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Josh

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:06 pm
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Got several old door-stops laying around, vintage PII-266, PII-300,
and a PII-350.

a couple of months ago, I couldn't resist buying 3 Seagate 160gb HD's
on sale for $40 apiece. I had figured I would be selling them to
friends/family/somebody, but everybody I know is just buying new
Dell's (don't get me started on Dell's). So, rather than have them
collect dust forever, I'm thinking of turning one or two of those old
PII'2 into a file server, using a Promise Ultra133 card.

Anyone have an opinion as to: How much would these old CPU's
bottleneck file transfer? They will be running win2000. Thought of
Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
higher hardware requirements?

I'd rather save these HD's as "new, still in shrink wrap" rather than
try them out and then see the PII's aren't going to be able to handle
it.

As a side note, gb NIC's are cheap now, and gb (1000mbps) switches
aren't too bad, thought upgrading my home network.

Thoughts?

Thanks, Josh

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:10 pm
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:54:33 +0800, spodosaurus
<spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote:

>Josh wrote:
>> Got several old door-stops laying around, vintage PII-266, PII-300,
>> and a PII-350.
>>
>> a couple of months ago, I couldn't resist buying 3 Seagate 160gb HD's
>> on sale for $40 apiece. I had figured I would be selling them to
>> friends/family/somebody, but everybody I know is just buying new
>> Dell's (don't get me started on Dell's). So, rather than have them
>> collect dust forever, I'm thinking of turning one or two of those old
>> PII'2 into a file server, using a Promise Ultra133 card.
>>
>> Anyone have an opinion as to: How much would these old CPU's
>> bottleneck file transfer? They will be running win2000. Thought of
>> Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
>> higher hardware requirements?
>>
>> I'd rather save these HD's as "new, still in shrink wrap" rather than
>> try them out and then see the PII's aren't going to be able to handle
>> it.
>>
>> As a side note, gb NIC's are cheap now, and gb (1000mbps) switches
>> aren't too bad, thought upgrading my home network.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks, Josh
>
>The motherboards in PCs of that age may not be able to handle drives
>that size without a BIOS update, if one is even available.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ari

The BIOS on the Promise card handles that, though.

(I mis-typed, they are 120gb, not 160gb. )

Thanks

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:21 am
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:08:57 +0800, Man-wai Chang
<toylet.toylet.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>Josh wrote:
>> Got several old door-stops laying around, vintage PII-266, PII-300,
>> and a PII-350.
>>
>> a couple of months ago, I couldn't resist buying 3 Seagate 160gb HD's
>> on sale for $40 apiece. I had figured I would be selling them to
>> friends/family/somebody, but everybody I know is just buying new
>> Dell's (don't get me started on Dell's). So, rather than have them
>> collect dust forever, I'm thinking of turning one or two of those old
>> PII'2 into a file server, using a Promise Ultra133 card.
>>
>> Anyone have an opinion as to: How much would these old CPU's
>> bottleneck file transfer? They will be running win2000. Thought of
>> Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
>> higher hardware requirements?
>>
>> I'd rather save these HD's as "new, still in shrink wrap" rather than
>> try them out and then see the PII's aren't going to be able to handle
>> it.
>>
>> As a side note, gb NIC's are cheap now, and gb (1000mbps) switches
>> aren't too bad, thought upgrading my home network.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
>Linux!

Yeah, guess I'll have to look into hardware requirements. Need to
take another look at Linux anyway, been a while since I last looked at
it (Mandrake)

Josh
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Chris Hill

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:36 pm
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:06:17 -0600, Josh <traygo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Got several old door-stops laying around, vintage PII-266, PII-300,
>and a PII-350.
>
>a couple of months ago, I couldn't resist buying 3 Seagate 160gb HD's
>on sale for $40 apiece. I had figured I would be selling them to
>friends/family/somebody, but everybody I know is just buying new
>Dell's (don't get me started on Dell's). So, rather than have them
>collect dust forever, I'm thinking of turning one or two of those old
>PII'2 into a file server, using a Promise Ultra133 card.
>
>Anyone have an opinion as to: How much would these old CPU's
>bottleneck file transfer? They will be running win2000. Thought of
>Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
>higher hardware requirements?
>
>I'd rather save these HD's as "new, still in shrink wrap" rather than
>try them out and then see the PII's aren't going to be able to handle
>it.
>
>As a side note, gb NIC's are cheap now, and gb (1000mbps) switches
>aren't too bad, thought upgrading my home network.


