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Since: Sep 30, 2003 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:42 pm
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I am new to this so please forgive................
sys spcs
GB GA-81K1100 board, 1gb pc2100 (until I get paid again) ram, GB Radeon
9800pro 256 agp card
If agp 4 is approx 3 volts and 8X is 1.5 volts then would you DROP incoming
voltage to OC the card?
and if so what are the figures to start with? 1 volt maybe? and besides
3dmark are there any quick benchmarks to see if it gains? I know that any
gains would not show in the gigabyte desktop utility.
second question is what are the gains in changing ddr voltages?
and is 60c max to hot ? I still need to get 2 more fans.
also, would having a fan on top bringing in cooler air from a source about 3
feet away (ducted) a good idea? aiming air conditioner on unit dropped temp
about 5 degrees but the flow really was not near cpu.
thanks
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Since: Dec 30, 2003 Posts: 290
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:42 pm
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"Dave M" <dmacleo DeleteThis @midmaine.com> wrote in message
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> I am new to this so please forgive................
We all were once ;>)
> sys spcs
> GB GA-81K1100 board, 1gb pc2100 (until I get paid again) ram, GB Radeon
> 9800pro 256 agp card
>
> If agp 4 is approx 3 volts and 8X is 1.5 volts then would you DROP
incoming
> voltage to OC the card?
> and if so what are the figures to start with? 1 volt maybe? and besides
> 3dmark are there any quick benchmarks to see if it gains? I know that any
> gains would not show in the gigabyte desktop utility.
There is absolutely nothing to be gained by overvolting your video card --
except too much heat. Stick with the default, which should auto detect.
Overclock the card if you want, (though it's really fast already,) but don't
mess with the voltage. Best video benchmark, at least for gamers, is 3DMark
2003. You can download it at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.futuremark.com" target="_blank">www.futuremark.com</a>
>
> second question is what are the gains in changing ddr voltages?
Again, there is no need to change them from the default unless you have a
stability problem, or unless the manufacturer recopmmends something higher.
Search for MemTest86 and Prime95, two torture tests for ram. If it passes
those tests for an hour or more, no need to worry. If it fails, you can try
increasing the voltage (or easing up on the timings.) My Buffalo Tech
PC3700, for instance, defaulted to 2.6v, but needed 2.8 to be fully stable
at 220 mhz.
If you stick to the rated speed of the ram or just a little higher, you may
not need to up the voltage -- which will mean it will run cooler and last
longer.
> and is 60c max to hot ? I still need to get 2 more fans.
Nope. That's pretty normal.
> also, would having a fan on top bringing in cooler air from a source about
3
> feet away (ducted) a good idea? aiming air conditioner on unit dropped
temp
> about 5 degrees but the flow really was not near cpu.
> thanks
Usually people who cut blowholes in the top of a case have the fan pulling
air out -- hot air rises.
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Since: Sep 12, 2003 Posts: 68
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:42 pm
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your time is out btw.....
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"Dave M" <dmacleo DeleteThis @midmaine.com> wrote in message
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> I am new to this so please forgive................
> sys spcs
> GB GA-81K1100 board, 1gb pc2100 (until I get paid again) ram, GB Radeon
> 9800pro 256 agp card
>
> If agp 4 is approx 3 volts and 8X is 1.5 volts then would you DROP
incoming
> voltage to OC the card?
> and if so what are the figures to start with? 1 volt maybe? and besides
> 3dmark are there any quick benchmarks to see if it gains? I know that any
> gains would not show in the gigabyte desktop utility.
>
> second question is what are the gains in changing ddr voltages?
>
> and is 60c max to hot ? I still need to get 2 more fans.
>
> also, would having a fan on top bringing in cooler air from a source about
3
> feet away (ducted) a good idea? aiming air conditioner on unit dropped
temp
> about 5 degrees but the flow really was not near cpu.
> thanks
>
>
>
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:58 pm
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Thanks, I will check those items out.
I was concerned about bringing in air from the top due to the rise, but
really can't see a way around it. all the other fans are designed (monarch
cs305 case) to suck air out from case. This case also has a side fan running
close to opposite of cpu fan. I was thinking (maybe incorrectly) that there
would be anough negative pressure in case to alleviate the top hot air
issue.
