On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:16:24 -0600, "Obie San San"
<oooooooo.TakeThisOut@000000.com> wrote:
>"Bill" <BillS.TakeThisOut@revenia.com> wrote in message > On Mon, >
>> Thanks for the clarification.
>
>He didn't really clarify anything. I am surpised you don't have a ton of
>more questions based on Kony's answer.
Well you seem to be overlooking the things I"d mentioned,
and that what you describe below will not work without more
parts and functionality added. I'll elaborate below.
>
>Anyway, I did this once with two pc's to see if it would work. One of them
>never went higher than 14k when both were sharing the dial up.
What do you mean?
"Sharing" by ICS would not be any lower dialup speed, the
host system still has 100% speed and only the bandwidth is
shared, only an issue on concurrent downloading.
If you mean installing a second phone line and a digital
splitter for it (to use same pair of twisted copper) then
indeed, that may easily force the connection speed to drop
down to 28K.
>Do you have
>any idea how slow 14k is? I tell you what. Go to www.abc.com and watch how
>slow the page lows on 50k. Now assume that both pc and laptop can connect at
>25k (almost impossible by the way).
I have no idea what you think you mean, but in any (every)
scenario, 28K is in fact possible and expected.
>I bet neither one of you are going to
>want to be on the internet at the same time. I bet you will even have to go
>in and change some settings in your internet browser to turn of time-outs
>and lower them for nondisplaying pages.
With a very slow connection, yes that is possible... but
would one really want to surf 'site that load so slowly that
they need time-outs changed? Doubtful if it can be avoided,
better to just disable features that hog bandwidth like
animated images, shockwave flash, video and sound.
>
>But now to get back to your question, because I know you are serious about
>trying this at least one. Get a linksys router for the pc, and follow the
>setup instructions perfectly that come with it.
Having it alone, is only of use to connect a wifi laptop.
Dialup analog (not ADSL) will require a modem still, and
they use serial connections almost always so the router must
support this. If the router doesn't, it is not routing, can
only function as an access point- which is fine, a valid use
to gain wifi ability on the lan, but it won't get him
connected to the internet by itself.
>I suggest linksys because
>their online support is better than dlink and there diagrams are easier to
>understand. They also have an online setup tool you can download and run on
>your computer that will make changes in settings for you that will probably
>be necessary to get connected.
UGH!
There's no need for software to get a router working.
The router interface is HTTP via web brower and if the
router's routing functionality is needed to point to a
gateway's parameters, it's passed via DHCP from the host
wan.
>
> Once you can connect the to the internet with the pc actually connected to
>the router,
How does he do that? You're overlooking the only
significant detail, that to connect, it's not going through
that router you suggested because it doesn't support analog
modems.
>...then and only then should you set up the wireless adapter in the
>notebook like you said you were. There is no need fooling with the wireless
>card and notebook if you can't get the router working with internet on your
>pc.
Do not try to "get the router working" because it is
physically impossible to route incoming traffic when there
is no incoming traffic, becaue there is no way to connect
the modem to it.
On the other hand, IF he got a 3rd party software and set up
his machine to be a DHCP server, he could (theoretically)
hook his system up to the WAN port on a router instead, but
this is a very unusual setup and segregates his system...
practically nobody sets it up that way as it is of limited
benefit even if possible.
>
>Connect to the internet on the pc, and then set up the network on the
>notebook by using Windows network setup. Windows makes all this easy, but
>you are still going to have a learning curve. I never had any success with
>the wireless route. What I had to do was to use the rj45 ports on the router
>and notebook to run a network cable from the router to the laptop to get the
>internet to share.
???
There's nothing fundamentally hard about getting wireless to
work, you might check a few networking tutorials found via
Google search.
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