Looking for Universal Hard Drive data recovery unit

On 14 Feb 2004 03:02:22 -0800, Leo DeleteThis @softjoys.ru (Leo) wrote:

 >"CCS" <sales DeleteThis @caringcomputerservices.com> wrote in message news:<402dbbc3$1_2@corp.newsgroups.com>...
  >> I am looking for a universal machine that can take any damaged hard drive
  >> and get the data off of it.
 >
 >http://www.ibas.no/teknologi/patan.htm
 >
 >IMHO, if this mashine really works, it works with record density up to
 >~100Mb per platter. By a picture, the design of a read head
 >positioning mechanism is very similar to a design 5 inch HDD with a
 >stepping motor.
 >
 >Leonid

And the disk used to impress the computer press 2003, is a Quantum
ProDrive from about 1990:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ing.dk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030926/IT/109260062" target="_blank">http://www.ing.dk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030926/IT/109260062</a>

Without mentioning that fact of course.

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Previously Svend Olaf Mikkelsen <svolaf.TakeThisOut@inet.uni2.dk> wrote:
 > On 14 Feb 2004 03:02:22 -0800, Leo.TakeThisOut@softjoys.ru (Leo) wrote:

  >>"CCS" <sales.TakeThisOut@caringcomputerservices.com> wrote in message news:<402dbbc3$1_2@corp.newsgroups.com>...
   >>> I am looking for a universal machine that can take any damaged hard drive
   >>> and get the data off of it.
  >>
  >>http://www.ibas.no/teknologi/patan.htm
  >>
  >>IMHO, if this mashine really works, it works with record density up to
  >>~100Mb per platter. By a picture, the design of a read head
  >>positioning mechanism is very similar to a design 5 inch HDD with a
  >>stepping motor.
  >>
  >>Leonid

 > And the disk used to impress the computer press 2003, is a Quantum
 > ProDrive from about 1990:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ing.dk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030926/IT/109260062</font" target="_blank">http://www.ing.dk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030926/IT/109260062</font</a>>
 > Without mentioning that fact of course.

In addition if anyone has such a machine for todays drives they
built it themselves for their own use and the last thing they
are going to do is give it to you. Unless you buy the whole
company. Nayway, I agree with the others that it unlikely
to be possible for todays drives.

Arno
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 >built it themselves for their own use and the last thing they
 > are going to do is give it to you.

I agree, they would be selling it to the highest bidder!! They would also be
selling their data recovery capability everywhere via
online ads, print ads and throughout their Data Recovery network. If we
could remove the platters and directly read the data
via an external device(s) why use any other approach?

I can find no evidence that any company is claiming they have that
capability. Therefore I suspect no one does.
One company that claimed they have the capability does not provide any
information or statement on their website that they
can recover directly from an external device that reads the platters. Other
high profile DR companies have indicated they do not have this capability.

There are current research studies on the subject at the university level
and associated published papers.

Previously in this thread there was a link to an online article - briefly
what is the English translation?
It appears the article has a recent date - but if the technology/research
relates to an ancient hdd it probably has no current value.





"Arno Wagner" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c0m77a$18uv2q$1@ID-2964.news.uni-berlin.de...
 > Previously Svend Olaf Mikkelsen <svolaf RemoveThis @inet.uni2.dk> wrote:
  > > On 14 Feb 2004 03:02:22 -0800, Leo RemoveThis @softjoys.ru (Leo) wrote:
 >
   > >>"CCS" <sales RemoveThis @caringcomputerservices.com> wrote in message
news:<402dbbc3$1_2@corp.newsgroups.com>...
   > >>> I am looking for a universal machine that can take any damaged hard
drive
   > >>> and get the data off of it.
   > >>
   > >>http://www.ibas.no/teknologi/patan.htm
   > >>
   > >>IMHO, if this mashine really works, it works with record density up to
   > >>~100Mb per platter. By a picture, the design of a read head
   > >>positioning mechanism is very similar to a design 5 inch HDD with a
   > >>stepping motor.
   > >>
   > >>Leonid
 >
  > > And the disk used to impress the computer press 2003, is a Quantum
  > > ProDrive from about 1990:
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ing.dk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030926/IT/109260062</font" target="_blank">http://www.ing.dk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030926/IT/109260062</font</a>>
  > > Without mentioning that fact of course.
 >
 > In addition if anyone has such a machine for todays drives they
 > built it themselves for their own use and the last thing they
 > are going to do is give it to you. Unless you buy the whole
 > company. Nayway, I agree with the others that it unlikely
 > to be possible for todays drives.
 >
 > Arno
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Previously someone <nospam.DeleteThis@spamfree.com> wrote:
 > snip>

  >>built it themselves for their own use and the last thing they
  >> are going to do is give it to you.

 > I agree, they would be selling it to the highest bidder!!

Indeed =)

 > They would also be
 > selling their data recovery capability everywhere via
 > online ads, print ads and throughout their Data Recovery network. If we
 > could remove the platters and directly read the data
 > via an external device(s) why use any other approach?

I can think of one improvement. Might be even on the same difficulty-
level: Just put the complete HDD in the shredder, fill the result in
a plastic bag and put that in the "magic machine". Less work this way
since the platter do not have to be removed. And you can recover
destroyed HDDs too!

Maybe we should file a patent on this?

 > I can find no evidence that any company is claiming they have that
 > capability. Therefore I suspect no one does.
 > One company that claimed they have the capability does not provide any
 > information or statement on their website that they
 > can recover directly from an external device that reads the platters. Other
 > high profile DR companies have indicated they do not have this capability.

 > There are current research studies on the subject at the university level
 > and associated published papers.

There is some magnetic imaging technique with microscopic resolution.
That might have this capability, but would be very time-consuming to use.

 > Previously in this thread there was a link to an online article - briefly
 > what is the English translation?
 > It appears the article has a recent date - but if the technology/research
 > relates to an ancient hdd it probably has no current value.

Very likely. I think the hdd in question was still using a stepper-motor.

Arno

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"CCS" <sales RemoveThis @caringcomputerservices.com> wrote in message
news:402dbbc3$1_2@corp.newsgroups.com...
 > I am looking for a universal machine that can take any damaged hard drive
 > and get the data off of it.

Keep looking

 >
 > So I would take off the platters and put it into this machine and it will
 > get all the data off of it.

Cool ...

 >
 > I have heard that this device exists in europe but I can't find it
anywhere
 > on the web. Can someone help me out?

For sale you mean?

 >
 > It would make my data recovery business really take off.
 >

I bet it would

 > Email to sales at caringcomputerservices dot com
 >

Normally informing others about your email address this way is a good way to
prevent spammers from getting the email address (something at whatever dot
com). However in your case the un cripled address is present in your message
header anyway.

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