I will rethink this before commiting ( something I don't normally do,lol)
but may have to run a tube inside to get cooler air next to cpu. have to do
it cheaplt though, spent all my money on this.lol
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>
> "Dave M" <dmacleo.DeleteThis@midmaine.com> wrote in message
> news:3f786fa2_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
> > I am new to this so please forgive................
>
> We all were once ;>)
>
> > sys spcs
> > GB GA-81K1100 board, 1gb pc2100 (until I get paid again) ram, GB Radeon
> > 9800pro 256 agp card
> >
> > If agp 4 is approx 3 volts and 8X is 1.5 volts then would you DROP
> incoming
> > voltage to OC the card?
> > and if so what are the figures to start with? 1 volt maybe? and besides
> > 3dmark are there any quick benchmarks to see if it gains? I know that
any
> > gains would not show in the gigabyte desktop utility.
>
> There is absolutely nothing to be gained by overvolting your video card --
> except too much heat. Stick with the default, which should auto detect.
>
> Overclock the card if you want, (though it's really fast already,) but
don't
> mess with the voltage. Best video benchmark, at least for gamers, is
3DMark
<font color=purple> > 2003. You can download it at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.futuremark.com</font" target="_blank">www.futuremark.com</font</a>>
>
> >
> > second question is what are the gains in changing ddr voltages?
>
> Again, there is no need to change them from the default unless you have a
> stability problem, or unless the manufacturer recopmmends something
higher.
> Search for MemTest86 and Prime95, two torture tests for ram. If it passes
> those tests for an hour or more, no need to worry. If it fails, you can
try
> increasing the voltage (or easing up on the timings.) My Buffalo Tech
> PC3700, for instance, defaulted to 2.6v, but needed 2.8 to be fully stable
> at 220 mhz.
>
> If you stick to the rated speed of the ram or just a little higher, you
may
> not need to up the voltage -- which will mean it will run cooler and last
> longer.
>
> > and is 60c max to hot ? I still need to get 2 more fans.
>
> Nope. That's pretty normal.
>
> > also, would having a fan on top bringing in cooler air from a source
about
> 3
> > feet away (ducted) a good idea? aiming air conditioner on unit dropped
> temp
> > about 5 degrees but the flow really was not near cpu.
> > thanks
>
> Usually people who cut blowholes in the top of a case have the fan pulling
> air out -- hot air rises.
>
>
> >
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:58 pm
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"Dave M" <dmacleo RemoveThis @midmaine.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks, I will check those items out.
> I was concerned about bringing in air from the top due to the rise, but
> really can't see a way around it. all the other fans are designed (monarch
> cs305 case) to suck air out from case. This case also has a side fan
running
> close to opposite of cpu fan.
Any reason why you could flip the side fan to pull cool air in, especially
if it's right over the cpu?
I'm not familiar with that case, but most of them suck cool air in at the
bottom front and blow hot air out the top rear. Those without fans in the
front do count on negative air pressure to pull in outside air.
The best test of efficientcy is to simply monitor the temps. If, as you
said, the cpu never gets above 60 I wouldn't worry much about cutting any
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Since: Sep 12, 2003 Posts: 85
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:58 pm
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The fact that hot air rises is of very little consequence for forced air
circulation. Passive convection depends entirely on the fact that hot air
rises, but then the effect depends on how tall your "chimney", the
temperature, and the temperature differential. A ten meter chimney,
ambient air at 20 degrees C, and a 500 degree C differential; well, then you
really have something. A 40 cm chimeny, ambient air at 20 degrees C, a 40
degree C differential, well, then you have a pressure differential that is
overwhelmed by a fan.
Phil Weldon, pweldon.RemoveThis@mindspring.com
"Dave M" <dmacleo.RemoveThis@midmaine.com> wrote in message
news:3f788161_8@corp.newsgroups.com...
> Thanks, I will check those items out.
> I was concerned about bringing in air from the top due to the rise, but
> really can't see a way around it. all the other fans are designed (monarch
> cs305 case) to suck air out from case. This case also has a side fan
running
> close to opposite of cpu fan. I was thinking (maybe incorrectly) that
there
> would be anough negative pressure in case to alleviate the top hot air
> issue.
> I will rethink this before commiting ( something I don't normally do,lol)
> but may have to run a tube inside to get cooler air next to cpu. have to
do
> it cheaplt though, spent all my money on this.lol
>
>
> "Skid" <skid2.RemoveThis@comcast.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:ja%db.183893$mp.97567@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> >
> > "Dave M" <dmacleo.RemoveThis@midmaine.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f786fa2_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
> > > I am new to this so please forgive................
