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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:23:09 +0200, "KC6" <ksiaze_ciemnosci.TakeThisOut@yahoo.de>
wrote:

 >3dfx Voodoo 2 12 mb vs. Nvidia Riva TNT 16 mb?
 >

I don't see why you wouldn't be running both. Assuming you're trying
to do a retro gaming system with older hardware and an older windows
OS like 98 or 95, they get along great together. I was running a
similar combination for a while there. By now, I'd guess the pair
together can't be worth much more than $15 or $20 Canadian, so it's
not going to break the bank.

If we're talking win2k or XP, driver support isn't particularly great
for either of those cards. The TNT isn't even listed on NVidia's
site, but the older detonators might work. As far as the Voodoo2,
there's homebrew XP drivers, but they're kind of a hit/miss thing
depending on what you've got installed on your machine.



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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:09:49 -0400, MCheu <mpcheu.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:

 >On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:23:09 +0200, "KC6" <ksiaze_ciemnosci.RemoveThis@yahoo.de>
 >wrote:
 >
  >>3dfx Voodoo 2 12 mb vs. Nvidia Riva TNT 16 mb?
  >>
 >
 >I don't see why you wouldn't be running both. Assuming you're trying
 >to do a retro gaming system with older hardware and an older windows
 >OS like 98 or 95, they get along great together. I was running a
 >similar combination for a while there. By now, I'd guess the pair
 >together can't be worth much more than $15 or $20 Canadian, so it's
 >not going to break the bank.
 >
 >If we're talking win2k or XP, driver support isn't particularly great
 >for either of those cards. The TNT isn't even listed on NVidia's
 >site, but the older detonators might work. As far as the Voodoo2,
 >there's homebrew XP drivers, but they're kind of a hit/miss thing
 >depending on what you've got installed on your machine.


Even newest Detonators support TNT.

Neither card is going to be good for gaming, and the TNT isn't
likley to have very good/crisp output for 2D work either. Both
cards also produce fair amount of heat relative to their
usefulness. IMHO, an old ATI Rage Pro would be better for 2d
work or video related tasks, and anything newer being better for
3D. I suppose I'd lean toward leaving the Voodoo out of the
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kony <spam.TakeThisOut@spam.com> wrote in message news:<0k7jh0lie4r2vo0ngjt9r4facfrqdmrab2.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
 > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:09:49 -0400, MCheu <mpcheu.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:23:09 +0200, "KC6" <ksiaze_ciemnosci.TakeThisOut@yahoo.de>
  > >wrote:
  > >
   > >>3dfx Voodoo 2 12 mb vs. Nvidia Riva TNT 16 mb?
   > >>
  > >
  > >I don't see why you wouldn't be running both. Assuming you're trying
  > >to do a retro gaming system with older hardware and an older windows
  > >OS like 98 or 95, they get along great together. I was running a
  > >similar combination for a while there. By now, I'd guess the pair
  > >together can't be worth much more than $15 or $20 Canadian, so it's
  > >not going to break the bank.
  > >
  > >If we're talking win2k or XP, driver support isn't particularly great
  > >for either of those cards. The TNT isn't even listed on NVidia's
  > >site, but the older detonators might work. As far as the Voodoo2,
  > >there's homebrew XP drivers, but they're kind of a hit/miss thing
  > >depending on what you've got installed on your machine.
 >
 >
 > Even newest Detonators support TNT.

I was fairly certain that they did, but if you look at NVidia's
website, they don't even acknowledge that the TNT ever existed, it's
just not listed. The RIVA is, the TNT2 is, but the TNT is the missing
link (assuming they haven't fixed this oversight).

 >
 > Neither card is going to be good for gaming, and the TNT isn't
 > likley to have very good/crisp output for 2D work either. Both
 > cards also produce fair amount of heat relative to their
 > usefulness. IMHO, an old ATI Rage Pro would be better for 2d
 > work or video related tasks, and anything newer being better for
 > 3D. I suppose I'd lean toward leaving the Voodoo out of the
 > system and look for deals on something with better 2D output.

For modern gaming, yeah, they are pretty crappy, but if you're aiming
for a GLIDE compatible RETRO gaming system, they'd likely be fine.
The Voodoo2 tends to have fewer compatibility problems among older
GLide games than the later 2D/3D 3Dfx cards, and having one kind of
leaves your choice of 2D and direct3D support open to whatever you
want. There's no question that there are superior cards available,
but if you're building a system to play these old games at their
original speeds, you don't necessarily want to go overboard on
performance.

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On 11 Aug 2004 13:05:51 -0700, mpcheu.RemoveThis@yahoo.com (MCheu) wrote:


  >> Even newest Detonators support TNT.
 >
 >I was fairly certain that they did, but if you look at NVidia's
 >website, they don't even acknowledge that the TNT ever existed, it's
 >just not listed. The RIVA is, the TNT2 is, but the TNT is the missing
 >link (assuming they haven't fixed this oversight).

Yes, they don't list the Velocity 440 and perhaps a few others
inbetween the Riva 128 and TNT2 either, and I have no idea what
driver would be needed for the 440, perhaps the Riva 128 driver.


 >
  >>
  >> Neither card is going to be good for gaming, and the TNT isn't
  >> likley to have very good/crisp output for 2D work either. Both
  >> cards also produce fair amount of heat relative to their
  >> usefulness. IMHO, an old ATI Rage Pro would be better for 2d
  >> work or video related tasks, and anything newer being better for
  >> 3D. I suppose I'd lean toward leaving the Voodoo out of the
  >> system and look for deals on something with better 2D output.
 >
 >For modern gaming, yeah, they are pretty crappy, but if you're aiming
 >for a GLIDE compatible RETRO gaming system, they'd likely be fine.
 >The Voodoo2 tends to have fewer compatibility problems among older
 >GLide games than the later 2D/3D 3Dfx cards, and having one kind of
 >leaves your choice of 2D and direct3D support open to whatever you
 >want. There's no question that there are superior cards available,
 >but if you're building a system to play these old games at their
 >original speeds, you don't necessarily want to go overboard on
 >performance.
 >

Agreed, though the blurriness of the 2D is really distracting
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