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Sonars_UK

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Since: Jan 30, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:28 pm
Post subject: How many device drivers
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Hi

My system will occasionally reboot itself and come up with an error message
that says 'Your system has recovered from a serious error - do you want to
send error report to Microsoft?'.

I click OK and then get directed to the Microsoft website which says that it
can't offer me any specific advice but it appears that it was a device
driver that caused the problem.

I want to compile a list of all of the devices on my computer and then
search for updated drivers, but I am unsure what is classed as a device or
device driver. I understand that they are things like modems, printers,
etc... but how far does it go? Are chips on my MOBO classed as devices as
well?

As you can probably tell - I have absolutely no idea what I am on about so
any advice would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Sonars UK

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Alien Zord

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:35 pm
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"Sonars_UK" <sonars_uk DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i95hc.35$Up.27@newsfe1-win...
 > My system will occasionally reboot itself and come up with an error
message
 > that says 'Your system has recovered from a serious error - do you want to
 > send error report to Microsoft?'.
 >
 > I click OK and then get directed to the Microsoft website which says that
it
 > can't offer me any specific advice but it appears that it was a device
 > driver that caused the problem.
 >
 > I want to compile a list of all of the devices on my computer and then
 > search for updated drivers, but I am unsure what is classed as a device or
 > device driver. I understand that they are things like modems, printers,
 > etc... but how far does it go? Are chips on my MOBO classed as devices as
 > well?
 >
 > As you can probably tell - I have absolutely no idea what I am on about so
 > any advice would be much appreciated.
 >
 >
Right-click My Computer, click Manage, then Device Manager. You will see a
list of all the devices in your PC.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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kony

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Since: Jan 03, 2004
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:28 pm
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:28:05 +0100, "Sonars_UK" <sonars_uk.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:

 >Hi
 >
 >My system will occasionally reboot itself and come up with an error message
 >that says 'Your system has recovered from a serious error - do you want to
 >send error report to Microsoft?'.

Pity the prompt doesn't say "Would you like to turn off this annoying
reboot feature?".

How often does it do this? Is there any pattern to it?


 >I click OK and then get directed to the Microsoft website which says that it
 >can't offer me any specific advice but it appears that it was a device
 >driver that caused the problem.

Err, maybe but take that with a grain of salt. Consider that you're not
likely to receive an error that states anything like:

- Windows Flaw #234 Got You Again

- Your Air Conditioner Needs Be On Different Circuit

- PCChips Is Evil

All kidding aside, it could be a driver but it might be useful to first
disable reboot on error (Google search it if you don't know how to change
that setting).
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Windows+XP+disable+reboot+on+error" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?q=Windows+XP+disable+reboot+on+error</a>


 >I want to compile a list of all of the devices on my computer and then
 >search for updated drivers, but I am unsure what is classed as a device or
 >device driver. I understand that they are things like modems, printers,
 >etc... but how far does it go? Are chips on my MOBO classed as devices as
 >well?

Yes the motherboard driver(s) should be considered too.

 >
 >As you can probably tell - I have absolutely no idea what I am on about so
 >any advice would be much appreciated.

Changing drivers could also introduce NEW problems. Usually it won't, but
it may be good to pin down which driver (or other, non-driver) was causing
the problem rather than just replacing all drivers. Then again, if you
were using drivers included with WinXP and started using the original
hardware manufacturer's drivers you might suddenly gain new features
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Cerridwen

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Since: May 11, 2004
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:27 pm
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kony wrote:
 > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:28:05 +0100, "Sonars_UK"
 > <sonars_uk.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  >> Hi
  >>
  >> My system will occasionally reboot itself and come up with an error
  >> message that says 'Your system has recovered from a serious error -
  >> do you want to send error report to Microsoft?'.
 >
 > Pity the prompt doesn't say "Would you like to turn off this annoying
 > reboot feature?".
 >
 > How often does it do this? Is there any pattern to it?
 >
 >
  >> I click OK and then get directed to the Microsoft website which says
  >> that it can't offer me any specific advice but it appears that it
  >> was a device driver that caused the problem.
 >
 > Err, maybe but take that with a grain of salt. Consider that you're
 > not likely to receive an error that states anything like:
 >
 > - Windows Flaw #234 Got You Again
 >
 > - Your Air Conditioner Needs Be On Different Circuit
 >
 > - PCChips Is Evil
 >
 > All kidding aside, it could be a driver but it might be useful to
 > first disable reboot on error (Google search it if you don't know how
 > to change that setting).
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Windows+XP+disable+reboot+on+error</font" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?q=Windows+XP+disable+reboot+on+error</font</a>>
 >
 >
  >> I want to compile a list of all of the devices on my computer and
  >> then search for updated drivers, but I am unsure what is classed as
  >> a device or device driver. I understand that they are things like
  >> modems, printers, etc... but how far does it go? Are chips on my
  >> MOBO classed as devices as well?
 >
 > Yes the motherboard driver(s) should be considered too.
 >
  >>
  >> As you can probably tell - I have absolutely no idea what I am on
  >> about so any advice would be much appreciated.
 >
 > Changing drivers could also introduce NEW problems. Usually it
 > won't, but it may be good to pin down which driver (or other,
 > non-driver) was causing the problem rather than just replacing all
 > drivers. Then again, if you were using drivers included with WinXP
 > and started using the original hardware manufacturer's drivers you
 > might suddenly gain new features that're useful, especially with
 > video or sound cards.

