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Chilly B. Willy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:28 pm
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Is the sempron 2600+ the same as the Athalon 2600+.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:57 am
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SDA2800DUT3D 2.0GHz
SDA2600DUT3D 1.833GHz
SDA2500DUT3D 1.75GHz
SDA2400DUT3D 1.667GHz
SDA2300DUT3D 1.583GHz
SDA2200DUT3D 1.5GHz

Sempron(Socket A) Example:
SD A 2800 D U T 3 D
SD = Brand: AMD Sempron™
A = Power Limit: 62W
2800 = Model Number (Sempron 3100+ Thoroughbred)
D = Package 462 Pin OPGA(Organic Pin Grid Array)
U = Operating Voltage: 1.60V
T = Max Die Temperature: 90º Celsius
3 = L2 Cache 256KByte
D = Max FSB: 333MHz


AXDA2500DKV4D 333FSB 1.83Ghz Multiplier=11x
AXDL2500DLV4D 333FSB Low Power
AXDA2600DKV4D 333FSB 1.91Ghz Multiplier=11.5x
AXDA2800DKV4D 333FSB 2.08Ghz Multiplier=12.5x
AXDL2800DLV4D 333FSB Low Power
AXDA3000DKV4D 333FSB 2.17Ghz Multiplier=13x
AXDA3000DKV4E 400 FSB 2.1Ghz Multiplier=10.5x
AXDA3200DKV4E 400 FSB 2.2Ghz Multiplier=11x

Athlon XP(Barton) Example:
AXD A 3200 D K V 4 E
AXD = AMD Athlon™ XP Processor Model 10
A = Desktop Processor
3200 = Model Number (Athlon XP 3200+ Barton)
D = Package Type: OPGA(Organic Pin Grid Array)
K = Operating Voltage: 1.65V(L=1.50V, U=1.60V)
V = Die Temperature: 85º Celsius(T=90º Celsius)
4 = Size of L2 Cache: 512KBytes(3=256Kbytes)
E = Max FSB: 400MHz(C=266MHz, D=333MHz)


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:26 am
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:36:39 GMT, Wes Newell
<w.newell RemoveThis @TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:28:03 -0800, Chilly B. Willy wrote:
>
>> Is the sempron 2600+ the same as the Athalon 2600+.
>>
>No. Assuming you're talking about socket A (462), it would be about the
>same as an Athlon XP 2200+. See Sempron on My Server in sigline.


Intresting. I have a MSI board that I just updated the bios on. Its
got an Duron 1GHz CPU on board. It says it'll now take a Athalon
2400+. Well I can't find any 2400+ anywhere, or at least not in my
price range. I can't see spending $140 for a old CPU. Anyway can I
put a faster Socket A cpu in this board and run it at 2400. There
just dosen't seem to be a lot of places I can ask this question.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:15 pm
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what msi board is it?


http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/Everest-Home-Edition.shtml

will get some info. what chipset does it have? what type and speed of memory are you using?



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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:55 pm
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Wes Newell wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:26:06 -0800, Chilly B. Willy wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:36:39 GMT, Wes Newell
>><w.newell DeleteThis @TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:28:03 -0800, Chilly B. Willy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is the sempron 2600+ the same as the Athalon 2600+.
>>>>
>>>
>>>No. Assuming you're talking about socket A (462), it would be about the
>>>same as an Athlon XP 2200+. See Sempron on My Server in sigline.
>>
>>Intresting. I have a MSI board that I just updated the bios on. Its
>>got an Duron 1GHz CPU on board. It says it'll now take a Athalon
>>2400+. Well I can't find any 2400+ anywhere, or at least not in my
>>price range. I can't see spending $140 for a old CPU. Anyway can I
>>put a faster Socket A cpu in this board and run it at 2400. There
>>just dosen't seem to be a lot of places I can ask this question.
>
>
> Well, looks like you'll be limted to a 133MHz fsb, but if you use an
> unlocked cpu, you can set the multiplier as high as 24x, so the max
> actual speed the board will support is 24x133. You can do the math. The
> problem is you aren't going to find a cheap socket A cpu that will work
> well unless you get awfully lucky. At this time, you'd be much better off
> buying a new socket 754 or 939 cpu/board combo and selling your old stuff
> on ebay. Frye's had a Socket 754 MB and Sempron 2600+ on sale a few weeks
> ago for about $75. I've also seen A64 3000+ cpu/mb combos on sale there
> for about $100. Use your current system til you see something good on sale
> and then jump on it. I think that's the best advice I can give you.