> >
> > We all were once ;>)
> >
> > > sys spcs
> > > GB GA-81K1100 board, 1gb pc2100 (until I get paid again) ram, GB
Radeon
> > > 9800pro 256 agp card
> > >
> > > If agp 4 is approx 3 volts and 8X is 1.5 volts then would you DROP
> > incoming
> > > voltage to OC the card?
> > > and if so what are the figures to start with? 1 volt maybe? and
besides
> > > 3dmark are there any quick benchmarks to see if it gains? I know that
> any
> > > gains would not show in the gigabyte desktop utility.
> >
> > There is absolutely nothing to be gained by overvolting your video
card --
> > except too much heat. Stick with the default, which should auto detect.
> >
> > Overclock the card if you want, (though it's really fast already,) but
> don't
> > mess with the voltage. Best video benchmark, at least for gamers, is
> 3DMark
<font color=green> > > 2003. You can download it at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.futuremark.com</font" target="_blank">www.futuremark.com</font</a>>
> >
> > >
> > > second question is what are the gains in changing ddr voltages?
> >
> > Again, there is no need to change them from the default unless you have
a
> > stability problem, or unless the manufacturer recopmmends something
> higher.
> > Search for MemTest86 and Prime95, two torture tests for ram. If it
passes
> > those tests for an hour or more, no need to worry. If it fails, you can
> try
> > increasing the voltage (or easing up on the timings.) My Buffalo Tech
> > PC3700, for instance, defaulted to 2.6v, but needed 2.8 to be fully
stable
> > at 220 mhz.
> >
> > If you stick to the rated speed of the ram or just a little higher, you
> may
> > not need to up the voltage -- which will mean it will run cooler and
last
> > longer.
> >
> > > and is 60c max to hot ? I still need to get 2 more fans.
> >
> > Nope. That's pretty normal.
> >
> > > also, would having a fan on top bringing in cooler air from a source
> about
> > 3
> > > feet away (ducted) a good idea? aiming air conditioner on unit dropped
> > temp
> > > about 5 degrees but the flow really was not near cpu.
> > > thanks
> >
> > Usually people who cut blowholes in the top of a case have the fan
pulling
> > air out -- hot air rises.
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:58 pm
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Dave M wrote:
> Thanks, I will check those items out.
> I was concerned about bringing in air from the top due to the rise, but
> really can't see a way around it. all the other fans are designed (monarch
> cs305 case) to suck air out from case. This case also has a side fan running
> close to opposite of cpu fan. I was thinking (maybe incorrectly) that there
> would be anough negative pressure in case to alleviate the top hot air
> issue.
> I will rethink this before commiting ( something I don't normally do,lol)
> but may have to run a tube inside to get cooler air next to cpu. have to do
> it cheaplt though, spent all my money on this.lol
If this is the case
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then you shouldn't need to be punching any new holes in it unless you've
shoved a 2KW space heater in there or something.
If you feel you need more than the two rears and side fan then add the front
intake but, past that, if you've got CPU temp problems I doubt it's because of
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:58 pm
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"Phil Weldon" <pweldon.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> The fact that hot air rises is of very little consequence for forced air
> circulation. Passive convection depends entirely on the fact that hot air
> rises, but then the effect depends on how tall your "chimney", the
> temperature, and the temperature differential. A ten meter chimney,
> ambient air at 20 degrees C, and a 500 degree C differential; well, then
you
> really have something. A 40 cm chimeny, ambient air at 20 degrees C, a 40
> degree C differential, well, then you have a pressure differential that is
> overwhelmed by a fan.
Can't argue with that. But we've not talking huge differentials here, and
most mid-towers are created more-or-less equal in height.
The conventional wisdom is that blowholes on top of a case exhaust air
upwards. Are you arguing the counterpoint or just slicing and dicing theory?
At any rate, I'm not sure the OP is going to have much luck pulling cool air
from a source several feet away with an intake fan on top of his PC.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: agp vpltage and ddr voltage ?? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:58 pm
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My post is in reply to the original poster's concern about bringing air in
at the top. The information I gave is that it would not be a problem
because even though warmer air IS lighter than cooler air, in this case the
effect is not significant.
