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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:56 pm
Post subject: data recovery
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Hi there,
I formatted my C drive and reinstalled XP Professional and now my
computer can see my E drive (hard disk) but cannot read it, therefore
I cannot access my data. I have tried the disc in another computer and
it still doesn't work. I have tried chkdsk, data recovery software and
other things but nothing works.
Any ideas or suggestions - I am positively desperate!!
Thanks
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:01 am
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Previously Charlotte <charlotteg_2000.TakeThisOut@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
> I formatted my C drive and reinstalled XP Professional and now my
> computer can see my E drive (hard disk) but cannot read it, therefore
> I cannot access my data. I have tried the disc in another computer and
> it still doesn't work. I have tried chkdsk, data recovery software and
> other things but nothing works.
> Any ideas or suggestions - I am positively desperate!!
One thing you could try is booting Knoppix (->google) and
see whether is sees your data-drive. Knoppix is a single CD Linux.
Since Linux does not care about the global picture, if your data-
partition is still readable in principle, Knoppix will be able to
read it. Then you can use Knoppix to make a backup of your files
or copy them to some FAT partition. (Writing NTFS with Linux is
still problematic, AFAIK. Reading is o.k..)
If you don't have enough Linux skills, your best bet is to find
some friendly local Linux-geek. However to just check whether
the data is there, the GUI of Knoppix should be intuitive enough.
Might require reading some documentation (all in the online-help)
though.
Some other advice (sorry, don't mean to make it more painful, but
it has to be said): Next time make a backup of your data before a
major system change such as a re-installation. Even very experienced
people do this, since many things can go wrong. Also do regular backups
of your important data as HDDs have ben knowen to fail, sometimes
without warning. The last time I made a mistake, I killed two drives.
Luckily I had that backup.
Arno
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:01 am
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Arnie the Troll is clueless as always. No, a typical Windows user cannot just
boot Linux and fix file system problems.
They can run any number of DOS/Win FAT recovery programs and easily get their
data back without sucking up to a Linux freak (not geek).
"Arno Wagner" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
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> One thing you could try is booting Knoppix (->google) and
> see whether is sees your data-drive. Knoppix is a single CD Linux.
> Since Linux does not care about the global picture, if your data-
> partition is still readable in principle, Knoppix will be able to
> read it. Then you can use Knoppix to make a backup of your files
> or copy them to some FAT partition. (Writing NTFS with Linux is
> still problematic, AFAIK. Reading is o.k..)
>
> If you don't have enough Linux skills, your best bet is to find
> some friendly local Linux-geek. However to just check whether
> the data is there, the GUI of Knoppix should be intuitive enough.
> Might require reading some documentation (all in the online-help)
> though.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:31 am
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In article <c23eo8016oh.DeleteThis@enews1.newsguy.com>,
Eric Gisin <ericgisin.DeleteThis@graffiti.net> wrote:
>Arnie the Troll is clueless as always. No, a typical Windows user cannot just
>boot Linux and fix file system problems.
He didn't say knoppix could "fix" file systems. He said Knoppix can
read the ntfs/FAT32 from a C drive. It can do everything he says it
can do.
You can d/l a bootable knoppix iso from <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.linuxiso.org." target="_blank">www.linuxiso.org.</a>
You do need a good disk to write to. If you're on an
ethenet you can copy your files via ftp, but a beginner
is going to need help to do the fancier stuff.
You can burn data to CDs under knoppix.
>
>They can run any number of DOS/Win FAT recovery programs and easily get their
>data back without sucking up to a Linux freak (not geek).
>
>"Arno Wagner" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:c23app$1oveak$1@ID-2964.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>
>> One thing you could try is booting Knoppix (->google) and
>> see whether is sees your data-drive. Knoppix is a single CD Linux.
>> Since Linux does not care about the global picture, if your data-
>> partition is still readable in principle, Knoppix will be able to
>> read it. Then you can use Knoppix to make a backup of your files
>> or copy them to some FAT partition. (Writing NTFS with Linux is
>> still problematic, AFAIK. Reading is o.k..)
>>
>> If you don't have enough Linux skills, your best bet is to find
>> some friendly local Linux-geek. However to just check whether
>> the data is there, the GUI of Knoppix should be intuitive enough.
>> Might require reading some documentation (all in the online-help)
>> though.
>>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:28 pm
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"Eric Gisin" <ericgisin.DeleteThis@graffiti.net> wrote in message
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> Arnie the Troll is clueless as always. No, a typical Windows user cannot
just
> boot Linux and fix file system problems.
>
> They can run any number of DOS/Win FAT recovery programs and easily get
their
> data back without sucking up to a Linux freak (not geek).
>
Well, don't know about all that and not being a Linux freak myself: Knoppix
is extremely easy to use and will automatically mount partitions
(read-only). Indeed sometimes when Windows refuses to read a drive, Linux
will, allowing you to copy the data to a safe drive. For those occasions
Knoppix will do just fine. Anyone able to use a mouse should be able to do
it. The (safe) destination drive can be set to read/write mode by right
clicking and using the context menu.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:28 pm
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Ok, that certainly is an improvement over Linux of a few years ago.
