DVD dead + questions

"Joel" <Joel RemoveThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>> "Joel" <Joel RemoveThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>> >> "Joel" <Joel RemoveThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>> >> > "GT" <ContactGT_remove_ RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > <snip>
>> >> >> > Hi Joel,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks for the helpful and fast reply.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I guess IDE is the way forward then.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Only if you have an IDE controller with spare ports, otherwise SATA
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> way to go! Tell us more about your PC...
>> >> >
>> >> > Do we have SATA DVD burner these days? I know we have SATA hard
>> >> > drive
>> >> > and
>> >> > I have 2 but don't pay any attention to the DVD burner.
>> >>
>> >> I have one here!
>> >
>> > Thanks for the information. I will get one when my current 2 DVD
>> > burners
>> > act up. Hmmm... but then I dunno whata do with my hard drives, and I
>> > want
>> > to go for SATA hard drives instead of IDE hard drives (I have 4 hard
>> > drives
>> > and 2 DVDs on current system, 1 DVD just been disabled)
>>
>> Just keep them. If you have 5 IDE devices attached at the moment, then
>> you
>> obviously have an extra PCI EIDE controller card, so just keep that with
>> your hard drives attached.
>
> Yup! I am using EIDE controller and external hard drives as well (between
> desktops and notebooks). And I have been using additional EIDE controller
> for ages. And I can get rid of the EIDE controller when replace the 3
> existing IDE hard drives and 2 DVDs with SATA.
>
> What I meant that because SATA is faster than IDE, and if I go for SATA
> DVD then I will lose 1 SATA connection for hard drive <bg>

SATA I - 150Mbps
SATA II - 300Mbps
EIDE - 133Mbps
Typical HD - 60 to 70Mbps

Sata controllers can handle more throughput than EIDE controllers, but
current hard drives are only just fast enough to saturate half of an EIDE
channel at present, so maybe in a few years your statement will be true, but
for now, it simply doesn't matter. The cost and market demand should be the
overriding decision at the moment.
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Joel wrote:
> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_ RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> <snip>
>>> Hi Joel,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the helpful and fast reply.
>>>
>>> I guess IDE is the way forward then.
>> Only if you have an IDE controller with spare ports, otherwise SATA is the
>> way to go! Tell us more about your PC...
>
> Do we have SATA DVD burner these days? I know we have SATA hard drive and
> I have 2 but don't pay any attention to the DVD burner.

Yeah. I have them in two different systems. The latest was an 20X ASUS
with LightScribe which cost all of $31 at NewEgg. Dealing with SATA is
ever so much neater that PATA if you have the ports available.

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"Joel" <Joel.DeleteThis@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> > Thanks for the detailed information. I have 5 IDE drives and 2 SATA
>> > drives, and all I know that the SATA seems to be faster than EIDE. I
>> > don't
>> > know if mine is SATA-I or SATA-II, but I guess they probably SATA-I (?)
>>
>> That's simply because the SATA drives are newer, not down to the
>> controller
>> speed. With 2 modern, fast EIDE drives, it would be possible to saturate
>> a
>> single channel of an IDE controller, but you would need to copy a large
>> contiguous file from one drive to another drive on the same channel.
>>
>> > Also, with just the built-in controller, the momboard supports 4 EIDE
>> > devices and I am guessing 2 SATA devices (or 2 ports). I haven't done
>> > much
>> > research on SATA to know more, but I guess each port only support
>> > single
>> > SATA device (or from the cable came with the drives).
>>
>> Each SATA connector supports one SATA device. The number of connectors on
>> motherboards varies from board to board. Normally 2, 4 or 6.
>
> It seems like it's about time for me to upgrade my system to faster and
> more SATA drive supported. And I am going to end up with 3 older desktops
> laying around doing nothing <bg>

Format, dust, tidy, ebay.
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"Joel" <Joel.DeleteThis@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> John McGaw <nobody.DeleteThis@nowh.ere> wrote:
>
>> Joel wrote:
>> > "GT" <ContactGT_remove_.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >>> Hi Joel,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for the helpful and fast reply.
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess IDE is the way forward then.
>> >> Only if you have an IDE controller with spare ports, otherwise SATA is
>> >> the
>> >> way to go! Tell us more about your PC...
>> >
>> > Do we have SATA DVD burner these days? I know we have SATA hard drive
>> > and
>> > I have 2 but don't pay any attention to the DVD burner.
>>
>> Yeah. I have them in two different systems. The latest was an 20X ASUS
>> with LightScribe which cost all of $31 at NewEgg. Dealing with SATA is
>> ever so much neater that PATA if you have the ports available.
>
> I guess I am falling behind much faster than I would image. yeays ago, I
> usually try to be ahead of the game, but now I am getting a little too old
> to keep up with all the changes.
>
> Yes, when I bought my first SATA about little over 2 years ago, and I have
> to spend about 2 weeks reading some info to make sure I ain't too far off.
> And by that time I already seeing something about SATA II, and few other
> similar to SATA (PATA, ESATA whatever I can't remember them all). And the
> Video card too .. I am still using the same old G..something I can't
> remember the name at the moment <bg>

But if it all works and does what you need, then no problem! Only, it
clearly doesn't (MOHAA), hence this thread!
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James wrote:
>
> So I guess the simplet thing would be to buy a new one ? (not sure if they
> are fixable ?)

No.




> When buying one what I am looking for, I have no idea of the type of drive
> it is IDE or scuzi?? how to do you tell they apart.
>
> Other than that I guess you just disconnect the power feed, and the ribbon
> cable. align new one, usually with screws ? power feed back on, ribbon back
> on and install drivers ?
>
> Any advice on all this as not tinkered around with a desktop in a while.

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