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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:12 am
Post subject: Software to copy an entire disk to another ?
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Hello !
An hard disk partition table is corrupted and one of its partitions is
no longer accessible/visible.
Before using a partition recovery tool, I'd like to make a copy of this
entire disk - including the areas which are now in "twilight zone".
Most, if not all, disk imaging/cloning softwares I know will
image/clone existing partitions - which would obviously exclude the
unaccessible partition of the corrupted disk.
Can you recommend a software to make an exact bit-per-bit copy of the
entire disk ?
Thanks
PS: while on the subject, any experience/opinion on partition recovery
softwares such as Acronis Disk Director or Active@ Partition Recovery ? |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:12 am
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On Jan 10, 12:12 pm, Louis <not_va....DeleteThis@spam.com> wrote:
> Hello !
>
> An hard disk partition table is corrupted and one of its partitions is
> no longer accessible/visible.
>
> Before using a partition recovery tool, I'd like to make a copy of this
> entire disk - including the areas which are now in "twilight zone".
>
> Most, if not all, disk imaging/cloning softwares I know will
> image/clone existing partitions - which would obviously exclude the
> unaccessible partition of the corrupted disk.
>
> Can you recommend a software to make an exact bit-per-bit copy of the
> entire disk ?
>
> Thanks
>
> PS: while on the subject, any experience/opinion on partition recovery
> softwares such as Acronis Disk Director or Active@ Partition Recovery ?
I've found Partition Table Doctor works
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:06 am
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Previously Louis <not_valid DeleteThis @spam.com> wrote:
> Hello !
> An hard disk partition table is corrupted and one of its partitions is
> no longer accessible/visible.
> Before using a partition recovery tool, I'd like to make a copy of this
> entire disk - including the areas which are now in "twilight zone".
> Most, if not all, disk imaging/cloning softwares I know will
> image/clone existing partitions - which would obviously exclude the
> unaccessible partition of the corrupted disk.
> Can you recommend a software to make an exact bit-per-bit copy of the
> entire disk ?
> Thanks
> PS: while on the subject, any experience/opinion on partition recovery
> softwares such as Acronis Disk Director or Active@ Partition Recovery ?
dd_rescue under Linux, e.g. from a Knoppix Linux CD. Similar
functionality to dd, but you get a progress indicator.
Comparison for same contents can be done with the standard
utility "cmp" under Linux, just use the disk device
special files as input, e.g. "cmp /dev/sda /dev/sdb".
Arno >> Stay informed about: Software to copy an entire disk to another ? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:06 am
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:06 am
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Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:
>> Before using a partition recovery tool, I'd like to make a copy of
>> this entire disk - including the areas which are now in "twilight zone".
>
> Under Linux, you could use dd.
>
And you should copy/dd the entire disk to another disk A, and then
attempt recovery on disk A rather than original. DO NOT touch/write
anything to the original (watch out for those automatic stuff).
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:44 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:23 pm
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Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote in news:47861561_1@rain.i-cable.com
> Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:
> > > Before using a partition recovery tool, I'd like to make a copy of
> > > this entire disk - including the areas which are now in "twilight zone".
> >
> > Under Linux, you could use dd.
> >
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> And you should copy/dd the entire disk to another disk A, and then
> attempt recovery on disk A rather than original. DO NOT touch/write
> anything to the original (watch out for those automatic stuff).
Moron. >> Stay informed about: Software to copy an entire disk to another ? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:03 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:03 pm
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Louis <not_valid.DeleteThis@spam.com> wrote
> An hard disk partition table is corrupted and one of its partitions is no longer accessible/visible.
> Before using a partition recovery tool, I'd like to make a copy of this entire disk - including the areas which are
> now in "twilight zone".
> Most, if not all, disk imaging/cloning softwares I know will
> image/clone existing partitions - which would obviously exclude the unaccessible partition of the corrupted disk.
> Can you recommend a software to make an exact bit-per-bit copy of the entire disk ?
The most important consideration is whether the drive is dying and thats whats produced
the problem or whether its purely a software problem thats made that partition invisible.
