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Roy Hann

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:55 pm
Post subject: Can't boot from CD-ROM
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I just replaced a dead motherboard with an 8S661FXMP-RZ (plus CPU, memory,
and a new p/s) in a case that already contained a DVD ROM, a pair of HDDs
(with W2K installed), and a wireless card. I am pretty sure most of it is
working because I can boot from floppy, and I can get W2K to start booting
until it blue-screens. (The blue screen is no surprise; I never expected it
to work, my point is only that it shows a substantial part of the system is
operational.)

I now want to re-install W2K, but I can't get the machine to boot from the
CD. I keep getting "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER".
I have tried the following:

1. different bootable CDs
2. made sure the DVD drive is strapped as the (only) master device
3. made sure the DVD is on IDE 2
4. set the BIOS boot order to CDROM then HDD then floppy
5. swapped DVD drives (system correctly detects and reports the new drive)
6. installed a new ribbon cable
7. (just for a laugh) swapped the DVD onto IDE 1 and the HDDs to IDE 2, then
back again
8. created a set of boot floppies using makeboot (first floppy errors out
with error 7)

So, what's left? A BIOS upgrade? That costs money. Is the BIOS likely to
be the problem? (FWIW it is Award 08/08/2005-SiS-661FX-6A7I4G0EC-00.)

This is my wife's machine, and her patience is wearing thin. My manhood is
being called into question. Help is urgently required.

Roy

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Joe

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:55 pm
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:15:06 -0000, "Roy Hann"
<specially.RemoveThis@processed.almost.meat> wrote:

>I just replaced a dead motherboard with an 8S661FXMP-RZ (plus CPU, memory,
>and a new p/s) in a case that already contained a DVD ROM, a pair of HDDs
>(with W2K installed), and a wireless card. I am pretty sure most of it is
>working because I can boot from floppy, and I can get W2K to start booting
>until it blue-screens. (The blue screen is no surprise; I never expected it
>to work, my point is only that it shows a substantial part of the system is
>operational.)
>
Does the CD boot in another PC?
If so, tried swapping out another CD drive?
Is it ATA100??
Tried 40 wire cable?
Is the master drive on the end connector if its 80 pin?
have you tried in PIO mode instead of DMA?
hope that helps,it is all I can think of now, but even so, Id still
try another cable. The cheap 80 pin cables are not reliable and you
have to connect the drives in the correct order . That could cause
blue screen too. Try a different memory stick if all fails, if it is
not te cable, I believe the BSOD and CD not booting may be related, so
strip it down to minimum and see if you can start W2K.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:55 am
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"Joe" <nopamforme DeleteThis @please.com> wrote in message
news:m50ur1dioejeva69q0irrechtiap89me4i@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:15:06 -0000, "Roy Hann"
> <specially DeleteThis @processed.almost.meat> wrote:
>
> >I just replaced a dead motherboard with an 8S661FXMP-RZ (plus CPU,
memory,
> >and a new p/s) in a case that already contained a DVD ROM, a pair of HDDs
> >(with W2K installed), and a wireless card. I am pretty sure most of it
is
> >working because I can boot from floppy, and I can get W2K to start
booting
> >until it blue-screens. (The blue screen is no surprise; I never expected
it
> >to work, my point is only that it shows a substantial part of the system
is
> >operational.)
> >
> Does the CD boot in another PC?

Yes.

> If so, tried swapping out another CD drive?

Yes.

> Is it ATA100??

No.

> Tried 40 wire cable?

I'm not familiar with the term. What is that? I already replaced what I
referred to as the ribbon-cable.

> Is the master drive on the end connector if its 80 pin?

Yes.

> have you tried in PIO mode instead of DMA?

No. Will try that (if I can figure out how).

> hope that helps,it is all I can think of now, but even so, Id still
> try another cable. The cheap 80 pin cables are not reliable and you
> have to connect the drives in the correct order . That could cause
> blue screen too.

The BSOD is almost certainly due to trying to boot a W2K install that thinks
it is running on the old motherboard with all the old devices. It gets well
past the point where you can select select safe-mode and last known good
configuration. Whereas the CDROM boot problem crops up immediately, in the
BIOS.

> Try a different memory stick if all fails, if it is
> not te cable, I believe the BSOD and CD not booting may be related, so
> strip it down to minimum and see if you can start W2K.

That shouldn't take too long. The only thing in it that I can remove is the
wireless card. Smile I'll give it a whirl but I am sceptical. I'd be
astonished if W2K can tolerate the change of motherboard.

Next time it blue-screens I'll make a note of the exact error message but I
do remember it looked like it was complaining about missing/different
hardware.

Thanks for the suggestions. Watch this space.

Roy
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:55 pm
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"Roy Hann" <specially.DeleteThis@processed.almost.meat> wrote in message
news:1M-dnfAp9-KcTCPenZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d@pipex.net...
> I just replaced a dead motherboard with an 8S661FXMP-RZ (plus CPU, memory,
> and a new p/s) in a case that already contained a DVD ROM, a pair of HDDs
> (with W2K installed), and a wireless card. I am pretty sure most of it is
> working because I can boot from floppy, and I can get W2K to start booting
> until it blue-screens. (The blue screen is no surprise; I never expected
it
> to work, my point is only that it shows a substantial part of the system
is
> operational.)
>
> I now want to re-install W2K, but I can't get the machine to boot from the
> CD. I keep getting "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS
ENTER".
> I have tried the following:
[snip]

Problem fixed. The BIOS was set to auto-sense the IDE cable type. Manually
setting it to 40-conductor was all that was required. (I'm still not sure
what possessed me to try that of all things, but I'm calling it a win
anyway.)

My main problem now is that the on-board VGA is unimaginably worse than I
would have thought possible, so now I have to buy the video card I thought I
was going to be able to do without.

Roy
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