I doubt if the older machines could handle gb well. You might try
standard 10/100 with something such as freenas. I'm running freenas
on a p2/266 with 192mb ram and it is fine for pushing files through
the network.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:52 pm
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Josh <traygo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Got several old door-stops laying around, vintage PII-266, PII-300,
> and a PII-350.
>
> a couple of months ago, I couldn't resist buying 3 Seagate 160gb HD's
> on sale for $40 apiece. I had figured I would be selling them to
> friends/family/somebody, but everybody I know is just buying new
> Dell's (don't get me started on Dell's). So, rather than have them
> collect dust forever, I'm thinking of turning one or two of those old
> PII'2 into a file server, using a Promise Ultra133 card.
>
> Anyone have an opinion as to: How much would these old CPU's
> bottleneck file transfer? They will be running win2000. Thought of
> Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
> higher hardware requirements?
>
> I'd rather save these HD's as "new, still in shrink wrap" rather than
> try them out and then see the PII's aren't going to be able to handle
> it.

> As a side note, gb NIC's are cheap now, and gb (1000mbps)
> switches aren't too bad, thought upgrading my home network.

> Thoughts?

More modern systems are generally a lot less hassle memory wise.

Even P3 socket 7 systems can be a pain in the arse unless you use simms.
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David Maynard

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:52 pm
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Rod Speed wrote:
> Josh <traygo.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Got several old door-stops laying around, vintage PII-266, PII-300,
>>and a PII-350.
>>
>>a couple of months ago, I couldn't resist buying 3 Seagate 160gb HD's
>>on sale for $40 apiece. I had figured I would be selling them to
>>friends/family/somebody, but everybody I know is just buying new
>>Dell's (don't get me started on Dell's). So, rather than have them
>>collect dust forever, I'm thinking of turning one or two of those old
>>PII'2 into a file server, using a Promise Ultra133 card.
>>
>>Anyone have an opinion as to: How much would these old CPU's
>>bottleneck file transfer? They will be running win2000. Thought of
>>Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
>>higher hardware requirements?
>>
>>I'd rather save these HD's as "new, still in shrink wrap" rather than
>>try them out and then see the PII's aren't going to be able to handle
>>it.
>
>
>>As a side note, gb NIC's are cheap now, and gb (1000mbps)
>>switches aren't too bad, thought upgrading my home network.
>
>
>>Thoughts?
>
>
> More modern systems are generally a lot less hassle memory wise.
>
> Even P3 socket 7 systems can be a pain in the arse unless you use simms.
>
>

P3s are socket 370 (or Slot-1) and, except for perhaps some funky PCChips
motherboards that might have been made with SIMMs, are either SDRAM or the
aborted Intel Rambus.

The last Intel socket 7 CPU was the Pentium 233MMX.
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Matt

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:54 pm
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Josh wrote:

> Thought of
> Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
> higher hardware requirements?

How much RAM do you have?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:54 pm
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:54:51 GMT, Matt <themattfella RemoveThis @xxyyyzzzz.com>
wrote:

>Josh wrote:
>
>> Thought of
>> Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
>> higher hardware requirements?
>
>How much RAM do you have?


They all have at least 128mb, and IIRC, at least one has 256, maybe 2
of them. I figured on canabilizing them, and making sure the one
I'll use has at least 256mb, more probably.

Josh
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:31 pm
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:54:51 GMT, Matt <themattfella.DeleteThis@xxyyyzzzz.com>
wrote:

>Josh wrote:
>
>> Thought of
>> Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway) have
>> higher hardware requirements?
>
>How much RAM do you have?

I installed Redhat Linux on an old PC with 126 meg of RAM. I selected
TEXT-ONLY. I installed Squid and a firewall on it. It runs very fast
as a proxy-server and it runs for months without much attention and no
rebooting. You will need more CPU power and RAM to run the GUI.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:07 pm
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David Maynard <nospam.DeleteThis@private.net> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Josh <traygo.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Got several old door-stops laying around, vintage PII-266, PII-300,
>>> and a PII-350.
>>>
>>> a couple of months ago, I couldn't resist buying 3 Seagate 160gb
>>> HD's on sale for $40 apiece. I had figured I would be selling them
>>> to friends/family/somebody, but everybody I know is just buying new
>>> Dell's (don't get me started on Dell's). So, rather than have them
>>> collect dust forever, I'm thinking of turning one or two of those
>>> old PII'2 into a file server, using a Promise Ultra133 card.
>>>
>>> Anyone have an opinion as to: How much would these old CPU's
>>> bottleneck file transfer? They will be running win2000. Thought of
>>> Linux, but I believe the latest distro's (Red Hat & Suse anyway)
>>> have higher hardware requirements?
>>>
>>> I'd rather save these HD's as "new, still in shrink wrap" rather
>>> than try them out and then see the PII's aren't going to be able to
>>> handle it.
>>
>>
>>> As a side note, gb NIC's are cheap now, and gb (1000mbps)
>>> switches aren't too bad, thought upgrading my home network.
>>
>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> More modern systems are generally a lot less hassle memory wise.
>>
>> Even P3 socket 7 systems can be a pain in the arse unless you use
>> simms.

> P3s are socket 370 (or Slot-1) and, except for perhaps some funky
> PCChips motherboards that might have been made with SIMMs, are either SDRAM or the
> aborted Intel Rambus.

> The last Intel socket 7 CPU was the Pentium 233MMX.

Yeah, just a typo.
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