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John Lahr

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:18 pm
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I have noticed that on a D-link DWL-900AP+ there is an option to set the
access point up as a repeater by giving the MAC address of the initial
transmitter.
My friend has a wireless router and very thick internal walls and so is
unable to get access to his WIFI network upstairs in his house.
Would it be as simple as installing a DWL-900AP+ or equivalent to get wifi
upstairs in the house? What about signal overlap?

The network is used for connecting to a broadband connection and so WWW must
be available on the clients throughout the property.

Many Thanks!

John Lahr

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:19 pm
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"John Lahr" <lw00jel.TakeThisOut@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

 >My friend has a wireless router and very thick internal walls and so is
 >unable to get access to his WIFI network upstairs in his house.
 >Would it be as simple as installing a DWL-900AP+ or equivalent to get wifi
 >upstairs in the house? What about signal overlap?

Repeaters trade throughput for coverage. It's possible that installing a
repeater around the edge of coverage will improve coverage a bit more, but at
the cost of cutting any potential throughput in half.

Now, if all you want to do is access the web over your 1.5Mbps DSL or cable
modem, cutting throughput from 11Mbps (802.11b) to 5Mbps (theoretical - actual
is about 1/2 that) probably isn't a problem.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:19 pm
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:34:27 +0100, "John Lahr" <lw00jel DeleteThis @brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

 >I have noticed that on a D-link DWL-900AP+ there is an option to set the
 >access point up as a repeater by giving the MAC address of the initial
 >transmitter.
 >My friend has a wireless router and very thick internal walls and so is
 >unable to get access to his WIFI network upstairs in his house.
 >Would it be as simple as installing a DWL-900AP+ or equivalent to get wifi
 >upstairs in the house? What about signal overlap?
 >
 >The network is used for connecting to a broadband connection and so WWW must
 >be available on the clients throughout the property.
 >
 >Many Thanks!
 >
 >John Lahr
 >

Well, the definition of "repeater" along with the description of the
configuration widget would lead me to believe "it ought to work".
That leaves the question of where might you locate a repeater that will reach
the base unit and the remote node at the same time and with acceptable
throughput (unless these WAPs run the up-link in full duplex while in Repeater
mode, I'd expect the peak throughput will be adversely affected, perhaps as
badly as halved. Which might still not be a problem unless your broadband
connection is particularly speedy. But I digress...)

Before I plunked my money down I'd have downloaded the documentation for said
Access Point and verified as best as possible that the AP acting in repeater
mode would be compatible with my existing WLAN and provide usable bandwidth...

cheers

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:19 pm
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 > Well, the definition of "repeater" along with the description of the
 > configuration widget would lead me to believe "it ought to work".
 > That leaves the question of where might you locate a repeater that will
 > reach
 > the base unit and the remote node at the same time and with acceptable
 > throughput (unless these WAPs run the up-link in full duplex while in
 > Repeater
 > mode, I'd expect the peak throughput will be adversely affected, perhaps
 > as
 > badly as halved. Which might still not be a problem unless your broadband
 > connection is particularly speedy. But I digress...)
 >
 > Before I plunked my money down I'd have downloaded the documentation for
 > said
 > Access Point and verified as best as possible that the AP acting in
 > repeater
 > mode would be compatible with my existing WLAN and provide usable
 > bandwidth...
 >
 > cheers
 >
 > /daytripper

Firstly thanks!

I have sent email to D-link about this as manual not very enlightening.
Bandwidth should not be a problem as long as at least 1mb throughput is
possible. The connection is fast on the wired machine where it needs to be
fast.
If the router is placed in 22mb mode then halved it would still offer 11mb
connection speed so no problem.

I wanted to know really if anyone *has* tried this with a successful
outcome.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:19 pm
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:56:56 +0100, "John Lahr" <lw00jel.DeleteThis@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

 >
  >> Well, the definition of "repeater" along with the description of the
  >> configuration widget would lead me to believe "it ought to work".
  >> That leaves the question of where might you locate a repeater that will
  >> reach
  >> the base unit and the remote node at the same time and with acceptable
  >> throughput (unless these WAPs run the up-link in full duplex while in
  >> Repeater
  >> mode, I'd expect the peak throughput will be adversely affected, perhaps
  >> as
  >> badly as halved. Which might still not be a problem unless your broadband
  >> connection is particularly speedy. But I digress...)
  >>
  >> Before I plunked my money down I'd have downloaded the documentation for
  >> said
  >> Access Point and verified as best as possible that the AP acting in
  >> repeater
  >> mode would be compatible with my existing WLAN and provide usable
  >> bandwidth...
  >>
  >> cheers
  >>
  >> /daytripper
 >
 >Firstly thanks!
 >
 >I have sent email to D-link about this as manual not very enlightening.
 >Bandwidth should not be a problem as long as at least 1mb throughput is
 >possible. The connection is fast on the wired machine where it needs to be
 >fast.
 >If the router is placed in 22mb mode then halved it would still offer 11mb
 >connection speed so no problem.
 >
 >I wanted to know really if anyone *has* tried this with a successful
 >outcome.
 >
 >Regards
 >
 >John Lahr
 >

This specific topic has come up before - and at least a couple of the entries
listed are worth reading - particularly the one that says the D-link APs only
work with D-Link routers.

Go here: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://makeashorterlink.com/?U29A32F99" target="_blank">http://makeashorterlink.com/?U29A32F99</a>

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:11 pm
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"Clark W. Griswold, Jr." <spamtrap100 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
news:amotn094k9c1s9bmc2oa4cjj77igthvnnn@4ax.com...
 > "John Lahr" <lw00jel RemoveThis @brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
 >
  >>My friend has a wireless router and very thick internal walls and so is
  >>unable to get access to his WIFI network upstairs in his house.
  >>Would it be as simple as installing a DWL-900AP+ or equivalent to get wifi
  >>upstairs in the house? What about signal overlap?
 >
 > Repeaters trade throughput for coverage. It's possible that installing a
 > repeater around the edge of coverage will improve coverage a bit more, but
 > at
 > the cost of cutting any potential throughput in half.
 >
 > Now, if all you want to do is access the web over your 1.5Mbps DSL or
 > cable
 > modem, cutting throughput from 11Mbps (802.11b) to 5Mbps (theoretical -
 > actual
 > is about 1/2 that) probably isn't a problem.

Thank you both very much!
The router and repeater are/will both be D-link equipment a DI-614+ and
probably a DWL-900AP+.
So the only problem is loosing some speed? This is surely better than having
no connection at all and on the basis of a not to fast cable connection it
is insignificant. The only internal network traffic is the use of a shared
printer.

I think that it is definitely worth giving a try!

Kind Regards

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:11 pm
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"John Lahr" <lw00jel.DeleteThis@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

 >So the only problem is loosing some speed? This is surely better than having
 >no connection at all and on the basis of a not to fast cable connection it
 >is insignificant. The only internal network traffic is the use of a shared
 >printer.

Ummm, technically there's a difference between speed and throughput, but yes.
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