PC Format (UK mag) has a feature on their Helpdesk page called Fatal
Exception Error, basically what Windows /should/ be telling you but isn't.

Past gems have included: -

Unexpected error: - Frankly it was just a matter of time before all those
other errors happened but this one sure has caught us out. Followed by two
buttons marked 'life, eh?' and 'Tch'.

The System has recovered from a Serious Error. Let's just gloss over the
fact that the Serious Error was the System's fault in the first place and
concentrate on the fact that the system has recovered. Followed by a button
marked 'PHEW!'

There is a way to turn the rebooting off. Start > Right click My computer >
Properties > Advanced tab > Settings under start-up and recovery > uncheck
'reboot on system failure'.

The next time the system fails you will see a lovely blue screen. Please
post the stop error here. The minidump is totally irrelevant. By posting
the error, we can narrow down the cause of the problem. My betting is it
will state something like 'IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL' followed by a hexadecimal
STOP code.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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beav AT wn DoT com

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Since: Apr 02, 2004
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:41 pm
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Sonars_UK wrote:

 > Hi
 >
 > My system will occasionally reboot itself and come up with an error message
 > that says 'Your system has recovered from a serious error - do you want to
 > send error report to Microsoft?'.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. What a recovery method. It's like saying:
"There's too much crime in the US. Let's nuke it."

Use device manager to find out what you have. You can find it in the
System control panel applet. If you need more detailed info, get
yourself a program (free) called Aida32. That should tell you all you
need to know.

Start at the site for your mobo manufacturer. They are the most likely
to cause death...
--
-Luke-
If cars had advanced at the same rate as Micr0$oft technology, they'd be
flying by now.
But who wants a car that crashes 8 times a day?
Registered Linux User #345134<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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half_pint

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Since: Apr 10, 2004
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:53 pm
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"Sonars_UK" <sonars_uk.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i95hc.35$Up.27@newsfe1-win...
 > Hi
 >
 > My system will occasionally reboot itself and come up with an error
message
 > that says 'Your system has recovered from a serious error - do you want to
 > send error report to Microsoft?'.
 >
 > I click OK and then get directed to the Microsoft website which says that
it
 > can't offer me any specific advice but it appears that it was a device
 > driver that caused the problem.
 >
 > I want to compile a list of all of the devices on my computer and then
 > search for updated drivers, but I am unsure what is classed as a device or
 > device driver. I understand that they are things like modems, printers,
 > etc... but how far does it go? Are chips on my MOBO classed as devices as
 > well?
 >
 > As you can probably tell - I have absolutely no idea what I am on about so
 > any advice would be much appreciated.
 >
 > Regards,
 >
 > Sonars UK

Shows what a waste of time sending those reports is.
I don't see why your favourites folder should be in the report either.
More criminal behaviior by Microsoft no doubt.
 >
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:09 am
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half_pint wrote:
 > "Sonars_UK" <sonars_uk DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:i95hc.35$Up.27@newsfe1-win...
  >> Hi
  >>
  >> My system will occasionally reboot itself and come up with an error
  >> message that says 'Your system has recovered from a serious error -
  >> do you want to send error report to Microsoft?'.
  >>
  >> I click OK and then get directed to the Microsoft website which says
  >> that it can't offer me any specific advice but it appears that it
  >> was a device driver that caused the problem.
  >>
  >> I want to compile a list of all of the devices on my computer and
  >> then search for updated drivers, but I am unsure what is classed as
  >> a device or device driver. I understand that they are things like
  >> modems, printers, etc... but how far does it go? Are chips on my
  >> MOBO classed as devices as well?
  >>
  >> As you can probably tell - I have absolutely no idea what I am on
  >> about so any advice would be much appreciated.
  >>
  >> Regards,
  >>
  >> Sonars UK
 >
 > Shows what a waste of time sending those reports is.
 > I don't see why your favourites folder should be in the report either.
 > More criminal behaviior by Microsoft no doubt.

Erm and where did he say that it was?! Learn to read properly!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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ProfGene

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:48 pm
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The installation of motherboard drivers usually takes place when you setup
the motherboard and you should not have to do anything about those drivers
in most cases. The thing to do would be to pinpoint the device driver if any
that is causing you any problems. If you are doing the same action when the
error appears this might help you know what is causing the problem. Somtimes
wiindows will come up with such a message when there is no poblem that
requires immediate action but in your case since it is rebooting you might
want to deal with it.
"Sonars_UK" <sonars_uk.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i95hc.35$Up.27@newsfe1-win...
 > Hi
 >
 > My system will occasionally reboot itself and come up with an error
message
 > that says 'Your system has recovered from a serious error - do you want to
 > send error report to Microsoft?'.
 >
 > I click OK and then get directed to the Microsoft website which says that
it
 > can't offer me any specific advice but it appears that it was a device
 > driver that caused the problem.
 >
 > I want to compile a list of all of the devices on my computer and then
 > search for updated drivers, but I am unsure what is classed as a device or
 > device driver. I understand that they are things like modems, printers,
 > etc... but how far does it go? Are chips on my MOBO classed as devices as
 > well?
 >
 > As you can probably tell - I have absolutely no idea what I am on about so
 > any advice would be much appreciated.
 >
 > Regards,
 >
 > Sonars UK
 >
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