It is certainly true that a "blowhole" on top of a case would, if it
exhausts air, the direction would necessarily be upward. It is also true
that this piece of 'convential wisdom' is less than useful. A much better
solution is to have a fan blow external air directly onto the CPU heatsink
(with the CPU heatsink fan set to blow air (in the same direction) into the
heatsink.) Then exhaust the air from the heatsink however is convenient.
There ought to be additional air flow for additional cooling of the other
components with a volume sufficient to keep the ambient temperature inside
the case at a reasonable level. That flow can start at the top, bottom,
side, wherever, with no particular consequences.
I am not slicing and dicing, I just state that powered blowholes at the top
are no better than powered blowholes on the side, rear, or bottom, and that
circulation paths within the case and convenient location of fans are more
important concerns than placing 'blowholes' on the top.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:52 pm
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The way it is set up not really.
I was looking at that after the last post but it looks like it would be a
mess.
I have a top hole precut that just needs fan added.
Perhaps forcing in from front would be better. Ill have to open it up and
look again.
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> "Dave M" <dmacleo.DeleteThis@midmaine.com> wrote in message
> news:3f788161_8@corp.newsgroups.com...
> > Thanks, I will check those items out.
> > I was concerned about bringing in air from the top due to the rise, but
> > really can't see a way around it. all the other fans are designed
(monarch
> > cs305 case) to suck air out from case. This case also has a side fan
> running
> > close to opposite of cpu fan.
>
> Any reason why you could flip the side fan to pull cool air in, especially
> if it's right over the cpu?
>
> I'm not familiar with that case, but most of them suck cool air in at the
> bottom front and blow hot air out the top rear. Those without fans in the
> front do count on negative air pressure to pull in outside air.
>
> The best test of efficientcy is to simply monitor the temps. If, as you
> said, the cpu never gets above 60 I wouldn't worry much about cutting any
> more holes.
>
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:06 pm
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I was going to duct it 2 feet to the air conditioner. would be forced into
duct then fan taakes over.
MAYBE!!
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> "Phil Weldon" <pweldon DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:Rs0eb.35236$pP6.33785@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > The fact that hot air rises is of very little consequence for forced air
> > circulation. Passive convection depends entirely on the fact that hot
air
> > rises, but then the effect depends on how tall your "chimney", the
> > temperature, and the temperature differential. A ten meter chimney,
> > ambient air at 20 degrees C, and a 500 degree C differential; well, then
> you
> > really have something. A 40 cm chimeny, ambient air at 20 degrees C, a
40
> > degree C differential, well, then you have a pressure differential that
is
> > overwhelmed by a fan.
>
> Can't argue with that. But we've not talking huge differentials here, and
> most mid-towers are created more-or-less equal in height.
>
> The conventional wisdom is that blowholes on top of a case exhaust air
> upwards. Are you arguing the counterpoint or just slicing and dicing
theory?
>
> At any rate, I'm not sure the OP is going to have much luck pulling cool
air
> from a source several feet away with an intake fan on top of his PC.
>
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:29 pm
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That is the one. there is a top hole for a fan so no new hole is needed.
the real problem is where the pc HAS to sit is enclosed.I think getting
coller air from a source about 18 inches away would be beneficial.
I am not going to cut anything, to new at this to try.
also, am unfamilar with what acceptable cpu temps are so I may be worrying
to much for nothing. max I have seen it is 145F when gaming.
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> Dave M wrote:
> > Thanks, I will check those items out.
> > I was concerned about bringing in air from the top due to the rise, but
> > really can't see a way around it. all the other fans are designed
(monarch
> > cs305 case) to suck air out from case. This case also has a side fan
running
> > close to opposite of cpu fan. I was thinking (maybe incorrectly) that
there
> > would be anough negative pressure in case to alleviate the top hot air
> > issue.
> > I will rethink this before commiting ( something I don't normally
do,lol)
> > but may have to run a tube inside to get cooler air next to cpu. have to
do
> > it cheaplt though, spent all my money on this.lol
>
> If this is the case
>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=100582" target="_blank">http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store...de=M&Pr</a>
> then you shouldn't need to be punching any new holes in it unless you've
> shoved a 2KW space heater in there or something.
>
> If you feel you need more than the two rears and side fan then add the
front
> intake but, past that, if you've got CPU temp problems I doubt it's
because of
> case ventilation.
