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Maciej Piechotka

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:46 pm
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I am thinking about upgrade of processor in notebook.
Is there anything else I should consider except socket and fsb?

Bast regards
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:46 pm
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:46:02 +0100, Maciej Piechotka
<uzytkownik2.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am thinking about upgrade of processor in notebook.
>Is there anything else I should consider except socket and fsb?
>
>Bast regards

If all else fails and you have to blindly put in a chip and
see if it works, yes the processor socket and max FSB the
motherboard chipset can support would be the starting point.

You should consider posting the details of your notebook,
what processors you're looking to upgrade, see if there's a
newer bios available from the manufacturer that might
address CPU compatiblity (and flash that bios if you find
one described as such), and seek fellow owners of your
model of notebook to see what results they've had trying
this kind of upgrade.

Also keep in mind that a notebook processor upgrade can be a
mixed bag, in that some upgrades consume more power
resulting in shorter battery life and/or more frequent
ramping up of a potentially noisey fan, also putting more
wear on the fan, more wear on the battery, and in worst case
even beginning to warp the plastic from the heat generated.

In other words a notebook is a closed system with careful
engineering towards the heat level generated and even if a
given CPU socket could have something else put into it, that
doesn't necessarily mean it ought to run at a higher heat
level than it was qualified for when designed... but you
haven't given any specifics and once you know exactly what
processor you have and what alternatives you might have, you
can go to that respective processor manufacturer's website
and check out their datasheets for things like TDP, thermal
design power to get a better idea of power consumption (also
being heat production).

Frankly I feel most of the time a processor upgrade isn't
worth the bother, unless the notebook were practically brand
new and you had just bought the base model to avoid having
to pay for several things you didnt' need and now can
upgrade the processor cheaper than if it were bundled into
the notebook price initially, though often on a notebook the
hard drive is a larger bottleneck and then possibly the
memory amount. Certainly not always but on a budget
notebook or an aging one, they do tend to have lesser memory
and drive performance relative to more contemporary or
upgraded models.

I've now added more than you probably needed to read, but if
nobody here has any experience with your specific model and
a web search of that model doesn't turn up anything then you
might post the specifics of your system in a notebook web
forum asking if anyone knows.

Also, after posting the details of your notebook model,
please let us know if particular CPU(s) succeed or fail so
in the future anyone trying the same thing can find the
fruits of your labor.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:46 pm
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"Maciej Piechotka" <uzytkownik2.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I am thinking about upgrade of processor in notebook.
> Is there anything else I should consider except socket and fsb?

Heat output of the new processor. If it gets hotter than the old one, then
you may need to upgrade the cooling system, which for a laptop, is probably
not worth the hassle!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:16 pm
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kony <spam.RemoveThis@spam.com> writes:

> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:46:02 +0100, Maciej Piechotka
> <uzytkownik2.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I am thinking about upgrade of processor in notebook.
>>Is there anything else I should consider except socket and fsb?
>>
>>Bast regards
>
> If all else fails and you have to blindly put in a chip and
> see if it works, yes the processor socket and max FSB the
> motherboard chipset can support would be the starting point.
>

I want to rather avoid it Wink

> Also keep in mind that a notebook processor upgrade can be a
> mixed bag, in that some upgrades consume more power
> resulting in shorter battery life and/or more frequent
> ramping up of a potentially noisey fan, also putting more
> wear on the fan, more wear on the battery, and in worst case
> even beginning to warp the plastic from the heat generated.
>

I'll check it.

>
> I've now added more than you probably needed to read, but if
> nobody here has any experience with your specific model and
> a web search of that model doesn't turn up anything then you
> might post the specifics of your system in a notebook web
> forum asking if anyone knows.
>

Thanks.

> Also, after posting the details of your notebook model,
> please let us know if particular CPU(s) succeed or fail so
> in the future anyone trying the same thing can find the
> fruits of your labor.

I thinking about upgrade from a Celeron M 370 1.5 GHz (according to
documentation) into Celeron/Pentium M as fast as I can put into (afford etc.).

Regards and thanks for your informative post.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:49 pm
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:39:08 -0000, "GT"
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>"Maciej Piechotka" <uzytkownik2.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:877ih6xrhh.fsf@news.piechotka.com.pl...
>>I am thinking about upgrade of processor in notebook.
>> Is there anything else I should consider except socket and fsb?
>
>Heat output of the new processor. If it gets hotter than the old one, then
>you may need to upgrade the cooling system, which for a laptop, is probably
>not worth the hassle!
>

For a laptop it's practically impossible, unless one were to
have a custom 'sink made by a pro with new specs, probably
costing several hundred dollars.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:55 pm
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Celeron M and Pentium M are roughly within the same thermal envelope
all else being equal. However, do not try to put a Mobile Pentium 4-M
in a socket intended for a Celeron M, if they even have the same
socket that is.

Any Celeron M or Pentium M in the 1.7-2.2 GHz range should be fine.
Make sure the chipset supports it too though.
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