What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards ..

Hairy Jay wrote:
 > "The Mighty MF" <sether01.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:104arrk2h444e39@corp.supernews.com...
  >> Shown as "ATI Technologies Inc. display software update released on
  >> December 12 2003".
  >> What is this? Is it the catalyst 4.2? I'm pretty weary about
  >> downloading it since I'm not exactly sure what it does (and it's MS,
  >> you know). Anyone here try it? Did it improve or decrease
  >> performance at all? I tried dejanews searching, but came up blank
  >> =(. Any info is appreciated.
  >>
  >> Khabs,
  >> Mark
 >
 > Mark:
 >
 > Ignore all driver updates from the Windows Update site. Download
 > only from manufacturer's (ATI) site or other sites recommended here
 > (Omega).
 >
 > J

Usually my plan =). The reason I was curious was I just built this system
about a week ago. All was well, and I downloaded that particular driver
without really paying attention. Everything was swell, but since I am still
tweaking, and probably will reformat once I get everything "set" (which
driver revisions to install etc), I decided to change my driver to the 4.1
version. (I completely cleaned out all previous drivers-- 3.7 along with the
patch from MS). Everything is running well, *except* one thing. The 1080i
DVD promos from microsoft's website runs really choppy, dropping hundreds of
frames. Before, when I had that update installed, I had no problems. Now,
I'm trying to figure out if something else is amiss, or perhaps that update
had a fix in it. That's why I was asking. BTW, my sys specs:
WinXP Home
AMD 64 3200+
Asus K8V Deluxe
1gig Kingston Hyper
Sapphire 9800 PRO
SB Audigy
70g Raptor (C:\ and D:\)
80g Misc

I have shut down all unneeded services, and have no background apps running,
so the poor performance of those clips is really puzzling. Anyway, thanks
for the advice, and if anyone knows exactly what that file Microsoft
offering is, I'd appreciate it. Or, if anyone has any tips on what might be
causing that particular performance loss, I would be indebted.

Khabs,
Mark<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

"The Mighty MF" <sether01 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:104atmgd318n3d7@corp.supernews.com...
 > I have shut down all unneeded services, and have no background apps
running,
 > so the poor performance of those clips is really puzzling. Anyway, thanks
 > for the advice, and if anyone knows exactly what that file Microsoft
 > offering is, I'd appreciate it. Or, if anyone has any tips on what might
be
 > causing that particular performance loss, I would be indebted.
 >
 > Khabs,
 > Mark
 >
 >
Maybe you need to resinstall Directx9.0b? BTW, those Microsoft supplied
drivers are probably the last drivers they have certified from ATI, but they
are certainly not the most recent available. MS likes to try and get us all
to use certified drivers, less hassles that way maybe.I used them for a
while though and had no isssues with them that I can remember.I'm using the
latest Omega drivers now though.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

Good point, maybe that's what got borked along the way. I'll try that and
report what happens tomorrow.

Khabs,
Mark

Debug wrote:
 > Maybe you need to resinstall Directx9.0b? BTW, those Microsoft
 > supplied drivers are probably the last drivers they have certified
 > from ATI, but they are certainly not the most recent available. MS
 > likes to try and get us all to use certified drivers, less hassles
 > that way maybe.I used them for a while though and had no isssues with
 > them that I can remember.I'm using the latest Omega drivers now
 > though.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ati.com" target="_blank">www.ati.com</a> is the best place to get ATI drivers
the one at MS is an old driver.

"The Mighty MF" <sether01.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:104arrk2h444e39@corp.supernews.com...
 > Shown as "ATI Technologies Inc. display software update released on
December
 > 12 2003".
 > What is this? Is it the catalyst 4.2? I'm pretty weary about downloading
it
 > since I'm not exactly sure what it does (and it's MS, you know). Anyone
 > here try it? Did it improve or decrease performance at all? I tried
 > dejanews searching, but came up blank =(. Any info is appreciated.
 >
 > Khabs,
 > Mark
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

The Mighty MF wrote:


 > Sapphire 9800 PRO
 > SB Audigy
Or, if anyone has any tips on what might be
 > causing that particular performance loss, I would be indebted.
 >
Is your Audigy in the PCI slot next to your AGP card?

 > Khabs,
 > Mark
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

No, no, no! I know better then that, heh. =)

It's in PCI 4 I believe. Maybe 5.

Khabs,
Mark



Philip Callan wrote:
 > The Mighty MF wrote:
 >
 >
  >> Sapphire 9800 PRO
  >> SB Audigy
 > Or, if anyone has any tips on what might be
  >> causing that particular performance loss, I would be indebted.
  >>
 > Is your Audigy in the PCI slot next to your AGP card?
 >
  >> Khabs,
  >> Mark<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

The Mighty MF wrote:
 >
 > Shown as "ATI Technologies Inc. display software update released on December
 > 12 2003".
 > What is this? Is it the catalyst 4.2? I'm pretty weary about downloading it
 > since I'm not exactly sure what it does (and it's MS, you know). Anyone
 > here try it? Did it improve or decrease performance at all? I tried
 > dejanews searching, but came up blank =(. Any info is appreciated.
 >
 > Khabs,
 > Mark

Its like a cat 3.10, MS site drivers are way behind what the
manufacturers are releasing.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

the 3.7s are the most stable/compatible driver of recent.
by all means experiment with newer drivers from ATI (as the others say) but
keep the 3.7s handy as a fallback.

