Strange behaviour since a few days with Q6600/8800GTX system

In article <H30sj.51937$tA5.13985@newsfet18.ams>,
Rene <invalid.TakeThisOut@invalid.com> wrote:

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>Have You tried playing the games without the computer case closed and a big
>fan blowing at the internals (for testing purposes I mean)? The things You
>are describing make me think of the card getting a bit too hot. Perhaps dust
>has cluttered up in Your computer? Bad airflow inside the case? Warm weather
>outside (probably only of importance during this time of year when You're on
>the southern hemisphere )?

The stuff is mounted in an Antec P182. I checked the temperatures with
Everest, and the card is around 55-65 degrees, even when loaded. I also
hear the fan of the 8800GTX spin up.

Just tried running the 'Froggy' demo from NVidia, and that also crashed
after about an half hour.

If this is temperature related, it doesn't show on the monitoring tools.

Regards, Patrick.
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"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in
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> The stuff is mounted in an Antec P182. I checked the temperatures with
> Everest, and the card is around 55-65 degrees, even when loaded. I also
> hear the fan of the 8800GTX spin up.

How are you checking temps "when loaded"? Do you have Everest running on a
2nd monitor, alt-tabbing back and forth, or logging to a text file?

> Just tried running the 'Froggy' demo from NVidia, and that also crashed
> after about an half hour.
>
> If this is temperature related, it doesn't show on the monitoring tools.

There are other components on your card that can heat up, such as the RAM or
voltage regulator modules. These may not show up in a "simple" monitoring
tool such as Everest.

How are the CPU temps with a stress utility such as Toast? (Run 4 instances
of Toast to load up all four cores.) Are you overclocking the Q6600?

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In article <w_KdnefBT8XNQS3anZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d RemoveThis @giganews.com>,
First of One <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1> wrote:
>"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn RemoveThis @NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in
>message news:ac94f$47b09253$82a1d3bf$506@news1.tudelft.nl...
>> The stuff is mounted in an Antec P182. I checked the temperatures with
>> Everest, and the card is around 55-65 degrees, even when loaded. I also
>> hear the fan of the 8800GTX spin up.
>
>How are you checking temps "when loaded"? Do you have Everest running on a
>2nd monitor, alt-tabbing back and forth, or logging to a text file?

Well, it seems the temperatures dropped off faster than I thought. I
finally decided on using the 'Froggy' demo, combined with the nTune
monitor app: if you press the Windows-key while Froggy runs, you get to
see the windows task bar, let Froggy run in the background, and show the
nTune Monitor window on top of that.

The GPU1 temperature, when running Froggy for a while, evens out around 80
deg C. After about 0.5 to 1.5 hours of 'Froggy' the system starts to
'stutter'. The current windows clock is actually updated, the temperature
of GPU1 drops down a bit (to ~73-75 deg C), and if I let it 'stutter' on
like that, it usually ends with a BSOD error.

>There are other components on your card that can heat up, such as the RAM or
>voltage regulator modules. These may not show up in a "simple" monitoring
>tool such as Everest.

I am aware there are only a few sensors on an 8800GTX, and I'm currently
assuming something on the card not near any of those sensors is
overheating. Perhaps something not making a 100% connection with the
heat-sink? I can't think of any other problems which takes between 0.5 -
1.5 hours of heavy load to show up.

>How are the CPU temps with a stress utility such as Toast? (Run 4 instances
>of Toast to load up all four cores.) Are you overclocking the Q6600?

The system ran (and still runs) SetBOINC 24/7, and does that comfortably.
All 4 cores are each utilized for 100% running that; I suppose that's as
good a test as Toast? It's only when heavy 3D work is being done that the
system goes down. Games are not the most handy tools to check this with,
so I decided on a demo of NVidia, Froggy, in a non-interactive mode (Flyby
2) to stress the GPU.

Oh, and as I said in my OP, I do not overclock the Q6600. Neither do I
overclock the 8800GTX.

I'll contact the shop I got it from, and hope to pick up a loaner this
afternoon. I'll plop that in, and if it's capable of some 3D work (I'm not
expecting another 8800 class card as the loader unfortunately) I'll try to
stress-test that to see if the system still goes down. If that solves it,
the 8800GTX will be returned to the shop, and I suppose be RMA-ed.

Regards, Patrick.
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Patrick Vervoorn wrote:

> In almost all case, the nv4_disp is faulted. Sometimes via a BSOD (and a
> report after rebooting), the most recent one a requester which popped up,
> with the title: "Windows Display Driver Stopped Resonding", text: "The
> nv4_disp display driver has stopped working normally. Save your work ...
> etc".

I also have this happen occasionally with a Q6600 and 4GB of RAM installed.
I only have an 7600GS for now and just play Battlefield 2, running a BF2 server
concurrently on the same machine. I wonder if pulling 2GB or setting the
processor affinity to a single core in task manager's processes tab might not
be a worthwhile experiment.
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In article <gCDtj.6546$kz3.3204@trndny03>, Fishface <invalid.DeleteThis@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>Patrick Vervoorn wrote:
>
>> In almost all case, the nv4_disp is faulted. Sometimes via a BSOD (and a
>> report after rebooting), the most recent one a requester which popped up,
>> with the title: "Windows Display Driver Stopped Resonding", text: "The
>> nv4_disp display driver has stopped working normally. Save your work ...
>> etc".
>
>I also have this happen occasionally with a Q6600 and 4GB of RAM installed.
>I only have an 7600GS for now and just play Battlefield 2, running a BF2 server
>concurrently on the same machine. I wonder if pulling 2GB or setting the
>processor affinity to a single core in task manager's processes tab might not
>be a worthwhile experiment.

The machine had this behaviour in applications/games which were previously
working perfectly. I had also already pulled 2GB out, but that didn't
change anything.

Anyway, the shop I brought it back to tested everything, and they
concluded the 8800GTX was fine, but the 680i mainboard was having serious
problems. It will be RMAed, and I'm trying to get something else back
if/when possible (thinking of getting an Intel X38 based board). We'll see
what's possible/what happens...

Regards, Patrick.
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In article <gCDtj.6546$kz3.3204@trndny03>, "Fishface" <invalid.TakeThisOut@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>Patrick Vervoorn wrote:
>
>> In almost all case, the nv4_disp is faulted. Sometimes via a BSOD (and a
>> report after rebooting), the most recent one a requester which popped up,
>> with the title: "Windows Display Driver Stopped Resonding", text: "The
>> nv4_disp display driver has stopped working normally. Save your work ...
>> etc".
>
>I also have this happen occasionally with a Q6600 and 4GB of RAM installed.
>I only have an 7600GS for now and just play Battlefield 2, running a BF2 server
>concurrently on the same machine. I wonder if pulling 2GB or setting the
>processor affinity to a single core in task manager's processes tab might not
>be a worthwhile experiment.
>
>
>
>
Double check to make sure your little cooling fan on the card hasnt melted. I
had my 7600GS fan melt down into a glob due to it freezing up.
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GMAN wrote:

> Double check to make sure your little cooling fan on the card hasnt melted.
> I had my 7600GS fan melt down into a glob due to it freezing up.

Well, it is a fanless card, but it has a thin 80mm fan in the P180 blowing
ducted air right on it.
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