Name brand computers are ace!

On 5 Sep 2005 09:11:48 -0700, "BlastUK"
wrote:

>this reminds me of the time i had to help fix a friend's pc which was a
>compaq.. the recovery cds didn't work, there was nothing on it that you
>could run.. drivers were nowhere to be found, even a search on the web
>turned unsuccessful. the cases are so small and perfect for what parts
>they are sold with that upgrading anything hardware inside it was
>impossible.. man i hate brand name computers.
>
>all these home-made hacks for the drive bays or w/e are not worth the
>time.. besides, how many people actually have the tools to actually do
>some of the stuff you mention?

Get drivers from the chipset manufacturer... Even if Compaq
DID have the drivers accessible on their 'site.

If you're not able to do something because of inexperience
(doing it) or lack of tools or supplies, sure it seems a lot
more difficult than after you've actually done it- and
that's no different than any other area of life. You might
find that if you wanted to swap a 350 big-block into a Ford
Pickup truck that this too requires a bit of hackery.

"kony" wrote in message

> I'm talking about the case wiring, the front panel leads
> such as power, power & HDD LED, reset, front panel audio,
> etc.

That's all easy stuff.

> "Break"?
> Have you taken the front bezel off the case and looked at
> it? There may be a gentler way to do it.

No, with the later HP they were pretty much designed to snap off. The
earlier ones you need to cut off but the jagged edge will be visible.

> Perhaps instead of focusing only on your failures, you
> should also take a closer look at what've worked better.
> You have a mental block against making the effort so of
> course you won't get as good a result as if you had
> approached the issue differently.

Sure. Right at the moment I'm modifying a 40 year old australian car to put
in a new v6, gearbox, diff, brakes, steering and suspension. I know how to
modify. I also know when not to modify and making wooden floppy drive
buttons is one of those cases.

> You pity my customers because you're ignorant of the fact
> that just because you can't (or won't) do something, that
> doesn't mean others won't have satisfactory results.

I bet they're wrapped when they get their glued plastic cases back

> I don't recall suggesting a drill and hacksaw. If you have
> left out other details of things that the case may need,
> then certainly you may be right, it may not be worth the
> effort.

Read back through my replies to you.

> What do you mean, "find"?
> A solid plan well implemented will work.

I really find it amasing the length you will go to to defend these
computers. Simple fact is these cases are shite, the simplest method is to
replace it and move on. You are trying *real* hard to find this case
workable when it simply is not.

> If that's not your
> cup of tea, so be it, but that's an entirely separate issue
> from whether it's possible or time-consuming to do the
> simple things I'd mentioned.

Getting that tape drive to work in this machine would not be a simple thing.

> Never suggested you should spend that long... having
> actually done these types of things, I know it doesn't take
> that long.

Actually, having done these sort of things in the past I know they *always*
take longer than you expect. I'm certain if I sat you down with this case
you'd be there for several hours trying to come up with a reasonable
solution which would look pretty average in the end.

Michael