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Dazza

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:20 am
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Below is a copy of an email I sent to Umart regarding some components I
intend to buy for my new system.
Further below is their reply, which didn't seem to answer any of the
questions I asked (well, all but one)
It seems they might be reluctant to detail freight & other costs prior to
purchase?
I find it really annoying to have asked seemingly simple questions to get
such a lame reponse!

Has anyone got any positive or negative dealings with Umart they care to
share with me before I spend almost $3k with them?

(BTW, any comments on the system?)

Email as sent to sales Manager.............


Hi,

I have a few questions regarding an order I wish to place with you.
I intend to purchase the components for a complete system.

How much is the freight to the NSW Central Coast (Post Code 2263)?
Does the freight charge include insurance?
Do you offer a build/assembly service for the components I intend to buy, if
yes, cost?

I am after the Intel E8400 CPU which seems out of stock in your shop, can
you provide an accurate
time for delivery, or are you able to transfer one from another of your
shops to complete this order?


Thanking you in advance


XXXXXXX XXXXXXX (omitted for obvious reasons)
XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX

Product Quantity Price Gst Total
Microsoft Windows XP PRO (OEM) $219.00 $19.91 $219.00
Panasonic 1.44 Floppy(black) $15.00 $1.36 $15.00
Samsung 400G 7200RPM SATAII $105.00 $9.55 $105.00
Samsung 22 226BW Wide TFT Monitor - Black 2ms Digital / Analog Interf
$399.00 $36.27 $399.00
Antec 850W TruePower Quattro ATX & EPS 12V Power Supply, Modular Cable
$270.00 $24.55 $270.00
Antec P182 Performance One Black ATX Mid Tower - NO PSU $195.00
$17.73 $195.00
Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse USB $99.00 $9.00 $99.00
Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 X38 1600MHz FSB DDR2-1066MHz 2 x PCI Express x16 S
$344.00 $31.27 $344.00
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D 2GB $219.00 $19.91 $219.00
Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Refresh $99.00 $9.00 $99.00
Gigabyte NX8800GT 512MB DDR3 PCIEx16 HDCP 2xDVI-I HDTV $359.00
$32.64 $359.00
LG H20NS10 SATA 20X+- Super Multi DVD Rewriter Black with Software
$39.00 $7.09 $78.00
Intel ATX E8400 CORE 2 DUO /3.0GHz/6MB/1333FSB/LGA775 $299.00
$27.18 $299.00
Total $245.45 $2700.00



And the reply..........


hi,

the cost is depend on the size and the weight and the location
yes, the freight charge include insurance
yes, we do offer a system build,

if you need anyinformation please feel free to contact our sales staff so we
can help you 33693928



Kind Regards
Andrew

All prices quoted are for the Internet cash price. To pay using Visa,
Mastercard or Bank Card is a 3% surcharge. Payments via EFTPOS, Direct
deposit, BPAY and Cheque are considered to be cash.

