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CiRcUiT

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:02 pm
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I am looking at getting a 2600+ and 2x256MB PC3700. The shop I am going to
get this from has an AOPEN NForce2 Mainboard for a reasonable price.

Does anyone here have experience with AOPEN's NForce2 boards (I've used ASUS
for my last builds) good or bad? I'm looking for opinions on them as I have
never used AOPEN's products.

Thanks.

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"CiRcUiT" <jcodling DeleteThis @xcelco.on.ca> wrote in message
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 > I am looking at getting a 2600+ and 2x256MB PC3700. The shop I am going to
 > get this from has an AOPEN NForce2 Mainboard for a reasonable price.
 >
 > Does anyone here have experience with AOPEN's NForce2 boards (I've used
ASUS
 > for my last builds) good or bad? I'm looking for opinions on them as I
have
 > never used AOPEN's products.

Aopen = Acer. Nuff said.

You won't be happy going from Asus to Aopen. You might want to look into
Chaintech, Epox, or Shuttle if you don't want Asus. Personally I feel that
Chaintech's higher end boards are much better than Asus's high end boards
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"Pug Fugley" <nosir DeleteThis @mrhorse.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling DeleteThis @xcelco.on.ca> wrote in message
 > news:vjg4jgg2ohfr5c@corp.supernews.com...
  > > I am looking at getting a 2600+ and 2x256MB PC3700. The shop I am going
to
  > > get this from has an AOPEN NForce2 Mainboard for a reasonable price.
  > >
  > > Does anyone here have experience with AOPEN's NForce2 boards (I've used
 > ASUS
  > > for my last builds) good or bad? I'm looking for opinions on them as I
 > have
  > > never used AOPEN's products.
 >
 > Aopen = Acer. Nuff said.
 >
 > You won't be happy going from Asus to Aopen. You might want to look into
 > Chaintech, Epox, or Shuttle if you don't want Asus. Personally I feel that
 > Chaintech's higher end boards are much better than Asus's high end boards
 > but that's just me and my build style Smile
 >

I am using the AOpen AK79G Max and loving it. Best board(s) I have built a
systems around. Pug hasn't a clue about AOpen quality.

If your getting PC3700 make sure it will work with whatever mainboard you
get. Just because the RAM is rated higher doesn't always mean it will work.
The AK79G Max is rated to use up to PC3200.

My system is:
Mainboard: AOpen - AK79G Max
CPU: AMD - XP2500 Barton Core
RAM: Apacer - PC3200 2 x 256MB
HD: Maxtor - 80GB - 7200RPM - ATA/133
CD-RW: Lite On - 52X/24X/52X
CD: AOpen - 56X
Floppy: TEAC
Video: Abit - FX5200 - 128MB DDR (worst video card ever back to
ATI for me)
Audio: Hercules - Grand Fortissimo II 5.1 Digital (awesome card)
Case/PSU Antec - Black Mid tower acrylic window with 350 watt PSU and 5
x 80mm LED fans
Cables: Nexfan - Rounded IDE/133 and floppy cables

I use Apacer PC3200 2 x 256MB in a dual channel setup and the board runs
async. 333/400 without a problem.

The AK79G Max is not much for OC'ing. Can't change the multiplier. I am no
longer an OC'er since stability is more important to me at this time.

This is my second AOpen board and AOpen will be my first consideration when
I upgrade in the future.

Use the following link below for a thorough review of the AK79G Max and see
how it stacks up against boards by Asus, Epox, ECS and others.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ocworkbench.com/2003/aopen/ak79gmax/ak79gmax-1.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ocworkbench.com/2003/aopen/ak79gmax/ak79gmax-1.htm</a>

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Nystagmus wrote:

 >
 > "Pug Fugley" <nosir.DeleteThis@mrhorse.com> wrote in message
  >>
  >> "CiRcUiT" <jcodling.DeleteThis@xcelco.on.ca> wrote in message