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Since: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 1478
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:29 pm
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Dave M wrote:
> That is the one. there is a top hole for a fan so no new hole is needed.
> the real problem is where the pc HAS to sit is enclosed.I think getting
> coller air from a source about 18 inches away would be beneficial.
> I am not going to cut anything, to new at this to try.
I see. Yes, the enclosed situation is going to increase case and CPU temps above
that with free airflow and pulling cooler in from somewhere might improve them.
> also, am unfamilar with what acceptable cpu temps are so I may be worrying
> to much for nothing. max I have seen it is 145F when gaming.
145F under full load isn't a cooling record but neither is it shockingly hot.
>
> "David Maynard" <dNOTmayn.DeleteThis@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:3F78F345.5020605@ev1.net...
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>>Dave M wrote:
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>>>Thanks, I will check those items out.
>>>I was concerned about bringing in air from the top due to the rise, but
>>>really can't see a way around it. all the other fans are designed
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> (monarch
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>>>cs305 case) to suck air out from case. This case also has a side fan
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> running
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>>>close to opposite of cpu fan. I was thinking (maybe incorrectly) that
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> there
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>>>would be anough negative pressure in case to alleviate the top hot air
>>>issue.
>>>I will rethink this before commiting ( something I don't normally
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> do,lol)
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>>>but may have to run a tube inside to get cooler air next to cpu. have to
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> do
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>>>it cheaplt though, spent all my money on this.lol
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>>If this is the case
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<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=100582</font" target="_blank">http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store...de=M&Pr</a>>
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>> then you shouldn't need to be punching any new holes in it unless you've
>>shoved a 2KW space heater in there or something.
>>
>>If you feel you need more than the two rears and side fan then add the
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> front
>
>>intake but, past that, if you've got CPU temp problems I doubt it's
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> because of
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>>case ventilation.
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Since: Sep 30, 2003 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:30 pm
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so is my tongue but...........................
hehe
"Adam Webb" <adam.DeleteThis@ajmysecondname.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> your time is out btw.....
>
> --
> From Adam Webb, Overlag
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> "Dave M" <dmacleo.DeleteThis@midmaine.com> wrote in message
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> > I am new to this so please forgive................
> > sys spcs
> > GB GA-81K1100 board, 1gb pc2100 (until I get paid again) ram, GB Radeon
> > 9800pro 256 agp card
> >
> > If agp 4 is approx 3 volts and 8X is 1.5 volts then would you DROP
> incoming
> > voltage to OC the card?
> > and if so what are the figures to start with? 1 volt maybe? and besides
> > 3dmark are there any quick benchmarks to see if it gains? I know that
any
> > gains would not show in the gigabyte desktop utility.
> >
> > second question is what are the gains in changing ddr voltages?
> >
> > and is 60c max to hot ? I still need to get 2 more fans.
> >
> > also, would having a fan on top bringing in cooler air from a source
about
> 3
> > feet away (ducted) a good idea? aiming air conditioner on unit dropped
> temp
> > about 5 degrees but the flow really was not near cpu.
> > thanks
> >
> >
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:30 pm
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what is the future like
lol
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> so is my tongue but...........................
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> hehe
>
> "Adam Webb" <adam RemoveThis @ajmysecondname.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > your time is out btw.....
> >
> > --
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> >
> > "Dave M" <dmacleo RemoveThis @midmaine.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f786fa2_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
> > > I am new to this so please forgive................
> > > sys spcs
> > > GB GA-81K1100 board, 1gb pc2100 (until I get paid again) ram, GB
Radeon
> > > 9800pro 256 agp card
> > >
> > > If agp 4 is approx 3 volts and 8X is 1.5 volts then would you DROP
> > incoming
> > > voltage to OC the card?
> > > and if so what are the figures to start with? 1 volt maybe? and
besides
> > > 3dmark are there any quick benchmarks to see if it gains? I know that
> any
> > > gains would not show in the gigabyte desktop utility.
> > >
> > > second question is what are the gains in changing ddr voltages?
> > >
> > > and is 60c max to hot ? I still need to get 2 more fans.
> > >
> > > also, would having a fan on top bringing in cooler air from a source
> about
> > 3
> > > feet away (ducted) a good idea? aiming air conditioner on unit dropped
> > temp
> > > about 5 degrees but the flow really was not near cpu.
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
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