OPENING HOURS
Mon-Friday : 9am-5pm
Saturday 9am-4pm

Open late night Thursday for pick up only until 8pm

Not open Sundays

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:21 am
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"Dazza" <nospam.dt_clancy.nospam.RemoveThis@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Below is a copy of an email I sent to Umart regarding some components I
> intend to buy for my new system.
> Further below is their reply, which didn't seem to answer any of the
> questions I asked (well, all but one)
> It seems they might be reluctant to detail freight & other costs prior to
> purchase?
> I find it really annoying to have asked seemingly simple questions to get
> such a lame reponse!
>
> Has anyone got any positive or negative dealings with Umart they care to
> share with me before I spend almost $3k with them?
>
> (BTW, any comments on the system?)
>
> Email as sent to sales Manager.............
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a few questions regarding an order I wish to place with you.
> I intend to purchase the components for a complete system.
>
> How much is the freight to the NSW Central Coast (Post Code 2263)?
> Does the freight charge include insurance?
> Do you offer a build/assembly service for the components I intend to buy,
> if yes, cost?
>
> I am after the Intel E8400 CPU which seems out of stock in your shop, can
> you provide an accurate
> time for delivery, or are you able to transfer one from another of your
> shops to complete this order?
>
>
> Thanking you in advance
>
>
> XXXXXXX XXXXXXX (omitted for obvious reasons)
> XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX
>
> Product Quantity Price Gst Total
> Microsoft Windows XP PRO (OEM) $219.00 $19.91 $219.00
> Panasonic 1.44 Floppy(black) $15.00 $1.36 $15.00
> Samsung 400G 7200RPM SATAII $105.00 $9.55 $105.00
> Samsung 22 226BW Wide TFT Monitor - Black 2ms Digital / Analog Interf
> $399.00 $36.27 $399.00
> Antec 850W TruePower Quattro ATX & EPS 12V Power Supply, Modular
> Cable $270.00 $24.55 $270.00
> Antec P182 Performance One Black ATX Mid Tower - NO PSU $195.00
> $17.73 $195.00
> Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse USB $99.00 $9.00 $99.00
> Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 X38 1600MHz FSB DDR2-1066MHz 2 x PCI Express x16
> S $344.00 $31.27 $344.00
> Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D 2GB $219.00 $19.91 $219.00
> Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Refresh $99.00 $9.00 $99.00
> Gigabyte NX8800GT 512MB DDR3 PCIEx16 HDCP 2xDVI-I HDTV $359.00
> $32.64 $359.00
> LG H20NS10 SATA 20X+- Super Multi DVD Rewriter Black with Software
> $39.00 $7.09 $78.00
> Intel ATX E8400 CORE 2 DUO /3.0GHz/6MB/1333FSB/LGA775 $299.00
> $27.18 $299.00
> Total $245.45 $2700.00
>
>
>
> And the reply..........
>
>
> hi,
>
> the cost is depend on the size and the weight and the location
> yes, the freight charge include insurance
> yes, we do offer a system build,
>
> if you need anyinformation please feel free to contact our sales staff so
> we can help you 33693928
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Andrew
>
> All prices quoted are for the Internet cash price. To pay using Visa,
> Mastercard or Bank Card is a 3% surcharge. Payments via EFTPOS, Direct
> deposit, BPAY and Cheque are considered to be cash.
>
> OPENING HOURS
> Mon-Friday : 9am-5pm
> Saturday 9am-4pm
>
> Open late night Thursday for pick up only until 8pm
>
> Not open Sundays
>
I have bought many items from Umart. And Umart have always been good to
deal with when I have a warranty issue.

I have only dealt with the Milton Bris, and have always picked up my
purchases.

I have two complaints
1. It is impossible to get an estimated freight charge if I want delivery.
This would be what I choose because parking is a nightmare for pickups.
2. 3% for Mastercard/Visa is a ripoff. Umart has a major turnover. I
would think that Mastercard/Visa costs to them is 1%

Regards

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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:55:17 +1100 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
wrote:

> but managed to cripple myself

You in a wheelchair Roddles?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:05 pm
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Dazza wrote:
> Below is a copy of an email I sent to Umart regarding some components I
> intend to buy for my new system.
> Further below is their reply, which didn't seem to answer any of the
> questions I asked (well, all but one)
> It seems they might be reluctant to detail freight & other costs prior to
> purchase?
> I find it really annoying to have asked seemingly simple questions to get
> such a lame reponse!
>
> Has anyone got any positive or negative dealings with Umart they care to
> share with me before I spend almost $3k with them?
>
> (BTW, any comments on the system?)
>
> Email as sent to sales Manager.............
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a few questions regarding an order I wish to place with you.
> I intend to purchase the components for a complete system.
>
> How much is the freight to the NSW Central Coast (Post Code 2263)?
> Does the freight charge include insurance?
> Do you offer a build/assembly service for the components I intend to buy, if
> yes, cost?
>
> I am after the Intel E8400 CPU which seems out of stock in your shop, can
> you provide an accurate
> time for delivery, or are you able to transfer one from another of your
> shops to complete this order?
>
>
> Thanking you in advance
>
>
> XXXXXXX XXXXXXX (omitted for obvious reasons)
> XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX
>
> Product Quantity Price Gst Total
> Microsoft Windows XP PRO (OEM) $219.00 $19.91 $219.00
> Panasonic 1.44 Floppy(black) $15.00 $1.36 $15.00
> Samsung 400G 7200RPM SATAII $105.00 $9.55 $105.00
> Samsung 22 226BW Wide TFT Monitor - Black 2ms Digital / Analog Interf
> $399.00 $36.27 $399.00
> Antec 850W TruePower Quattro ATX & EPS 12V Power Supply, Modular Cable
> $270.00 $24.55 $270.00
> Antec P182 Performance One Black ATX Mid Tower - NO PSU $195.00
> $17.73 $195.00
> Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse USB $99.00 $9.00 $99.00
> Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 X38 1600MHz FSB DDR2-1066MHz 2 x PCI Express x16 S
> $344.00 $31.27 $344.00
> Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D 2GB $219.00 $19.91 $219.00
> Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Refresh $99.00 $9.00 $99.00
> Gigabyte NX8800GT 512MB DDR3 PCIEx16 HDCP 2xDVI-I HDTV $359.00
> $32.64 $359.00
> LG H20NS10 SATA 20X+- Super Multi DVD Rewriter Black with Software
> $39.00 $7.09 $78.00
> Intel ATX E8400 CORE 2 DUO /3.0GHz/6MB/1333FSB/LGA775 $299.00
> $27.18 $299.00
> Total $245.45 $2700.00
>
>
>
> And the reply..........
>
>
> hi,
>
> the cost is depend on the size and the weight and the location
> yes, the freight charge include insurance
> yes, we do offer a system build,
>
> if you need anyinformation please feel free to contact our sales staff so we
> can help you
>

