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Since: Dec 29, 2004
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:47 am
Post subject: Re: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"VWWall" <vwall.TakeThisOut@DEADearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> JAD wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> No it isnt.
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>> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
>>
> "It isnt"(sic), means it is no slower than a SATA drive.
> Most present drives use the same platter/head mechanism for both ATA and
> SATA. Since none of these can exceed the ATA133 spec, the speed is
> determined by the rate the "bits" pass under the head. With the same
> areal density the drive's speed is determined only by RPM and not the
> interface.
>
> --
> Virg Wall, P.E.
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Since: Feb 01, 2006
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>> Bob Brown <.> wrote
>>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for a new hard drive?
>>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic details.
>>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>>> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE
>>>> Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a
>>>> replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better interface
>>> ....it is faster
>> No it isnt.
> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
No one ever said anything about out running.
With a drive that is available in both ATA and SATA2 formats,
you'll find that they both perform at the same speed, because
the drive performance is limited by the drive physical characteristics,
rpm, sectors per track and seek times, not the interface speed.
>>> and future obsol -resistant
>>> that will work with my motherboard. |
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>> Bob Brown <.> wrote
>
>>>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for a
>>>>> new hard drive?
>
>>>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
>>>>> details.
>
>>>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>
>>>> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>
>>>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE
>>>>> Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a
>>>>> replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better interface
>
>>>> ....it is faster
>
>>> No it isnt.
>
>> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
>
> No one ever said anything about out running.
>
> With a drive that is available in both ATA and SATA2 formats,
> you'll find that they both perform at the same speed, because
> the drive performance is limited by the drive physical characteristics,
> rpm, sectors per track and seek times, not the interface speed.
My bad I left out....it is faster to' INSTALL'...than IDE..
..'^)
>
>>>> and future obsol -resistant
>
>>>> that will work with my motherboard.
>
> >> Stay informed about: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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JAD <kapasitor DeleteThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote
>> JAD <kapasitor DeleteThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>>> JAD <kapasitor DeleteThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>>> Bob Brown <.> wrote
>>>>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>>>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for a new hard drive?
>>>>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic details.
>>>>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>>>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>>>>> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>>>>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE
>>>>>> Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a
>>>>>> replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better interface
>>>>> ....it is faster
>>>> No it isnt.
>>> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
>> No one ever said anything about out running.
>> With a drive that is available in both ATA and SATA2 formats,
>> you'll find that they both perform at the same speed, because
>> the drive performance is limited by the drive physical characteristics, rpm, sectors per track
>> and seek times, not the interface speed.
> My bad
As always.
> I left out....it is faster to' INSTALL'...than IDE..
> .'^)
It isnt even that, liar.
>>>>> and future obsol -resistant
>>>>> that will work with my motherboard. >> Stay informed about: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>>>> Bob Brown <.> wrote
>
>>>>>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>>>>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will take for
>>>>>>> a new hard drive?
>
>>>>>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following cryptic
>>>>>>> details.
>
>>>>>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>>>>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>
>>>>>> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>
>>>>>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE
>>>>>>> Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need a
>>>>>>> replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better interface
>
>>>>>> ....it is faster
>
>>>>> No it isnt.
>
>>>> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
>
>>> No one ever said anything about out running.
>
>>> With a drive that is available in both ATA and SATA2 formats,
>>> you'll find that they both perform at the same speed, because
>>> the drive performance is limited by the drive physical characteristics,
>>> rpm, sectors per track and seek times, not the interface speed.
>
>> My bad
>
> As always.
>
>> I left out....it is faster to' INSTALL'...than IDE..
>> .'^)
>
> It isnt even that, liar.
yes it is.....damn IDE ribbons and all those pin locations...........(g)
>
>>>>>> and future obsol -resistant
>
>>>>>> that will work with my motherboard.
>
> >> Stay informed about: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:39 am
Post subject: Re: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>>>>> Bob Brown <.> wrote
>>>>>>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>>>>>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will
>>>>>>>> take for a new hard drive?
>>>>>>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following
>>>>>>>> cryptic details.
>>>>>>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>>>>>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>>>>>>> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>>>>>>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM
>>>>>>>> IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need
>>>>>>>> a replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better interface
>>>>>>> ....it is faster
>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
>>>> No one ever said anything about out running.
>>>> With a drive that is available in both ATA and SATA2 formats,
>>>> you'll find that they both perform at the same speed, because
>>>> the drive performance is limited by the drive physical characteristics, rpm, sectors per track
>>>> and seek times, not the interface speed.
>>> My bad
>> As always.
>>> I left out....it is faster to' INSTALL'...than IDE..
>>> .'^)
>> It isnt even that, liar.
> yes it is.....
We'll see...
> damn IDE ribbons and all those pin locations...........(g)
Pity about the flimsy SATA connectors that dont snap in solidly etc.
And the bios that disable the SATA ports by default.
And the SATA drivers that some motherboards need.
Etc etc etc.
You can disembowel yourself now.
>>>>>>> and future obsol -resistant
>>>>>>> that will work with my motherboard. >> Stay informed about: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:39 am
Post subject: Re: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> JAD <kapasitor RemoveThis @earthcharter.net> wrote
>>>>>>>> Bob Brown <.> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>> ASUS A8S-X Socket 939 SiS 756 ATX AMD Motherboard
>>>>>>>>> I need to know what type of interface this motherboard will
>>>>>>>>> take for a new hard drive?
>
>>>>>>>>> I checked the ASUS WEBSITE but it only list the following
>>>>>>>>> cryptic details.
>
>>>>>>>>> "2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
>>>>>>>>> 2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD"
>
>>>>>>>> not 'cryptic' at all get a SATA drive because.....
>
>>>>>>>>> I currently have "Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM
>>>>>>>>> IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive" and it is about to fail so I need
>>>>>>>>> a replacement but want a larger drive but a faster/better
>>>>>>>>> interface
>
>>>>>>>> ....it is faster
>
>>>>>>> No it isnt.
>
>>>>>> ok in what obscure configuration will an ata drive out run a sata2?
>
>>>>> No one ever said anything about out running.
>
>>>>> With a drive that is available in both ATA and SATA2 formats,
>>>>> you'll find that they both perform at the same speed, because
>>>>> the drive performance is limited by the drive physical
>>>>> characteristics, rpm, sectors per track and seek times, not the
>>>>> interface speed.
>
>>>> My bad
>
>>> As always.
>
>>>> I left out....it is faster to' INSTALL'...than IDE..
>>>> .'^)
>
>>> It isnt even that, liar.
>
>> yes it is.....
>
> We'll see...
>
>> damn IDE ribbons and all those pin locations...........(g)
>
> Pity about the flimsy SATA connectors that dont snap in solidly etc.
Yeah I agree about that,, I was convinced that those connectors were going
to cause data corruption. or busting off during a memory module upgrade or
other such tinkering.................
>
> And the bios that disable the SATA ports by default.
>
> And the SATA drivers that some motherboards need.
>
> Etc etc etc.
>
> You can disembowel yourself now.
>
>>>>>>>> and future obsol -resistant
>
>>>>>>>> that will work with my motherboard.
>
> >> Stay informed about: Need a hard drive, don't know interface to pick? |
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