A big favor

"Wes Newell" <w.newell DeleteThis @TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:54:18 +0000, Joe_Z wrote:
>
>> I'm asking the pro's I'm sure so if anyone might find the time to link
>> to newegg and pick what you would build "today" as a clocking "budget"
>> system, please and thanks...
>>
>> Retail CPU-
>> Mobo -
>> PSU -
>> Ram -
>>
>> The rest I can figure out I think, excuse being so much trouble but it
>> is very appreciated...Joe
>
> A real pro would tell you that's not enough info to go on.He would ask
> for an intended use of the system and preferably exactly what apps you
> plan to be running. As an example;
>
> General home computer used for internet mostly with occasional office
> apps like word pro, etc. No or very little games.
>
> He'd also ask the max amount you'd want to spend on this since that would
> determine most of it. A budget system to me is under $300 minus printer
> and monitor. Since you're asking for just parts, how much is the max
> you're willing to spend on the parts? With that I could give you a best
> bang for the buck list.
>
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Your absolutely right Wes and that shows my greeness here and ask the
pro's to look past this and make an educated guess under "budget" system and
whatever that would cover, low priced but functional please and the system
will be used for possibly 2 or 3 formats, audio and video first thank you,
excuse again...Joe
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Joe_Z wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam RemoveThis @needed.com> wrote in message news:fg63t4$fab$1@aioe.org...
>> Joe_Z wrote:
>>> "Wes Newell" <w.newell RemoveThis @TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:h8tVi.9600$aJ3.2093@trnddc02...
>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:54:18 +0000, Joe_Z wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm asking the pro's I'm sure so if anyone might find the time to link
>>>>> to newegg and pick what you would build "today" as a clocking "budget"
>>>>> system, please and thanks...
>>>>>
>>>>> Retail CPU-
>>>>> Mobo -
>>>>> PSU -
>>>>> Ram -
>>>>>
>>>>> The rest I can figure out I think, excuse being so much trouble but it
>>>>> is very appreciated...Joe

>>
>
> Thank you, I'd just like a budget system without to many hardware
> issues if anyone has built one the past year or so, I understand there are
> countless things one can do with a computer but we are talking 64 not 32 now
> and that would/should give enough cycles to do these things I believe, ok
> then no links, nevermind, it was a shot in the dark that I thought I could
> get here...Joe
>

*******
This motherboard has built-in video. So no more money needed for a video card.

GIGABYTE GA-M61P-S3 AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813128034

Dual core processor. Comes with heatsink and fan.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Processor - Retail $88
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103749

Next, some RAM.

Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $51
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146569

The system so far, does not need a lot of power. The processor is 65W. The
entire system is probably no more than 150W or so.

Antec earthwatts (~80% efficiency) EA380 ATX12V v2.0 380W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL Retail $50
+3.3V@20A,+5V@20A,+12V1@17A,+12V2@17A,-12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2.5A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005

*******

Note - When installing the OS for your system, follow the instructions here.
There are a couple additional steps, after you've installed Windows. So do
what you'd normally do, then start reading here.

"Windows XP Multi Core config"
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416

The motherboard manual is here. This is a full sized ATX motherboard and
not a microATX. So the footprint is 12" by 9.6" wide.

http://asia.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manual_ga-m61p-s3_e.pdf

Picture of motherboard:
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-128-034-04.jpg

The motherboard has one IDE connector (lime green). That is suitable for an old IDE CDROM
and an old IDE hard drive, if you are reusing some parts. Unlike older motherboards,
the new motherboards now have more SATA connectors than IDE connectors.

The motherboard has built-in sound, built-in video (VGA connector), a built-in
Ethernet port for networking, and even has a Firewire chip, for connecting
a DV camera.

(Note - if you are reusing a computer monitor, it probably has
a VGA video connector. If buying a brand new LCD monitor, many of
the cheap ones have DVI only on them. I recommend to people, to buy a monitor
that has both a DVI connector and a VGA connector, and in this case, you'd
use the VGA to connect to the motherboard video output.)

The support CPU list is here. The 65W 4600+ is listed:

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_List.aspx?ProductID=2434

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2400Mhz 512KBx2 Windsor 90nm F3 65W 2000 F3

Total cost for the above so far: $75 + $88 + $51 + $50 = $264

The power supply has a mail in rebate, so you can get a few bucks back on that.

