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Skybuck Flying

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:58 pm
Post subject: Unable to turn off L1 and/or L2 cache for Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard and Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor ?
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Hello,

I own:

an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
and
an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.

I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2 cache for
the processor has on program performance.

I checked the bios setup screen and I also checked the manual.

I didn't find any options to turn it off (?)

Is there a way to turn it off and back on again ?

Bye,
Skybuck.

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Augustus

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:58 pm
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> an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
> and
> an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.
>
> I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2 cache for
> the processor has on program performance.

Skybuck, of all the nitwit ideas and pointless ramblings I've seen you post
over the years, this is right up there with the best. Plus the fact that you
posted it to a videocard ng is just icing on the cake. If went out and
bought a new Z06 Corvette or Ferrari 430, you could always pull 3 plug wires
and drive around to get a feel for what would happen.

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JAD

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:58 pm
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Yank hard on the CPU heatsink until the socket comes off, this will diabled
the L2 L1




Skybuck Flying" <spam.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eqicno$si1$1@news2.zwoll1.ov.home.nl...
> Hello,
>
> I own:
>
> an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
> and
> an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.
>
> I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2 cache for
> the processor has on program performance.
>
> I checked the bios setup screen and I also checked the manual.
>
> I didn't find any options to turn it off (?)
>
> Is there a way to turn it off and back on again ?
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
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DaveW

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:58 pm
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No. It is hardwired in the CPU.

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"Skybuck Flying" <spam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eqicno$si1$1@news2.zwoll1.ov.home.nl...
> Hello,
>
> I own:
>
> an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
> and
> an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.
>
> I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2 cache for
> the processor has on program performance.
>
> I checked the bios setup screen and I also checked the manual.
>
> I didn't find any options to turn it off (?)
>
> Is there a way to turn it off and back on again ?
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
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Paul57

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:58 pm
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I own:
>
> an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
> and
> an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.
>
> I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2 cache for
> the processor has on program performance.
>
> I checked the bios setup screen and I also checked the manual.
>
> I didn't find any options to turn it off (?)
>
> Is there a way to turn it off and back on again ?
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
>

I looked in here and don't see a method of doing it directly.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_doc...6094.PD

Paul
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Mön§igñor_ßoddoM

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:58 pm
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Paul wrote:
> Skybuck Flying wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I own:
>>
>> an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
>> and
>> an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.
>>
>> I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2 cache
>> for the processor has on program performance.
>>
>> I checked the bios setup screen and I also checked the manual.
>>
>> I didn't find any options to turn it off (?)
>>
>> Is there a way to turn it off and back on again ?
>>
>> Bye,
>> Skybuck.
>>
>
> I looked in here and don't see a method of doing it directly.
>
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_doc...6094.PD
>
>
It's purely a manual operation. First you need a Big F*****g Hammer....

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"Sir, I am unaware of any such activity or operation - nor would
I be disposed to discuss such an operation if it did in
fact exist, sir."
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Skybuck Flying

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:04 pm
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"Augustus" <no_one.TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>> an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
>> and
>> an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.
>>
>> I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2 cache
>> for the processor has on program performance.
>
> Skybuck, of all the nitwit ideas and pointless ramblings I've seen you
> post over the years, this is right up there with the best. Plus the fact
> that you

Thank you for the complement.

> posted it to a videocard ng is just icing on the cake. If went out and
> bought a new Z06 Corvette or Ferrari 430, you could always pull 3 plug
> wires and drive around to get a feel for what would happen.

Is that big dick that's stuck in your ass telling you crazy things again ?

You know damn well nvidia designed the chipset for my motherboard and this
is the only nvidia newsgroup and I wonder if nvidia tested their chipset
with the american megatrends bios (amibios) ?

Or did they have big dick up their ass like you as well and were to busy
sucking off sperm from each other's dick instead of testing testing testing
there expensive chipsets ? Wink

Does that sound reasonable to you ?

Bye,
Skybuck.
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Augustus

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:27 pm
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> Is that big dick that's stuck in your ass telling you crazy things again ?
>
> You know damn well nvidia designed the chipset for my motherboard and this
> is the only nvidia newsgroup and I wonder if nvidia tested their chipset
> with the american megatrends bios (amibios) ?
>
> Or did they have big dick up their ass like you as well and were to busy
> sucking off sperm from each other's dick instead of testing testing
> testing there expensive chipsets ? Wink
>
> Does that sound reasonable to you ?

You know, I thought about replying to this well reasoned line of logic,
but....nahhh. You've pretty much said it all yourself.
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Mr.E Solved!