   >> >
   >> > Does anyone here have experience with AOPEN's NForce2 boards (I've used
  >> ASUS
   >> > for my last builds) good or bad? I'm looking for opinions on them as I
  >> have
   >> > never used AOPEN's products.
  >>
  >> Aopen = Acer. Nuff said.
  >>
  >> You won't be happy going from Asus to Aopen. You might want to look into
  >> Chaintech, Epox, or Shuttle if you don't want Asus. Personally I feel
  >> that Chaintech's higher end boards are much better than Asus's high end
  >> boards but that's just me and my build style Smile
  >>
 >
 > I am using the AOpen AK79G Max and loving it. Best board(s) I have built
 > a
 > systems around. Pug hasn't a clue about AOpen quality.
 >


I agree, Aopens boards work fine. I built 2 systems with the sis chipset and
the aopen was more stable oclocked than the asus board with the same
chipset. I can't believe someone would suggest shuttle is higher quality
than Aopen? While shuttle boards run OK they ussually have lackluster
performance.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:11 am
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"Nystagmus" <eyesores RemoveThis @blurredvision.org> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Pug Fugley" <nosir RemoveThis @mrhorse.com> wrote in message
 > news:PtWZa.8683$BC2.4887@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
  > >
  > > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling RemoveThis @xcelco.on.ca> wrote in message
  > > news:vjg4jgg2ohfr5c@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > I am looking at getting a 2600+ and 2x256MB PC3700. The shop I am
going
 > to
   > > > get this from has an AOPEN NForce2 Mainboard for a reasonable price.
   > > >
   > > > Does anyone here have experience with AOPEN's NForce2 boards (I've
used
  > > ASUS
   > > > for my last builds) good or bad? I'm looking for opinions on them as I
  > > have
   > > > never used AOPEN's products.
  > >
  > > Aopen = Acer. Nuff said.
  > >
  > > You won't be happy going from Asus to Aopen. You might want to look into
  > > Chaintech, Epox, or Shuttle if you don't want Asus. Personally I feel
that
  > > Chaintech's higher end boards are much better than Asus's high end
boards
  > > but that's just me and my build style Smile
  > >
 >
 > I am using the AOpen AK79G Max and loving it. Best board(s) I have built
a
 > systems around. Pug hasn't a clue about AOpen quality.

Nope. Just never cared for the 'flea market' brands. I've never seen a good
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:29 pm
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 > Video: Abit - FX5200 - 128MB DDR (worst video card ever back to
ATI for me)

Yeah, I think my GF4 Ti4200 works better than that FX5200.




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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:51 am
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i too have been mobo shopping and am having a difficult time discerning
which brand i'd rather go with

ASUS, AOPEN, or GigaByte... ASUS seems to be very popular, i'd like to think
that's because it's reliable and does a good job..

also, what is the advantage of the nForce2 Ultra 400 chipset vs. a "regular"
nForce2 with a 400mhz FSB?

TIA of course!

- kevin


"CiRcUiT" <jcodling.DeleteThis@xcelco.on.ca> wrote in message
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 > I am looking at getting a 2600+ and 2x256MB PC3700. The shop I am going to
 > get this from has an AOPEN NForce2 Mainboard for a reasonable price.
 >
 > Does anyone here have experience with AOPEN's NForce2 boards (I've used
ASUS
 > for my last builds) good or bad? I'm looking for opinions on them as I
have
 > never used AOPEN's products.
 >
 > Thanks.
 >
 > --
 >
 > CiRcUiT -=- J.J.C. -=- Ontario, Canada
 >
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:51 am
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It's this one...
http://www.aopen.com/products/mb/AK79D-400VN.htm

with DDR400 RAM but I will clock it to DDR333 to match the cpu...

I'm still not sure about how fast I going to go with the cpu. The price
sweet spot in my area is the 2600+ but if I can afford more then...


