
>>Without a user password, someone could boot from a Linux CD and access
>>Windows or other partitions on the hard drive. A user password is the
>>first
>>line of defense against this. For unknown reasons, MSI has decided to
>>remove the user password feature.
>
> That's not a problem.
> Use the password-protected set-up to allow booting ONLY from your HDD.

Thank you for the reply.

If I password the BIOS setup and allow booting only from the HDD, then I
have to alter the boot options whenever I want to boot from a CD. If I
forget to change it back my computer is vulnerable to casual users. With a
user password permanently set, its a no brainer for me. I always have to
enter the short password to start my computer and, its my personal choice to
be able to boot from a CD, especially since I try different Linux
distributions.

I think MSI made a mistake by removing this feature. After all, you don't
have to use it if it doesn't meet your computing needs.

I'm also aware of the fact that you can open the case and reset the CMOS.
If your case has a lock on it you can easily see if your case has been
opened without your permission.

Regards,
Joe
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Yeah I heard your gripe the first time you posted it....

Paranoia or OCD?

Simple way is not to upgrade to the new bios unless you absolutely need some
new fix or feature.


:O)

"Joe Hesse" <joe_hesse.TakeThisOut@actcx.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have an MSI P35 Neo F motherboard. The AMI BIOS has been changed by MSI
> so that a user password can not be set. A setup password can be set, just
> no user password.
>
> Without a user password, someone could boot from a Linux CD and access
> Windows or other partitions on the hard drive. A user password is the
> first line of defense against this. For unknown reasons, MSI has decided
> to remove the user password feature.
>
> Joe Hesse
>
 >> Stay informed about: Security Flaw in MSI Motherboard 

Hi,

Thank you for your honest reply. I always worry about being paranoid and/or
having OCD. That is the reason I posted my comment; I wanted some feedback.

The bios that came with my motherboard did not have the ability to set user
passwords. I am hoping that MSI will "see the light" and fix it in future
bios releases.

So far you are the only one who seems to feel that this is not an issue. I
am hoping some others will reply saying I am crazy or they agree with me.

Thanks,
Joe

P.S.
I top posted since this is how you replied.

I have not received
"El Kapitano" <admin.DeleteThis@crammit.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah I heard your gripe the first time you posted it....
>
> Paranoia or OCD?
>
> Simple way is not to upgrade to the new bios unless you absolutely need
> some new fix or feature.
>
>
> :O)
>
> "Joe Hesse" <joe_hesse.DeleteThis@actcx.com> wrote in message
> news:13ih14ck095rc88@corp.supernews.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an MSI P35 Neo F motherboard. The AMI BIOS has been changed by
>> MSI so that a user password can not be set. A setup password can be set,
>> just no user password.
>>
>> Without a user password, someone could boot from a Linux CD and access
>> Windows or other partitions on the hard drive. A user password is the
>> first line of defense against this. For unknown reasons, MSI has decided
>> to remove the user password feature.
>>
>> Joe Hesse
>>
>
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"Joe Hesse" <joe_hesse DeleteThis @actcx.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Thank you for your honest reply. I always worry about being paranoid
> and/or having OCD. That is the reason I posted my comment; I wanted some
> feedback.
>
> The bios that came with my motherboard did not have the ability to set
> user passwords. I am hoping that MSI will "see the light" and fix it in
> future bios releases.
>
> So far you are the only one who seems to feel that this is not an issue.
> I am hoping some others will reply saying I am crazy or they agree with
> me.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> P.S.
> I top posted since this is how you replied.
>
> I have not received
> "El Kapitano" <admin DeleteThis @crammit.com> wrote in message
> news:HCnXi.16980$6v.6718@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> Yeah I heard your gripe the first time you posted it....
>>
>> Paranoia or OCD?
>>
>> Simple way is not to upgrade to the new bios unless you absolutely need
>> some new fix or feature.
>>
>>
>> :O)
>>
>> "Joe Hesse" <joe_hesse DeleteThis @actcx.com> wrote in message
>> news:13ih14ck095rc88@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have an MSI P35 Neo F motherboard. The AMI BIOS has been changed by
>>> MSI so that a user password can not be set. A setup password can be
>>> set, just no user password.
>>>
>>> Without a user password, someone could boot from a Linux CD and access
>>> Windows or other partitions on the hard drive. A user password is the
>>> first line of defense against this. For unknown reasons, MSI has
>>> decided to remove the user password feature.
>>>
>>> Joe Hesse
>>>
>>
>
>

You are crazy!

I agree with you!
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"Joe Hesse" <joe_hesse RemoveThis @actcx.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Thank you for your honest reply. I always worry about being paranoid
> and/or having OCD. That is the reason I posted my comment; I wanted some
> feedback.
>
> The bios that came with my motherboard did not have the ability to set
> user passwords. I am hoping that MSI will "see the light" and fix it in
> future bios releases.
>
> So far you are the only one who seems to feel that this is not an issue.
> I am hoping some others will reply saying I am crazy or they agree with
> me.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> P.S.
> I top posted since this is how you replied.
>
> I have not received
> "El Kapitano" <admin RemoveThis @crammit.com> wrote in message
> news:HCnXi.16980$6v.6718@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> Yeah I heard your gripe the first time you posted it....
>>
>> Paranoia or OCD?
>>
>> Simple way is not to upgrade to the new bios unless you absolutely need
>> some new fix or feature.
>>
>>
>> :O)
>>
>> "Joe Hesse" <joe_hesse RemoveThis @actcx.com> wrote in message
>> news:13ih14ck095rc88@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have an MSI P35 Neo F motherboard. The AMI BIOS has been changed by
>>> MSI so that a user password can not be set. A setup password can be
>>> set, just no user password.
>>>
>>> Without a user password, someone could boot from a Linux CD and access
>>> Windows or other partitions on the hard drive. A user password is the
>>> first line of defense against this. For unknown reasons, MSI has
>>> decided to remove the user password feature.
>>>
>>> Joe Hesse
>>>
>>
>
>
To worry about having OCD or being paranoid must surely be a sign of ones
awareness of ones tendencies toward such?

You're cuckoo mate. :O)


Regards,

Andy H
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