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RB

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:35 pm
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Hello -

Wondered if anyone could tell me if there's some means of making a
complete nightly image of a drive, so that in the event of a crash on
the main drive, the backup is ready to go, with absolutely no need for
application installation, drivers, etc?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:42 am
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RB wrote:
 > Hello -
 >
 > Wondered if anyone could tell me if there's some means of making a
 > complete nightly image of a drive, so that in the event of a crash on
 > the main drive, the backup is ready to go, with absolutely no need for
 > application installation, drivers, etc?


Sure. You can do this with Acronis TrueImage. Just schedule a nightly
backup and you'll be good to go. Make it an incremental backup to save
space.


-WD<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:58 am
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"RB" <rbaulbin.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Hello -
 >
 > Wondered if anyone could tell me if there's some means of making a
 > complete nightly image of a drive, so that in the event of a crash on
 > the main drive, the backup is ready to go, with absolutely no need for
 > application installation, drivers, etc?

There's Ghost, DriveImage and Acronis TrueImage.
Alternatively, if XP, W2K then one can mirror the HD and then keep the
mirror offline as a backup.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:24 pm
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RB <rbaulbin.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Wondered if anyone could tell me if there's some means of making a
 > complete nightly image of a drive, so that in the event of a crash on
 > the main drive, the backup is ready to go, with absolutely no need for
 > application installation, drivers, etc?

Yep, any of the decent imaging apps will do that.

That includes Ghost, Drive Image, True Image, etc etc etc.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:58 pm
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"Ron Reaugh" <ron-reaugh DeleteThis @worldnet.att.net> wrote:

 >"RB" <rbaulbin DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
 >news:6d7ed6d6.0404151535.2f2df7dd@posting.google.com...
  >> Hello -
  >>
  >> Wondered if anyone could tell me if there's some means of making a
  >> complete nightly image of a drive, so that in the event of a crash on
  >> the main drive, the backup is ready to go, with absolutely no need for
  >> application installation, drivers, etc?
 >
 >There's Ghost, DriveImage and Acronis TrueImage.
 >Alternatively, if XP, W2K then one can mirror the HD and then keep the
 >mirror offline as a backup.

Hey Ron, did you ever change your opinion on the quality of the last
few series of IBM hardrives? You used to be an adamant IBM supporter,
as I recall...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:21 pm
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In article <c5n94b$3ot3s$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de>,
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
 >
 >RB <rbaulbin DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
 >news:6d7ed6d6.0404151535.2f2df7dd@posting.google.com...
 >
  >> Wondered if anyone could tell me if there's some means of making a
  >> complete nightly image of a drive, so that in the event of a crash on
  >> the main drive, the backup is ready to go, with absolutely no need for
  >> application installation, drivers, etc?
 >
 >Yep, any of the decent imaging apps will do that.
 >
 >That includes Ghost, Drive Image, True Image, etc etc etc.

Rod, have you seen a credible review of these 3 anywhere?
Which would you recommend? Whatever you already have, or is there
some indispensible advantage of one or the other? (Speaking of which,
did you know that cemetries are full of indispensible people? Wink


Cheers, Phred.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:52 am
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Phred <ppnerkDELETETHIS DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Rod Speed <rod_speed DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote
  >> RB <rbaulbin DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote

   >>> Wondered if anyone could tell me if there's some means of
   >>> making a complete nightly image of a drive, so that in the
   >>> event of a crash on the main drive, the backup is ready to go,
   >>> with absolutely no need for application installation, drivers, etc?

  >> Yep, any of the decent imaging apps will do that.

  >> That includes Ghost, Drive Image, True Image, etc etc etc.

 > Rod, have you seen a credible review of these 3 anywhere?

Dont bother with those, I just use them instead.

 > Which would you recommend?

Depends on the circumstances.

Ghost as part of SystemWorks Pro 2003 is amazingly cheap off ebay.
The user interface isnt as good as with Drive Image, but there is one
hell of a difference in price thats hard to relate to the undoubtedly
rather minor advantage Drive Image has in the user interface.

If you want to image over your lan, its makes a big difference
whether the NIC is natively supported by the imaging program.
Its not that hard to add one that isnt supported with Drive Image.
It can be a real challenge with Ghost unless you know what you
are doing. But you can just use a universal lan boot disk instead.

PowerQuest has just been absorbed by Symantec
and it remains to be seen what that will produce.

There are also some other products like V2i Protector which go
a lot further than those more basic imaging apps, basically allowing
everything to be done that the Win level rather than the much cruder
approach that Ghost 2003 uses, doing all the word at the dos level.
And having incremental backup available. True Image does too.

True Image is a rather less mature product and uses Linux for
its restore boot particularly, and that can have some downsides
with hardware thats a bit unusual. I personally prefer the app to
do everything at the Win level, because you must have got the
hardware working at the Win level with most working systems.
You cant get that as cheaply as with Ghost 2003 tho.

 > Whatever you already have, or is there some
 > indispensible advantage of one or the other?

Yeah, if you're using the modern approach of an external
removable drive with a firewire or USB2 interface as the
location of the image files, that affects your choice. Same
with the lan. I backup the less intensively used systems
like the PC in the kitchen over the lan and the ease of
setting that up varys quite a bit. You need to be quite
a bit more than the average user to use Ghost 2003
in that situation if the NIC isnt natively supported and
you dont want to bother with a boot CD or floppy.

 > (Speaking of which, did you know that
 > cemetries are full of indispensible people? Wink

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:39 pm
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chrisv <chrisv DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:<pi00805j14tq077a4m3n9eq5uaegvjfl55 DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
 > "Ron Reaugh" <ron-reaugh DeleteThis @worldnet.att.net> wrote:
 >
  > >"RB" <rbaulbin DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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   > >> Hello -
   > >>
   > >> Wondered if anyone could tell me if there's some means of making a
   > >> complete nightly image of a drive, so that in the event of a crash on
   > >> the main drive, the backup is ready to go, with absolutely no need for
   > >> application installation, drivers, etc?
  > >
  > >There's Ghost, DriveImage and Acronis TrueImage.
  > >Alternatively, if XP, W2K then one can mirror the HD and then keep the
  > >mirror offline as a backup.
 >
 > Hey Ron, did you ever change your opinion on the quality of the last
 > few series of IBM hardrives? You used to be an adamant IBM supporter,
 > as I recall...

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:46 am
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"RB" wrote:
 > Thank you all for your help!


Help? Help!? Check out the thread
"Cloning a Drive running Windows XP Pro".

*TimDaniels*<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:30 am
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Ghost from Pro 2003 fails with SATA (dell desktop), just hangs before
starting. Pro 2004 has a slightly modified version of Ghost that works
perfectly. Plus, 2004 has newer dates for USB drivers, though haven't seen
any improvements w/USB.

Norm Perron

 > Ghost as part of SystemWorks Pro 2003 is amazingly cheap off ebay.
 > The user interface isnt as good as with Drive Image, but there is one
 > hell of a difference in price thats hard to relate to the undoubtedly
 > rather minor advantage Drive Image has in the user interface.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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