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The between the nForce and nForce Ultra is explained below. It was copied
from <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.nvidia.com" target="_blank">www.nvidia.com</a>

Introducing the NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 and NVIDIA nForce2 400
The NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 incorporates dual 400MHz DDR controllers,
delivering twice the bandwidth of typical DDR chipsets, an optimized 128-bit
architecture, and 400MHz frontside bus (FSB) support for unparalleled
performance. The NVIDIA nForce2 400 relies on a single 64-bit memory channel
to deliver 400 MHz FSB and 400MHz DDR performance to the mainstream.

Regarding which mainboard to purchase that is figuring what you need/want
and finding it. All the major brands make good boards and stinkers too
including ASUS. ASUS is popular among the OC'ers because their BIOS allows
one to OC easily.

AOpen on the other hand builds boards that aren't exciting or flashy because
their focus is to build stable boards. Both ASUS and AOpen mainboards are
of high quality most of the time. Last year or so the must have mainboard
was the K7S5A made by ECS a company not know for their quality, yet the
K7S5A sold more than 3 million boards world wide. It used the SiS 735
chipset. Again SiS was a company not known for producing cutting edge
products but rather products one sees in budget systems. Today SiS chipsets
are producing benchmarks that are neck to neck with nvidia and VIA.

I became a fan of AOpen when I built my a system using their MK77M II a
micoATX board that simply was the best microATX board based system I have
ever built. I then got the AK79G Max and again I was impressed with it. I
am sold on AOpen. I don't OC so AOpen for the time being has what I want
and need. I also owned the ECS K7S5A and it too was and still is an
outstanding yet dated mainboard.

Whatever you do chose wisely after doing research. A good mainboard should
last for a couple of years with some upgrade in between.

Nystagmus

"missmuffy33" <missmuffy33 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > i too have been mobo shopping and am having a difficult time discerning
 > which brand i'd rather go with
 >
 > ASUS, AOPEN, or GigaByte... ASUS seems to be very popular, i'd like to
think
 > that's because it's reliable and does a good job..
 >
 > also, what is the advantage of the nForce2 Ultra 400 chipset vs. a
"regular"
 > nForce2 with a 400mhz FSB?
 >
 > TIA of course!
 >
 > - kevin
 >
 >
 > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling DeleteThis @xcelco.on.ca> wrote in message
 > news:vjg4jgg2ohfr5c@corp.supernews.com...
  > > I am looking at getting a 2600+ and 2x256MB PC3700. The shop I am going
to
  > > get this from has an AOPEN NForce2 Mainboard for a reasonable price.
  > >
  > > Does anyone here have experience with AOPEN's NForce2 boards (I've used
 > ASUS
  > > for my last builds) good or bad? I'm looking for opinions on them as I
 > have
  > > never used AOPEN's products.
  > >
  > > Thanks.
  > >
  > > --
  > >
  > > CiRcUiT -=- J.J.C. -=- Ontario, Canada
  > >
  > >
 >
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"CiRcUiT" <jcodling.DeleteThis@xcelco.on.ca> wrote in message
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 > It's this one...
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aopen.com/products/mb/AK79D-400VN.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.aopen.com/products/mb/AK79D-400VN.htm</font</a>>
 >
 > with DDR400 RAM but I will clock it to DDR333 to match the cpu...
 >
 > I'm still not sure about how fast I going to go with the cpu. The price
 > sweet spot in my area is the 2600+ but if I can afford more then...

After looking at the price list of the shop I'm going to it will be the
2600+ Barton (333FSB) w/ 2x256MB DDR400 on the AOpen AK79D-400VN. The next
step up is the 2800+ and is over $120 (CND) more so forget that!


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CiRcUiT,


The AOpen AK79D-400VN is selling at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com" target="_blank">www.newegg.com</a> for $71.00 US (free
shipping) after $10.00 AOpen rebate.

Good choice. Have fun.

Nystagmus


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 > It's this one...
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 >
 > with DDR400 RAM but I will clock it to DDR333 to match the cpu...
 >
 > I'm still not sure about how fast I going to go with the cpu. The price
 > sweet spot in my area is the 2600+ but if I can afford more then...
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