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Greg Berchin

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Since: Jun 05, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:34 pm
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Greetings,

Well, I did a Google search and, if I found the information that I want,
I didn't understand it. So I'll just come right out and ask.

I have three computers with 802.11g wireless cards already installed. I
also just happen to have a wireless access point, Belkin F5D7130. I do
NOT have a router.

I have no need for the computers to talk to each other, but I would like
for all of them to have Internet access. Can I connect the WAP directly
to the Ethernet port on the cable or DSL modem? If I do, and it works,
are there any pitfalls that I should know about?

Thanks,
Greg

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bobb

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:43 pm
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On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 18:34:24 -0500, Greg Berchin
<76145.2455.RemoveThis@compuswerve.com> wrote:

 >I have no need for the computers to talk to each other, but I would like
 >for all of them to have Internet access. Can I connect the WAP directly
 >to the Ethernet port on the cable or DSL modem? If I do, and it works,
 >are there any pitfalls that I should know about?


This only works if u buy one IP for ea. machine from the ISP, AND u
would be directly tied to the Internet with no protection.

When routers are dirt-cheap, I imagine this is the cheaper way than
whatever fancy footwork you are trying to get to.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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daytripper

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:26 pm
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On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 18:34:24 -0500, Greg Berchin <76145.2455.DeleteThis@compuswerve.com>
wrote:

 >Greetings,
 >
 >Well, I did a Google search and, if I found the information that I want,
 >I didn't understand it. So I'll just come right out and ask.
 >
 >I have three computers with 802.11g wireless cards already installed. I
 >also just happen to have a wireless access point, Belkin F5D7130. I do
 >NOT have a router.
 >
 >I have no need for the computers to talk to each other, but I would like
 >for all of them to have Internet access. Can I connect the WAP directly
 >to the Ethernet port on the cable or DSL modem? If I do, and it works,
 >are there any pitfalls that I should know about?
 >
 >Thanks,
 >Greg

Unless your DSL provider provisions three IP addresses to your modem, your
three machines will not be able to get to the internet.

A router solves that problem...

/daytripper<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Greg Berchin

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:25 am
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Thanks to all who responded. Though wireless routers are inexpensive, I
wanted to avoid purchasing one unnecessarily. Can't get around it,
though.

Thanks again,
Greg
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bobb

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:25 am
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On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:25:06 -0500, Greg Berchin
<76145.2455.RemoveThis@compuswerve.com> wrote:

 >Thanks to all who responded. Though wireless routers are inexpensive, I
 >wanted to avoid purchasing one unnecessarily. Can't get around it,
 >though.
 >
 >Thanks again,
 >Greg


As a brain-teaser only, u maybe able to daisy-chain the machines using
ICS, but all machines must on ON all the time, and again, no
protection. Frankly I go get a second job first before I had to go
through that hassle.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Rama

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:49 am
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Indeed a Brain teaser ... Smile
U could connect one PC (A) to the Internet via the Access point in the
infrastructure mode. Also has ICS setup.
Other PCs connect to PC (A) in Adhoc mode... I guess this would work.

In case the PC (A) is not on, other PCs may directly connect to the
internet using the Access Point!

bobb wrote:
 > On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:25:06 -0500, Greg Berchin
 > <76145.2455 RemoveThis @compuswerve.com> wrote:
 >
  > >Thanks to all who responded. Though wireless routers are inexpensive, I
  > >wanted to avoid purchasing one unnecessarily. Can't get around it,
  > >though.
  > >
  > >Thanks again,
  > >Greg
 >
 >
 > As a brain-teaser only, u maybe able to daisy-chain the machines using
 > ICS, but all machines must on ON all the time, and again, no
 > protection. Frankly I go get a second job first before I had to go
 > through that hassle.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:50 pm
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Hey Greg, As I'm sure you know by now you really shouldn't listen to most people because more often than not they don't know what they are talking about. If you don't want to buy a router you don't need to as long as you have an extra ethernet PCI card. All you need to do is install this extra card to the same computer that your dsl modem is connected to then use a crossover cable to connect your access point to this card. You can then connect wirelessly as many computers as your access point will allow. If you're using windows play around with windows networking until you figure it out. I know it works because i've been using this setup for over 3 years. I know that there are companies that don't want the public to know that this is possible but oh well. Good Luck.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:29 pm
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On 19 Jul 2005 00:36:14 -0400, meterReader <UseLinkToEmail.RemoveThis@HardwareForumz.com>
wrote:

>"" wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Well, I did a Google search and, if I found the information
> > that I want,
> > I didn't understand it. So I'll just come right out and ask.
> >
> > I have three computers with 802.11g wireless cards already
> > installed. I
> > also just happen to have a wireless access point, Belkin
> > F5D7130. I do
> > NOT have a router.
> >
> > I have no need for the computers to talk to each other, but I
> > would like
> > for all of them to have Internet access. Can I connect the
> > WAP directly
> > to the Ethernet port on the cable or DSL modem? If I do, and
> > it works,
> > are there any pitfalls that I should know about?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
>
>Hey Greg, As I’m sure you know by now you really shouldn’t listen to
>most people because more often than not they don’t know what they are
>talking about. If you don’t want to buy a router you don’t need to as
>long as you have an extra ethernet PCI card. All you need to do is
>install this extra card to the same computer that your dsl modem is
>connected to then use a crossover cable to connect your access point
>to this card. You can then connect wirelessly as many computers as
>your access point will allow. If you’re using windows play around
>with windows networking until you figure it out. I know it works
>because i’ve been using this setup for over 3 years. I know that
>there are companies that don’t want the public to know that this is
>possible but oh well. Good Luck.

In light of wireless routers currently available at dirt cheap prices, why
would one want to be stuck with a "wireless solution" that requires a wired
computer to be powered up and running a proxy agent all the time.

I'd spend the small money on a router, place the WAP at the other end of the
building and wire it to the router. Makes *much* more sense...
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