Trouble with "new" 8RDA3+

"Lee M." <lmacmil.TakeThisOut@forget_it.com> wrote in message
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> After my mobo swap yesterday, everything seemed ok. Today I am having
> trouble booting into Windows XP. I just had to restart about 5 times to
> complete the boot process. It hangs on the BIOS opening screen.
> Sometimes everything appears as normal, sometimes not everything displays
> (e.g., the drives info). Sometimes I can hit delete and get into the BIOS
> setup, other times the keyboard doesn't respond and I have to do the
> ctrl-alt-del to restart. Since this never happened with the old 8KHA+, I
> have to assume it's the mobo but once up and running, everything is fine.
>
> Fyi, this is rev 3.3 of the mobo PCB and the latest BIOS (7-29-04). I
> don't have any non-standard hardware.
>
> Any ideas out there? Thanks.
>
>
>
I'm going back to your original post on this board swap, and that second 4
pin power connector on the 8RDA3+.
Modern motherboards and PSU's use that second connector for CPU power.
Although you seem to be able to get your machine to run *sometimes*, I'd be
trying a different PSU *with* a separate 4 pin connector for the
motherboard. BTW, the separate 4 pin connector *is not* the same as the
extra 4 pins that can be split away from a modern 24 pin motherboard
connector. That split simply allows a new PSU to be used with older
motherboards that have a 20 pin connector.
I realize that it may not be practical for you to try a different PSU, but I
believe that connector is there for a reason. If you have a local dealer,
you may be able to try a new PSU, then return it if it doesn't help.
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"Graham W" <graham.RemoveThis@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote in message
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>
> Lee M. wrote:
>> After my mobo swap yesterday, everything seemed ok. Today I am having
>> trouble booting into Windows XP. I just had to restart about 5 times to
>> complete the boot process. It hangs on the BIOS opening screen.
>> Sometimes everything appears as normal, sometimes not everything
>> displays (e.g., the drives info). Sometimes I can hit delete and get
>> into the BIOS setup, other times the keyboard doesn't respond and I
>> have to do the ctrl-alt-del to restart. Since this never happened with
>> the old 8KHA+, I have to assume it's the mobo but once up and running,
>> everything is fine.
>>
>> Fyi, this is rev 3.3 of the mobo PCB and the latest BIOS (7-29-04). I
>> don't have any non-standard hardware.
>>
>> Any ideas out there? Thanks.
>
> Down at the bottom of the main start up BIOS screen where the drives
> log-in,
> there is a display of voltages. temps and fanspeeds. Are any showing in
> red?
>

Only one fan speed indicator but I think that's as much due to the sensor as
anything because the reading fluctuates in motherboard monitor also. If the
hard drive wasn't almost new (<6 months old) I'd suspect that because it
sounds a little funny but it could just be a resonance from the case.
Replaced the Athlon 1800+ with a 2700+ today and it took 2 tries to boot but
once it did, runs fine.
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"Peter van der Goes" <pvdg.RemoveThis@toadstool.edu> wrote in message
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> "Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com> wrote in message
> news:eJadnVA_ON8a1xTbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> After my mobo swap yesterday, everything seemed ok. Today I am having
>> trouble booting into Windows XP. I just had to restart about 5 times to
>> complete the boot process. It hangs on the BIOS opening screen.
>> Sometimes everything appears as normal, sometimes not everything displays
>> (e.g., the drives info). Sometimes I can hit delete and get into the
>> BIOS setup, other times the keyboard doesn't respond and I have to do the
>> ctrl-alt-del to restart. Since this never happened with the old 8KHA+, I
>> have to assume it's the mobo but once up and running, everything is fine.
>>
>> Fyi, this is rev 3.3 of the mobo PCB and the latest BIOS (7-29-04). I
>> don't have any non-standard hardware.
>>
>> Any ideas out there? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
> I'm going back to your original post on this board swap, and that second 4
> pin power connector on the 8RDA3+.
> Modern motherboards and PSU's use that second connector for CPU power.
> Although you seem to be able to get your machine to run *sometimes*, I'd
> be trying a different PSU *with* a separate 4 pin connector for the
> motherboard. BTW, the separate 4 pin connector *is not* the same as the
> extra 4 pins that can be split away from a modern 24 pin motherboard
> connector. That split simply allows a new PSU to be used with older
> motherboards that have a 20 pin connector.
> I realize that it may not be practical for you to try a different PSU, but
> I believe that connector is there for a reason. If you have a local
> dealer, you may be able to try a new PSU, then return it if it doesn't
> help.
>
>
My Rosewill 400 PSU does have a separate 4 pin connector with two 12v lines
and two grounds. I will have to look at my other PC's PSU and see if that
has one also. If so I may try the swap. The fact that it freezes on the
BIOS boot screen would seem to eliminate the hard drive as the problem,
wouldn't it?
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"Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com> wrote in message
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> My Rosewill 400 PSU does have a separate 4 pin connector with two 12v
> lines and two grounds. I will have to look at my other PC's PSU and see
> if that has one also. If so I may try the swap. The fact that it freezes
> on the BIOS boot screen would seem to eliminate the hard drive as the
> problem, wouldn't it?
>
To reinforce what I told you, read this:

http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26212

I've had failure to fully POST (frozen boot screen) issues that were solved
by PSU replacement. Other failure to POST issues were cured by clearing
CMOS.
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"Peter van der Goes" <pvdg.DeleteThis@toadstool.edu> wrote in message
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> "Lee M." <lmacmil.DeleteThis@forget_it.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> My Rosewill 400 PSU does have a separate 4 pin connector with two 12v
>> lines and two grounds. I will have to look at my other PC's PSU and see
>> if that has one also. If so I may try the swap. The fact that it
>> freezes on the BIOS boot screen would seem to eliminate the hard drive as
>> the problem, wouldn't it?
>>
> To reinforce what I told you, read this:
>
> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26212
>
> I've had failure to fully POST (frozen boot screen) issues that were
> solved by PSU replacement. Other failure to POST issues were cured by
> clearing CMOS.
>
I will try the CMOS clear first since that's easy. I do have the correct
4-pin connector connected properly. It is keyed (unlike the other 4-pin
connector). I suppose it's possible that my power supply isn't up to snuff
even though it is new and allegedly 400 watts.

I've just noticed something else when I fired up the nVidia system utility:
the memory voltage is at 2.73 which shows up as red on the graph. Next time
I reboot I will have to manually clock that down. I know I didn't change
anything.

Thanks for you continued assistance. We'll get this figured out yet. One
of these days I'm going to buy a brand name PC, fully assembled and tested
and forgot all this fussing with the home built units
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