The size and weight will change depending on whether the system is
assembled and shipped or packed as individual boxes and shipped. I
suggest you just email them back and ask for a shipping quote once you
decide how you want the items. If you're not serious about buying from
them, like most buyers, then don't waste their time. If you are, then
reply to their email and ask for clarification. I've been happy with my
dealings with them.

Ari

--
spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
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spodosaurus wrote:
>
>
> The size and weight will change depending on whether the system is
> assembled and shipped or packed as individual boxes and shipped. I
> suggest you just email them back and ask for a shipping quote once you
> decide how you want the items. If you're not serious about buying from
> them, like most buyers, then don't waste their time. If you are, then
> reply to their email and ask for clarification. I've been happy with my
> dealings with them.
>
> Ari
>

PS - I used one of the QLD stores, heard too many bad things about the
Sydney branch (apaprently Rod can attest to the problems there).

Ari

--
spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
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John Phillips <flatulantdingo DeleteThis @deadspam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote

>> but managed to cripple myself

> You in a wheelchair Roddles?

Nar, it was only temporary and I didnt even use a wheelchair then either.

It did stop me monstering Hardly Normal on the MS keyboard warranty
tho or more strictly I couldnt be othered with the hassle at the time.
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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus.DeleteThis@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
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> spodosaurus wrote:
>>
>>
>> The size and weight will change depending on whether the system is
>> assembled and shipped or packed as individual boxes and shipped. I
>> suggest you just email them back and ask for a shipping quote once you
>> decide how you want the items. If you're not serious about buying from
>> them, like most buyers, then don't waste their time. If you are, then
>> reply to their email and ask for clarification. I've been happy with my
>> dealings with them.
>>
>> Ari
>>
>
> PS - I used one of the QLD stores, heard too many bad things about the
> Sydney branch (apaprently Rod can attest to the problems there).
>
> Ari
>
> --
> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
> volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:
> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
> http://www.marrow.org/

The email I sent to them was to the Sale Manager in the Qld head office at
Milton.
Part of the reason for asking wether they could assemble the parts was to
reduce the freight charges, as it should then be only one box instead of
many.
The email I sent them included all the items I wanted, copied from their own
website shopping cart, so they knew exactly what needed to be assembled or
shipped.
Now I guess I did assume they would provide me with a quote based on the
items I selected, either assembled or not.
I do understand they would get many emails from ppl who would be wasting
their time, I'm self employed & the same happens to me.
That doesn't mean I can choose to not answer any questions or provide a
quotation.

As I did not get an answer from them regarding the CPU, I have since bought
an Intel E8400 on ebay, & will buy other things on ebay now.
These are items they could have sold to me by answering a couple of simple
straight forward questions.


