Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick?

You can use a faster SATA type harddrive with that motherboard.

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DaveW

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"Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
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> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for a
> new hard drive?
> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
> details.
>
> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>
> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra
> ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a replacement but
> want a larger drive but a faster/better interface that will work with
> my motherboard.
>
> Many thanks
>
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Bob Brown wrote:
> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for a
> new hard drive?
> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
> details.
>
> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>
> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra
> ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a replacement but
> want a larger drive but a faster/better interface that will work with
> my motherboard.

Your motherboard will take either PATA or SATA drives. At present there
is little difference in speed between the two. I'd suggest another
PATA, like the one you have. Install it as slave on the present IDE
channel, use the software that comes with most new drives to transfer
the system and data from the old drive.

300GB PATA drives are pretty cheap now. They are almost all Ultra ATA
100/133. Get one before your present drive fails!

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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:45:32 GMT, VWWall <vwall.TakeThisOut@DEADearthlink.net>
wrote:

>Bob Brown wrote:
>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for a
>> new hard drive?
>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
>> details.
>>
>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>>
>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra
>> ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a replacement but
>> want a larger drive but a faster/better interface that will work with
>> my motherboard.
>
>Your motherboard will take either PATA or SATA drives. At present there
>is little difference in speed between the two. I'd suggest another
>PATA, like the one you have. Install it as slave on the present IDE
>channel, use the software that comes with most new drives to transfer
>the system and data from the old drive.
>
>300GB PATA drives are pretty cheap now. They are almost all Ultra ATA
>100/133. Get one before your present drive fails!

thanks for help
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"Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:45:32 GMT, VWWall <vwall.DeleteThis@DEADearthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Bob Brown wrote:
>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for a
>>> new hard drive?
>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
>>> details.
>>>
>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>>>
>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra
>>> ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a replacement but
>>> want a larger drive but a faster/better interface that will work with
>>> my motherboard.
>>
>>Your motherboard will take either PATA or SATA drives. At present there
>>is little difference in speed between the two. I'd suggest another
>>PATA, like the one you have. Install it as slave on the present IDE
>>channel, use the software that comes with most new drives to transfer
>>the system and data from the old drive.
>>
>>300GB PATA drives are pretty cheap now. They are almost all Ultra ATA
>>100/133. Get one before your present drive fails!
>
> thanks for help
>
>

once you have cloned the drive and the new one is running as C, get another
IDE drive, install it as the slave on the same ribbon and back up the data
on C using a proprietary software such as Acronis True Image.
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Bob Brown <.> wrote:

> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will
> take for a new hard drive?

You can use either IDE or SATA. SATA has more future,
because quite a few new systems can only have two IDE
drives and one of those is normally lost to the optical drive.

> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic details.

> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33

That will take a total of 4 IDE drives, both hard drives and optical drives.

> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"

That will take a total of 2 SATA drives. JBOD means that the drives dont
have to be in a RAID0 or RAID1 config and can be seen as individual drives.

> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE
> Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a replacement but
> want a larger drive but a faster/better interface that will work with my motherboard.

You can use any of the current IDE and SATA drives. It normally
makes sense to buy drives quite a bit bigger than 80G now,
essentially because that costs very little over the 80G drive price.

I personally avoid Maxtors for the reason you have just discovered.
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bob Brown <.> wrote:
>
>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will
>> take for a new hard drive?
>
> You can use either IDE or SATA. SATA has more future,
> because quite a few new systems can only have two IDE
> drives and one of those is normally lost to the optical drive.

Although everyone gave correct advice, if someone has to ask this type of
question it implies that he also might not understand the issue of
master/slave on an IDE channel and that the current system almost certainly
has the IDE channel filled with the old drive and a CD. So if he would get
another IDE (PATA - parallel ATA) drive he would have to do some minor
configuring that a novice might have trouble with. If he gets a SATA (serial
ATA) he simply plugs the new thing in to the completely separate and unused
sata connector on the motherboard and that's it - no jumpers to move, no CD
drive to disconnect, nothing. If he gets a new machine, it is much more
likely that the SATA can then be pulled out and used in the new machine,
while the IDE might not be usable in a new machine with a single IDE channel
and 2 optical drives that fill it up.

So I would recommending making sure that he gets a SATA (Serial ATA) drive -
making sure that it is a retail version so that it comes with a sata cable
(unless he already has one from the motherboard) since some of the retail
places charge ridiculous prices for Sata Cables and the SATA drive doesn't
fit on the same cable and connector as the old drive does - and then use
Acronis to do the cloning.

Jeff



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"Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
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> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for a
> new hard drive?
> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
> details.
>
> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"

not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....

>
> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra
> ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a replacement but
> want a larger drive but a faster/better interface

.....it is faster and future obsol -resistant



that will work with
> my motherboard.
>
> Many thanks
>
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Jeff <none DeleteThis @none.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote
>> Bob Brown <.> wrote:

>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will
>>> take for a new hard drive?