He may also be jumping into a new power supply, PCI-E graphics card, DDR
memory...
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:59 am
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:47:40 GMT, Wes Newell
<w.newell DeleteThis @TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:26:06 -0800, Chilly B. Willy wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:36:39 GMT, Wes Newell
>> <w.newell DeleteThis @TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:28:03 -0800, Chilly B. Willy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is the sempron 2600+ the same as the Athalon 2600+.
>>>>
>>>No. Assuming you're talking about socket A (462), it would be about the
>>>same as an Athlon XP 2200+. See Sempron on My Server in sigline.
>>
>> Intresting. I have a MSI board that I just updated the bios on. Its
>> got an Duron 1GHz CPU on board. It says it'll now take a Athalon
>> 2400+. Well I can't find any 2400+ anywhere, or at least not in my
>> price range. I can't see spending $140 for a old CPU. Anyway can I
>> put a faster Socket A cpu in this board and run it at 2400. There
>> just dosen't seem to be a lot of places I can ask this question.
>
>Well, looks like you'll be limted to a 133MHz fsb, but if you use an
>unlocked cpu, you can set the multiplier as high as 24x, so the max
>actual speed the board will support is 24x133. You can do the math. The
>problem is you aren't going to find a cheap socket A cpu that will work
>well unless you get awfully lucky. At this time, you'd be much better off
>buying a new socket 754 or 939 cpu/board combo and selling your old stuff
>on ebay. Frye's had a Socket 754 MB and Sempron 2600+ on sale a few weeks
>ago for about $75. I've also seen A64 3000+ cpu/mb combos on sale there
>for about $100. Use your current system til you see something good on sale
>and then jump on it. I think that's the best advice I can give you.

Lets put it this way. I don't really want a sempron but if I can't
get the athalon I'll take a sempron. There is no way on gods green
earth I'll update to a sempron. I'd go with the fastest I can get.
When I got this board it was the fastest at the time.

My mobo is socket A. All I want to do is upgrade it to a higher proc.

this computer is just a kick around machine. For my main machine I've
got a 3GHz machine.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:01 am
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:44:49 GMT, terrapin <cloudster.TakeThisOut@iname.com>
wrote:

>Wes Newell wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:26:06 -0800, Chilly B. Willy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:36:39 GMT, Wes Newell
>>><w.newell.TakeThisOut@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:28:03 -0800, Chilly B. Willy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Is the sempron 2600+ the same as the Athalon 2600+.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. Assuming you're talking about socket A (462), it would be about the
>>>>same as an Athlon XP 2200+. See Sempron on My Server in sigline.
>>>
>>>Intresting. I have a MSI board that I just updated the bios on. Its
>>>got an Duron 1GHz CPU on board. It says it'll now take a Athalon
>>>2400+. Well I can't find any 2400+ anywhere, or at least not in my
>>>price range. I can't see spending $140 for a old CPU. Anyway can I
>>>put a faster Socket A cpu in this board and run it at 2400. There
>>>just dosen't seem to be a lot of places I can ask this question.
>>
>>
>> Well, looks like you'll be limted to a 133MHz fsb, but if you use an
>> unlocked cpu, you can set the multiplier as high as 24x, so the max
>> actual speed the board will support is 24x133. You can do the math. The
>> problem is you aren't going to find a cheap socket A cpu that will work
>> well unless you get awfully lucky. At this time, you'd be much better off
>> buying a new socket 754 or 939 cpu/board combo and selling your old stuff
>> on ebay. Frye's had a Socket 754 MB and Sempron 2600+ on sale a few weeks
>> ago for about $75. I've also seen A64 3000+ cpu/mb combos on sale there
>> for about $100. Use your current system til you see something good on sale
>> and then jump on it. I think that's the best advice I can give you.
>
>He may also be jumping into a new power supply, PCI-E graphics card, DDR
>memory...

I forgot to mention it uses the old SDRAM. No DDR. I didn't buy this
originally, however I did put it together.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:48 pm
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i you have multiplier selection in the bios you may be able to run this.

http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product_info.php?products_id=4674

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