"Joep" <j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l> wrote in message
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> Well, don't know about all that and not being a Linux freak myself: Knoppix
> is extremely easy to use and will automatically mount partitions
> (read-only). Indeed sometimes when Windows refuses to read a drive, Linux
> will, allowing you to copy the data to a safe drive. For those occasions
> Knoppix will do just fine. Anyone able to use a mouse should be able to do
> it. The (safe) destination drive can be set to read/write mode by right
> clicking and using the context menu.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:40 pm
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Previously Joep <j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l> wrote:
> "Eric Gisin" <ericgisin.DeleteThis@graffiti.net> wrote in message
> news:c23eo8016oh@enews1.newsguy.com...
>> Arnie the Troll is clueless as always. No, a typical Windows user
>> cannot just boot Linux and fix file system problems.
>>
>> They can run any number of DOS/Win FAT recovery programs and easily get
>> their data back without sucking up to a Linux freak (not geek).
> Well, don't know about all that and not being a Linux freak myself:
> Knoppix is extremely easy to use and will automatically mount
> partitions (read-only).
Which is why I advise it for simple data recovery: It is difficult to
do more damage with it. Running "any number of DOS/Win FAT recovery
programs" is a very bad idea indeed and might "easily" make the situation
much worse. I advise strongly against trying to repair a damaged
filesystem, unless you know what you are doing. Trying to get the data
_without_ modifying the filesystem or working on a _copy_ of the damaged
filesystem is the professional approach since you get more than one try
to get it right. Modifying the original filesystem is strictly amateur
level and offers no protection from mistakes.
> Indeed sometimes when Windows refuses to read a drive, Linux
> will, allowing you to copy the data to a safe drive. For those occasions
> Knoppix will do just fine. Anyone able to use a mouse should be able to do
> it. The (safe) destination drive can be set to read/write mode by right
> clicking and using the context menu.
Indeed. Not that hard.
Arno
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:24 pm
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"Eric Gisin" <ericgisin RemoveThis @graffiti.net> wrote in message
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> Ok, that certainly is an improvement over Linux of a few years ago.
>
> "Joep" <j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l> wrote in message
> news:5d62e$4045c311$3eddca68$32574@nf2.news-service.com...
> >
> > Well, don't know about all that and not being a Linux freak myself:
Knoppix
> > is extremely easy to use and will automatically mount partitions
> > (read-only). Indeed sometimes when Windows refuses to read a drive,
Linux
> > will, allowing you to copy the data to a safe drive. For those occasions
> > Knoppix will do just fine. Anyone able to use a mouse should be able to
do
> > it. The (safe) destination drive can be set to read/write mode by right
> > clicking and using the context menu.
> >
Yep, well don't get me wrong, this particular operation is easier than it
was. For the major part Linux still remains archaic (IMO) ...
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:14 pm
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"Arno Wagner" <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in message news:c24qpp$1p7bek$1@ID-2964.news.uni-berlin.de
> Previously Joep <j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l> wrote:
> > "Eric Gisin" ericgisin.RemoveThis@graffiti.net> wrote in message news:c23eo8016oh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > Arnie the Troll is clueless as always. No, a typical Windows user
> > > cannot just boot Linux and fix file system problems.
> > >
> > > They can run any number of DOS/Win FAT recovery programs and easily get
> > > their data back without sucking up to a Linux freak (not geek).
>
> > Well, don't know about all that and not being a Linux freak myself:
> > Knoppix is extremely easy to use and will automatically mount
> > partitions (read-only).
>
> Which is why I advise it for simple data recovery: It is difficult to
> do more damage with it. Running "any number of DOS/Win FAT recovery
> programs" is a very bad idea indeed and might "easily" make the situation
> much worse. I advise strongly against trying to repair a damaged filesystem,
> unless you know what you are doing. Trying to get the data _without_
> modifying the filesystem or working on a _copy_ of the damaged filesystem
> is the professional approach since you get more than one try to get it right.
> Modifying the original filesystem is strictly amateur
> level and offers no protection from mistakes.
Thanks for branding the data recovery utilites as strictly 'amateur stuff'.
>
> > Indeed sometimes when Windows refuses to read a drive, Linux
> > will, allowing you to copy the data to a safe drive. For those occasions
> > Knoppix will do just fine. Anyone able to use a mouse should be able to do
> > it. The (safe) destination drive can be set to read/write mode by right
> > clicking and using the context menu.
>
> Indeed. Not that hard.
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:09 pm
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It's far easier for a Windows user to use a data extraction tool (Not a
FAT/NTFS repair tool) such as R-Studio. Information can be found at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://wwwhowtorecoverdata.com" target="_blank">http://wwwhowtorecoverdata.com</a> in the Basic>Extraction section.
"Charlotte" <charlotteg_2000 RemoveThis @btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi there,
>
> I formatted my C drive and reinstalled XP Professional and now my
> computer can see my E drive (hard disk) but cannot read it, therefore
> I cannot access my data. I have tried the disc in another computer and
> it still doesn't work. I have tried chkdsk, data recovery software and
> other things but nothing works.
>
> Any ideas or suggestions - I am positively desperate!!
>
> Thanks
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:55 pm
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Actually I find the Knopix CD *EASIER* to use than R-Studio (and I am a
Windows user!), and apart from that it's free. So if indeed the lost data
can be examined and copied using the read-only Knopix CD than that's a good
thing, isn't it?
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