The best way to see if the drive is fine is with the Everest SMART report.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
If the drive is fine, you can use any of the major imagers like True Image
or Ghost and image the entire physical drive at the sector level.
You can also use forensic cloners like CloneDisk
http://invircible.com/resq.php
> PS: while on the subject, any experience/opinion on partition recovery
> softwares such as Acronis Disk Director or Active@ Partition Recovery ?
I prefer Easy Recovery Pro myself, but it isnt cheap if you have pay for it. >> Stay informed about: Software to copy an entire disk to another ? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:03 pm
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On Jan 10, 1:08 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Louis <not_va....RemoveThis@spam.com> wrote
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> > An hard disk partition table is corrupted and one of its partitions is no longer accessible/visible.
> > Before using a partition recovery tool, I'd like to make a copy of this entire disk - including the areas which are
> > now in "twilight zone".
> > Most, if not all, disk imaging/cloning softwares I know will
> > image/clone existing partitions - which would obviously exclude the unaccessible partition of the corrupted disk.
> > Can you recommend a software to make an exact bit-per-bit copy of the entire disk ?
>
> The most important consideration is whether the drive is dying and thats whats produced
> the problem or whether its purely a software problem thats made that partition invisible.
> The best way to see if the drive is fine is with the Everest SMART report.http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
>
> If the drive is fine, you can use any of the major imagers like True Image
> or Ghost and image the entire physical drive at the sector level.
>
> You can also use forensic cloners like CloneDiskhttp://invircible.com/resq..php
>
> > PS: while on the subject, any experience/opinion on partition recovery
> > softwares such as Acronis Disk Director or Active@ Partition Recovery ?
>
> I prefer Easy Recovery Pro myself, but it isnt cheap if you have pay for it.
The other thing to watch out for, is bad sectors....I have used ghost
and other proggies and have had some issue with that in the past. I do
not know if the other version works better or not...... >> Stay informed about: Software to copy an entire disk to another ? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:03 pm
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Thanks for your reply,
> If the drive is fine, you can use any of the major imagers like True Image
> or Ghost and image the entire physical drive at the sector level.
The drive is fine.
Are you referring to a specific version of Acronis ? I looked at True
Image Workstation version 8 and True Image Home version 10 and I can't
find any indication that imaging an entire disk would include the non
partitionned disk areas. >> Stay informed about: Software to copy an entire disk to another ? |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:03 pm
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Louis <not_valid DeleteThis @spam.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your reply,
>> If the drive is fine, you can use any of the major imagers like True
>> Image or Ghost and image the entire physical drive at the sector level.
> The drive is fine.
How did you decide that ? You cant just go on the OKs in the Everest SMART report.
> Are you referring to a specific version of Acronis ?
Yeah, sorry, that showed up with 11 from memory.
> I looked at True Image Workstation version 8 and True Image Home version 10 and I can't find any indication that
> imaging an entire disk would include the non partitionned disk areas.
Its a tick box with disk and partition backups with 11. >> Stay informed about: Software to copy an entire disk to another ? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:01 pm
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Previously Man-wai Chang ToDie <toylet.toylet.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:
>>> Before using a partition recovery tool, I'd like to make a copy of
>>> this entire disk - including the areas which are now in "twilight zone".
>>
>> Under Linux, you could use dd.
>>
> And you should copy/dd the entire disk to another disk A, and then
> attempt recovery on disk A rather than original. DO NOT touch/write
> anything to the original (watch out for those automatic stuff).
Exactly. If you are very careful, you make a second copy as well, that
you do not touch.
Arno
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> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
> /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.13
> ^ ^ 20:52:01 up 4:05 0 users load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00
> ? ? (CSSA):
> http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa/ >> Stay informed about: Software to copy an entire disk to another ? |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:01 pm
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Previously amj rescue repair co 01 DeleteThis @gmail.com <amjrescuerepairco01 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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> The other thing to watch out for, is bad sectors....I have used ghost
> and other proggies and have had some issue with that in the past. I do
> not know if the other version works better or not......
That is one of the reasons why I recommend dd_rescue indstead of
dd. dd_rescue can deal with defect sectors, as this was its design
motivation.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:22 am
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