"The Mighty MF" <sether01.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:104atmgd318n3d7@corp.supernews.com...
 > Hairy Jay wrote:
  > > "The Mighty MF" <sether01.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:104arrk2h444e39@corp.supernews.com...
   > >> Shown as "ATI Technologies Inc. display software update released on
   > >> December 12 2003".
   > >> What is this? Is it the catalyst 4.2? I'm pretty weary about
   > >> downloading it since I'm not exactly sure what it does (and it's MS,
   > >> you know). Anyone here try it? Did it improve or decrease
   > >> performance at all? I tried dejanews searching, but came up blank
   > >> =(. Any info is appreciated.
   > >>
   > >> Khabs,
   > >> Mark
  > >
  > > Mark:
  > >
  > > Ignore all driver updates from the Windows Update site. Download
  > > only from manufacturer's (ATI) site or other sites recommended here
  > > (Omega).
  > >
  > > J
 >
 > Usually my plan =). The reason I was curious was I just built this system
 > about a week ago. All was well, and I downloaded that particular driver
 > without really paying attention. Everything was swell, but since I am
still
 > tweaking, and probably will reformat once I get everything "set" (which
 > driver revisions to install etc), I decided to change my driver to the 4.1
 > version. (I completely cleaned out all previous drivers-- 3.7 along with
the
 > patch from MS). Everything is running well, *except* one thing. The
1080i
 > DVD promos from microsoft's website runs really choppy, dropping hundreds
of
 > frames. Before, when I had that update installed, I had no problems.
Now,
 > I'm trying to figure out if something else is amiss, or perhaps that
update
 > had a fix in it. That's why I was asking. BTW, my sys specs:
 > WinXP Home
 > AMD 64 3200+
 > Asus K8V Deluxe
 > 1gig Kingston Hyper
 > Sapphire 9800 PRO
 > SB Audigy
 > 70g Raptor (C:\ and D:\)
 > 80g Misc
 >
 > I have shut down all unneeded services, and have no background apps
running,
 > so the poor performance of those clips is really puzzling. Anyway, thanks
 > for the advice, and if anyone knows exactly what that file Microsoft
 > offering is, I'd appreciate it. Or, if anyone has any tips on what might
be
 > causing that particular performance loss, I would be indebted.
 >
 > Khabs,
 > Mark
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

I think you'll find them a good stable driver but WITHOUT OpenGl support.
Microsoft uses DirectX only of course

"The Mighty MF" <sether01 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:104arrk2h444e39@corp.supernews.com...
 > Shown as "ATI Technologies Inc. display software update released on
December
 > 12 2003".
 > What is this? Is it the catalyst 4.2? I'm pretty weary about downloading
it
 > since I'm not exactly sure what it does (and it's MS, you know). Anyone
 > here try it? Did it improve or decrease performance at all? I tried
 > dejanews searching, but came up blank =(. Any info is appreciated.
 >
 > Khabs,
 > Mark
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:32:15 GMT, "pjp"
<pjpoirier_is_located_at_ DeleteThis @_hot_mail.com> wrote:

 >I think you'll find them a good stable driver but WITHOUT OpenGl support.
 >Microsoft uses DirectX only of course

Yea, but if you have previous drivers already installed and then let
the MS update install the ones they have then OPenGL will still work.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

Not if all you've ever done is install the OS and then gone to the update
site which is what I suspect happens to most people. They then believe the
have the latest and greatest drivers (for better or worse) and wonder why
specific games don't run.

"Debug" <de.RemoveThis@bug.invalid> wrote in message
news:agkc401cu05409eq142cvf2lev3qqob5mq@4ax.com...
 > On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:32:15 GMT, "pjp"
 > <pjpoirier_is_located_at_.RemoveThis@_hot_mail.com> wrote:
 >
  > >I think you'll find them a good stable driver but WITHOUT OpenGl support.
  > >Microsoft uses DirectX only of course
 >
 > Yea, but if you have previous drivers already installed and then let
 > the MS update install the ones they have then OPenGL will still work.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards .. 

Okay, it wasn't the next day, but I finally figured out how to fix my
problem. I did reinstall DirectX, and still the same bad performance with
1080p MS demo dvd's. For anyone else who is having this issue, this is what
worked for me. Credit goes to "amirm" over at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.avsforum.com." target="_blank">www.avsforum.com.</a> I'll take
no responsibility since this involves editing you registry, do so at your
own risk!... Summed up version below:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Preferences\VideoSettings
Add a new "dword" called "IgnoreAVSync" with a value 1.

Here's a link to the post:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3181569#post3181569" target="_blank">http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3181569#post3181569</a>

Just in case anyone else comes across this problem, this might fix it for
them, and save them some time =)

Take care,
Mark





The Mighty MF wrote:
 > Good point, maybe that's what got borked along the way. I'll try
 > that and report what happens tomorrow.
 >
 > Khabs,
 > Mark
 >
 > Debug wrote:
  >> Maybe you need to resinstall Directx9.0b? BTW, those Microsoft
  >> supplied drivers are probably the last drivers they have certified
  >> from ATI, but they are certainly not the most recent available. MS
  >> likes to try and get us all to use certified drivers, less hassles
  >> that way maybe.I used them for a while though and had no isssues with
  >> them that I can remember.I'm using the latest Omega drivers now
  >> though.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's this driver update at windows update for ATI cards ..