Dazza
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Dazza <nospam.dt_clancy.nospam DeleteThis @bigpond.com> wrote
> spodosaurus <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote
>> spodosaurus wrote

>>> The size and weight will change depending on whether the system is
>>> assembled and shipped or packed as individual boxes and shipped. I
>>> suggest you just email them back and ask for a shipping quote once
>>> you decide how you want the items. If you're not serious about
>>> buying from them, like most buyers, then don't waste their time. If
>>> you are, then reply to their email and ask for clarification. I've
>>> been happy with my dealings with them.
>>>
>>> Ari
>>>
>>
>> PS - I used one of the QLD stores, heard too many bad things about
>> the Sydney branch (apaprently Rod can attest to the problems there).
>>
>> Ari
>>
>> --
>> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
>> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant.
>> Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's
>> life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/
>> http://www.marrow.org/

> The email I sent to them was to the Sale Manager in the Qld head office at Milton.

> Part of the reason for asking wether they could assemble the parts was to reduce the freight charges, as it should
> then be only one box instead of many.

I've ever seen anyone do anything else than ship in more than two boxes, one
for the monitor and one for everything else, even when they arent assembled.

> The email I sent them included all the items I wanted, copied from their own website shopping cart, so they knew
> exactly what needed to be assembled or shipped.

I guess its not too surprising that they didnt bother to try to calculate the total weight
when you hadnt yet decided whether it was going to be assembled by them or not.

> Now I guess I did assume they would provide me with a quote based on the items I selected, either assembled or not.

I'd personally let the person decide that before bothering with a
formal quote on the shipping cost unless they pay a fixed rate etc.

> I do understand they would get many emails from ppl who would be
> wasting their time, I'm self employed & the same happens to me.

> That doesn't mean I can choose to not answer any questions or provide a quotation.

> As I did not get an answer from them regarding the CPU, I have since
> bought an Intel E8400 on ebay, & will buy other things on ebay now.

Thats likely to end up costing you more in freight than you would have paid umart.

> These are items they could have sold to me by answering a couple of simple straight forward questions.

Sure, but most dont religiously answer all the questions in an email,
essentially because its too much work when so many of the emails
dont result in a sale, and even when they do, you've got to remember
that any operation like that is working on very slim margins and making
a profit with that type of operation is minimising the effort that has to
be put into making each sale.
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dazza <nospam.dt_clancy.nospam.DeleteThis@bigpond.com> wrote
>> spodosaurus <spodosaurus.DeleteThis@_yahoo_.com> wrote
>>> spodosaurus wrote
>
>>>> The size and weight will change depending on whether the system is
>>>> assembled and shipped or packed as individual boxes and shipped. I
>>>> suggest you just email them back and ask for a shipping quote once
>>>> you decide how you want the items. If you're not serious about
>>>> buying from them, like most buyers, then don't waste their time. If
>>>> you are, then reply to their email and ask for clarification. I've
>>>> been happy with my dealings with them.
>>>>
>>>> Ari
>>>>
>>>
>>> PS - I used one of the QLD stores, heard too many bad things about
>>> the Sydney branch (apaprently Rod can attest to the problems there).
>>>
>>> Ari
>>>
>>> --
>>> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
>>> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant.
>>> Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's
>>> life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/
>>> http://www.marrow.org/
>
>> The email I sent to them was to the Sale Manager in the Qld head office
>> at Milton.
>
>> Part of the reason for asking wether they could assemble the parts was to
>> reduce the freight charges, as it should then be only one box instead of
>> many.
>
> I've ever seen anyone do anything else than ship in more than two boxes,
> one
> for the monitor and one for everything else, even when they arent
> assembled.

A very simple thing to quote on then eh?

>> The email I sent them included all the items I wanted, copied from their
>> own website shopping cart, so they knew exactly what needed to be
>> assembled or shipped.
>
> I guess its not too surprising that they didnt bother to try to calculate
> the total weight
> when you hadnt yet decided whether it was going to be assembled by them or
> not.

Rubbish!
As if they don't know what the items weigh, they do this all the time don't
they?
I asked for a price on assembly which they declined to quote & an assembled
system would take up much less cubic's than individual items packaged in a
large box & I'm sure they would have a std cost for freight of assembled
systems.

>> Now I guess I did assume they would provide me with a quote based on the
>> items I selected, either assembled or not.
>
> I'd personally let the person decide that before bothering with a
> formal quote on the shipping cost unless they pay a fixed rate etc.