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:27 pm
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Augustus wrote:
>> Is that big dick that's stuck in your ass telling you crazy things again ?
>>
>> You know damn well nvidia designed the chipset for my motherboard and this
>> is the only nvidia newsgroup and I wonder if nvidia tested their chipset
>> with the american megatrends bios (amibios) ?
>>
>> Or did they have big dick up their ass like you as well and were to busy
>> sucking off sperm from each other's dick instead of testing testing
>> testing there expensive chipsets ? Wink
>>
>> Does that sound reasonable to you ?
>
> You know, I thought about replying to this well reasoned line of logic,
> but....nahhh. You've pretty much said it all yourself.
>
>

Blocking SF is one of the wisest newsgroups actions a person can take.
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MC

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:38 pm
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
> I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2 cache for
> the processor has on program performance.
Even without needing the options you can get a feel.. buy an old 486-33,
and run your programs on that Wink
Honestly, switching off L1 and L2 cache will slow your programs down
probably 50 fold or so.
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Augustus

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:03 pm
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> I'm sorry, but it is perfectly possible on some boards. The CMOS settings
> _control_ many functions inside the chipset, and CPU, and on quite a few
> boards, this includes the cache. However the number is reducing. Though it
> is an unusual request, it is not as silly as it may sound.

I don't think the big issue here is whether or not some m/b chipsets and
BIOS setting can do this. Most could disable L2 in older boards. Not so many
now. The issue is the poster and his multi year track record of inanity,
deliberate stupidity and cluelessness. Do a google groups serach for
previous postings by Skybuck Flying and you'll get an inkling of what pisses
most of the n/g users off.
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SteveH

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:26 pm
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"Mr.E Solved!" <Iamsingle DeleteThis @askme.out> wrote in message
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> Augustus wrote:
>>> Is that big dick that's stuck in your ass telling you crazy things again
>>> ?
>>>
>>> You know damn well nvidia designed the chipset for my motherboard and
>>> this is the only nvidia newsgroup and I wonder if nvidia tested their
>>> chipset with the american megatrends bios (amibios) ?
>>>
>>> Or did they have big dick up their ass like you as well and were to busy
>>> sucking off sperm from each other's dick instead of testing testing
>>> testing there expensive chipsets ? Wink
>>>
>>> Does that sound reasonable to you ?
>>
>> You know, I thought about replying to this well reasoned line of logic,
>> but....nahhh. You've pretty much said it all yourself.
>
> Blocking SF is one of the wisest newsgroups actions a person can take.

I thought that once, but he's sooooo stupid, he's funny sometimes.

SteveH
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Kyle

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:35 am
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"Paul" <nospam.RemoveThis@needed.com> wrote in message
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| Skybuck Flying wrote:
| > Hello,
| >
| > I own:
| >
| > an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
| > and
| > an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.
| >
| > I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2
cache for
| > the processor has on program performance.
| >
| > I checked the bios setup screen and I also checked the manual.
| >
| > I didn't find any options to turn it off (?)
| >
| > Is there a way to turn it off and back on again ?
| >
| > Bye,
| > Skybuck.
| >
| >
|
| I looked in here and don't see a method of doing it directly.
|
|
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_doc...6094.PD
|
| Paul

I note the above linked document *does* suggest the BIOS should enable
the cache via CR0 (pertaining to using the cache as system memory
during initialization), I did not find any specific detail on how this
is done programmatically. In the older k6+ CPUs (and other Intel
CPUs), the onboard cache could be enabled or disabled via the CD bit
of CR0. Seems to reason that a detailed review of the instruction set
for the processor should reveal how to accomplish the desired goal.
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Paul57

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:32 am
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Kyle wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com> wrote in message
> news:eqiojq$64o$1@aioe.org...
> | Skybuck Flying wrote:
> | > Hello,
> | >
> | > I own:
> | >
> | > an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
> | > and
> | > an Athlon 64 X2 Manchester 3800+ processor.
> | >
> | > I would like to see what effect turning off the L1 and/or the L2
> cache for
> | > the processor has on program performance.
> | >
> | > I checked the bios setup screen and I also checked the manual.
> | >
> | > I didn't find any options to turn it off (?)
> | >
> | > Is there a way to turn it off and back on again ?
> | >
> | > Bye,
> | > Skybuck.
> | >
> | >
> |
> | I looked in here and don't see a method of doing it directly.
> |
> |
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_doc...6094.PD
> |
> | Paul
>
> I note the above linked document *does* suggest the BIOS should enable
> the cache via CR0 (pertaining to using the cache as system memory
> during initialization), I did not find any specific detail on how this
> is done programmatically. In the older k6+ CPUs (and other Intel
> CPUs), the onboard cache could be enabled or disabled via the CD bit
> of CR0. Seems to reason that a detailed review of the instruction set
> for the processor should reveal how to accomplish the desired goal.

There are three arch docs, 24592, 24593, 24594, and this one details CR0
and CD. (PDF page 87.) So there is a cache disable, it just isn't detailed
in 26094. Good ole distributed documentation system Smile

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_doc...4593.pd

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:48 pm
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You are clueless Augustus.

My old pentium III 450 mhz board allows me to turn off L1 and L2 cache Razz*

You also seem to ignore the valid points made by the poster... tut tut tut.

Bye,
Skybuck.
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