>> You can use either IDE or SATA. SATA has more future,
>> because quite a few new systems can only have two IDE
>> drives and one of those is normally lost to the optical drive.

> Although everyone gave correct advice, if someone has to ask this
> type of question it implies that he also might not understand the
> issue of master/slave on an IDE channel and that the current system
> almost certainly has the IDE channel filled with the old drive and a CD.

Nope, that motherboard has two IDE ports, 4 drives.

> So if he would get another IDE (PATA - parallel ATA) drive he would have to do some minor
> configuring that a novice might have trouble with. If he gets a SATA (serial ATA) he simply plugs
> the new thing in to the completely separate and unused sata connector on the motherboard and
> that's it - no jumpers to move, no CD drive to disconnect, nothing.

Its not always that easy when adding a sata drive.

> If he gets a new machine, it is much more likely that the SATA can then be pulled out and used in
> the new machine, while the IDE might not be usable in a new machine with a single IDE channel and
> 2 optical drives that fill it up.

Its not that likely to have 2 optical drives, and he may
well want to move both drives out of the old system too.

> So I would recommending making sure that he gets a SATA (Serial ATA)
> drive - making sure that it is a retail version so that it comes with
> a sata cable (unless he already has one from the motherboard) since
> some of the retail places charge ridiculous prices for Sata Cables
> and the SATA drive doesn't fit on the same cable and connector as the old drive does - and then
> use Acronis to do the cloning.
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JAD <kapasitor.DeleteThis@earthcharter.net> wrote:
> "Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
> news:ll62r25gbu44kkrlc1ucg1b13t7511opcq@bbb.org...
>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for
>> a new hard drive?
>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
>> details.
>>
>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>
> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>
>>
>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE
>> Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a
>> replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better interface

> ....it is faster

No it isnt.

> and future obsol -resistant
>
>
>
> that will work with
>> my motherboard.
>>
>> Many thanks
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote:
>> "Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
>> news:ll62r25gbu44kkrlc1ucg1b13t7511opcq@bbb.org...
>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for
>>> a new hard drive?
>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
>>> details.
>>>
>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>>
>> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>>
>>>
>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE
>>> Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a
>>> replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better interface
>
>> ....it is faster
>
> No it isnt.

ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?

>
>> and future obsol -resistant
>>
>>
>>
>> that will work with
>>> my motherboard.
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>
>
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JAD wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> No it isnt.
>
> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
>
"It isnt"(sic), means it is no slower than a SATA drive.
Most present drives use the same platter/head mechanism for both ATA and
SATA. Since none of these can exceed the ATA133 spec, the speed is
determined by the rate the "bits" pass under the head. With the same
areal density the drive's speed is determined only by RPM and not the
interface.

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:25:29 -0800, "JAD"
<kapasitor.TakeThisOut@earthcharter.net> wrote:

>
>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:51fkgkF1jqt80U1@mid.individual.net...
>> JAD <kapasitor.TakeThisOut@earthcharter.net> wrote:
>>> "Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
>>> news:ll62r25gbu44kkrlc1ucg1b13t7511opcq@bbb.org...
>>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for
>>>> a new hard drive?
>>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
>>>> details.
>>>>
>>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>>>
>>> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE
>>>> Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a
>>>> replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better interface
>>
>>> ....it is faster
>>
>> No it isnt.
>
>ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
>
>>

Anytime the drive has higher bit density, better firmware
optimization for the task (not always, offset by SATA300/NCQ
advantage in some cases), most times the SATA controller is
on the PCI bus.

There's little reason to pick one over the other merely
because one is perceived faster, it's more a matter of what
the equipment supports, available controller channels free
for use.

Arbitrarily wanting a "faster/better interface" is a bit of
a misunderstanding, trying to blame an interface for a
bottleneck that is elsewhere in single-drive configurations.
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"JAD" <kapasitor.TakeThisOut@earthcharter.net> wrote...
>
>>> ....it is faster
>>
>> No it isnt.
>
> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?

SATA2 may have higher theoretical bandwidth than EIDE/ATA, but the HDs'
physical limitations will likely be reached well before even the slower
ATA100 bandwidth is reached. So, the physical HD characteristics are more
important than the bus on which the HD is located. If a particular HD has
slower access times or higher latency, SATA2 isn't going to help it any.

Many SATA HDs are physically identical to their EIDE equivalents, save for
their interface electronics. Performance would be also about identical in
single-HD configurations.

Since SATA is "newer/bigger/better," new HDs may be available sooner in SATA
configuration, so the "biggest/fastest/bestest" may well be SATA HDs.
Otherwise, bus type doesn't give any specific performance advantage in
standard single HD configurations.
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