If they had quoted me on assembly I could have decided, but I'm not about to
agree to an unknown cost.

>> I do understand they would get many emails from ppl who would be
>> wasting their time, I'm self employed & the same happens to me.
>
>> That doesn't mean I can choose to not answer any questions or provide a
>> quotation.
>
>> As I did not get an answer from them regarding the CPU, I have since
>> bought an Intel E8400 on ebay, & will buy other things on ebay now.
>
> Thats likely to end up costing you more in freight than you would have
> paid umart.

Less, the CPU was cheaper including freight than their list price without
freight.
Same for the GPU, Ram, HDD, keyboard, mouse & OS.
I cant find the MB, monitor, case or PSU just yet but no doubt i will.

>> These are items they could have sold to me by answering a couple of
>> simple straight forward questions.
>
> Sure, but most dont religiously answer all the questions in an email,
> essentially because its too much work when so many of the emails
> dont result in a sale, and even when they do, you've got to remember
> that any operation like that is working on very slim margins and making
> a profit with that type of operation is minimising the effort that has to
> be put into making each sale.
>
And a lost sale was worth...??
Based on what others are selling the same items for on ebay, they would have
made a fair profit.
Which is maybe why they aren't bothered by the prospect of losing a $2700.00
sale.

Lets not miss the point here...they didn't answer a single one of my
questions.
Simply to reply with a std cut & paste reply isn't good enough in my books.
However, they do get credit for actually replying all the same.
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> I have two complaints
> 1. It is impossible to get an estimated freight charge if I want
> delivery. This would be what I choose because parking is a nightmare for
> pickups.
> 2. 3% for Mastercard/Visa is a ripoff. Umart has a major turnover. I
> would think that Mastercard/Visa costs to them is 1%

Why would it be 1%? I don't think anyone is 1%. Even kmart isn't 1%.
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"MisterE" <voids.RemoveThis@sometwher.world> wrote in message
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>
>> I have two complaints
>> 1. It is impossible to get an estimated freight charge if I want
>> delivery. This would be what I choose because parking is a nightmare for
>> pickups.
>> 2. 3% for Mastercard/Visa is a ripoff. Umart has a major turnover. I
>> would think that Mastercard/Visa costs to them is 1%
>
> Why would it be 1%? I don't think anyone is 1%. Even kmart isn't 1%.

I'm a merchant that recently changed providers.
I went fom a bank that charged a lower monthly fee but had a standard credit
rate of just under 2% (Diners and Amex commissions are higher) and a higher
set charge for direct debit cards.
To a bank that charges a higher monthly access fee but was lower for direct
debit cards and has variable rates for Visa Mcard.
For standard cards they charge me under 1% but those business cards and
other premium types attract a higher 3% rate. I presume it's to pay for
those rewards associated with the premium cards.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:04 am
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"MisterE" <voids RemoveThis @sometwher.world> wrote in message
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>> I have two complaints
>> 1. It is impossible to get an estimated freight charge if I want
>> delivery. This would be what I choose because parking is a nightmare for
>> pickups.
>> 2. 3% for Mastercard/Visa is a ripoff. Umart has a major turnover. I
>> would think that Mastercard/Visa costs to them is 1%
>
> Why would it be 1%? I don't think anyone is 1%. Even kmart isn't 1%.
>
Under 1% is the norm. see http://www.afta.com.au/www/index.cfm?itemid=274
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 03:27:15 GMT "The Old Bloke" <xx.DeleteThis@xx.com> wrote:

> Under 1% is the norm. see
> http://www.afta.com.au/www/index.cfm?itemid=274

Not the norm at all. That is a special negotiated rate for AFTA.
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"John Phillips" <flatulantdingo.RemoveThis@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 03:27:15 GMT "The Old Bloke" <xx.RemoveThis@xx.com> wrote:
>
>> Under 1% is the norm. see
>> http://www.afta.com.au/www/index.cfm?itemid=274
>
> Not the norm at all. That is a special negotiated rate for AFTA.

my mistake.
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:57:20 GMT "The Old Bloke" <xx RemoveThis @xx.com> wrote:

> > Not the norm at all. That is a special negotiated rate for AFTA.
>
> my mistake.


No worries. Bloody good rates, BTW!
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