The above system is good for:

1) Email, Microsoft Office
2) Web surfing
3) Playing "the SIMs" with built-in 3D, no good for "Oblivion" (which uses heavy 3D)
4) Could RIP DVDs, edit video, maybe a little slow for that.
5) Enough memory for WinXP or Vista

HTH,
Paul
 >> Stay informed about: A big favor 

"Paul" <nospam DeleteThis @needed.com> wrote in message news:fg82gh$i90$1@aioe.org...
> Joe_Z wrote:
>> "Paul" <nospam DeleteThis @needed.com> wrote in message news:fg63t4$fab$1@aioe.org...
>>> Joe_Z wrote:
>>>> "Wes Newell" <w.newell DeleteThis @TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:h8tVi.9600$aJ3.2093@trnddc02...
>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:54:18 +0000, Joe_Z wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm asking the pro's I'm sure so if anyone might find the time to
>>>>>> link
>>>>>> to newegg and pick what you would build "today" as a clocking
>>>>>> "budget"
>>>>>> system, please and thanks...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Retail CPU-
>>>>>> Mobo -
>>>>>> PSU -
>>>>>> Ram -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rest I can figure out I think, excuse being so much trouble but
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is very appreciated...Joe
>
>>>
>>
>> Thank you, I'd just like a budget system without to many hardware
>> issues if anyone has built one the past year or so, I understand there
>> are countless things one can do with a computer but we are talking 64 not
>> 32 now and that would/should give enough cycles to do these things I
>> believe, ok then no links, nevermind, it was a shot in the dark that I
>> thought I could get here...Joe
>>
>
> *******
> This motherboard has built-in video. So no more money needed for a video
> card.
>
> GIGABYTE GA-M61P-S3 AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
> $75
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813128034
>
> Dual core processor. Comes with heatsink and fan.
>
> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W
> Processor - Retail $88
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103749
>
> Next, some RAM.
>
> Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Dual Channel
> Kit Desktop Memory $51
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146569
>
> The system so far, does not need a lot of power. The processor is 65W. The
> entire system is probably no more than 150W or so.
>
> Antec earthwatts (~80% efficiency) EA380 ATX12V v2.0 380W Power Supply
> 100 - 240 V UL Retail $50
> +3.3V@20A,+5V@20A,+12V1@17A,+12V2@17A,-12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2.5A
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005
>
> *******
>
> Note - When installing the OS for your system, follow the instructions
> here.
> There are a couple additional steps, after you've installed Windows. So do
> what you'd normally do, then start reading here.
>
> "Windows XP Multi Core config"
> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416
>
> The motherboard manual is here. This is a full sized ATX motherboard and
> not a microATX. So the footprint is 12" by 9.6" wide.
>
> http://asia.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manual_ga-m61p-s3_e.pdf
>
> Picture of motherboard:
> http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-128-034-04.jpg
>
> The motherboard has one IDE connector (lime green). That is suitable for
> an old IDE CDROM
> and an old IDE hard drive, if you are reusing some parts. Unlike older
> motherboards,
> the new motherboards now have more SATA connectors than IDE connectors.
>
> The motherboard has built-in sound, built-in video (VGA connector), a
> built-in
> Ethernet port for networking, and even has a Firewire chip, for connecting
> a DV camera.
>
> (Note - if you are reusing a computer monitor, it probably has
> a VGA video connector. If buying a brand new LCD monitor, many of
> the cheap ones have DVI only on them. I recommend to people, to buy a
> monitor
> that has both a DVI connector and a VGA connector, and in this case, you'd
> use the VGA to connect to the motherboard video output.)
>
> The support CPU list is here. The 65W 4600+ is listed:
>
> http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_List.aspx?ProductID=2434
>
> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2400Mhz 512KBx2 Windsor 90nm F3 65W
> 2000 F3
>
> Total cost for the above so far: $75 + $88 + $51 + $50 = $264
>
> The power supply has a mail in rebate, so you can get a few bucks back on
> that.
>
> The above system is good for:
>
> 1) Email, Microsoft Office
> 2) Web surfing
> 3) Playing "the SIMs" with built-in 3D, no good for "Oblivion" (which uses
> heavy 3D)
> 4) Could RIP DVDs, edit video, maybe a little slow for that.
> 5) Enough memory for WinXP or Vista
>
> HTH,
> Paul
>

Many Thanks, I have decided to build 2 systems so I'm pretty sure one
will function correctly and I can swap hardware around to get the best
config on one and add to the other, I can wait a few years for quad like
I've done 64, I saved and did without the headaches also, thanks again for
your help...Joe


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