*help* new monitor does not like my radeon card

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I'd look for monitor drivers. Since the AIW 9xxx and newer all support
higher resolutions than 1280x1024, it must be windows telling the card that
the monitor can't go any higher. Also, it's been a while since I've used 98
but I think there's a check box in the display properties that says
something like "hide unsupported modes". Uncheck that and your resolution
should be available.

Scott

"*muffin*" <muffin.DeleteThis@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> just got a new 20 in lcd monitor.
> its native resolution is 1400 x 1050
> I have the all-in-wonder radeon wonder card and it only has resolution up
> to
> 1280 x 1024
> suggestions on what to do?
> right now I am running 1024 x 768m this size seems best for me.
> I am running windows 98SE( yes I LOVE this version, my games are very
> happy
> running on this version)
> anyway, the text is just not 'sharp' , like its ghosted.
> I have searched ATI site, and other places bu tcannot find a fix to this,
> or
> driver. what am I missing? do I need a new video card? , but then what
> about
> the 98SE thing, I don't see more updaed drivers than I have.
>
>
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shoot I guess I forgot to mention I have the AIW radeon 8500.
uhhhh should upgrading to the 9xxx's fix this?


"Scott Paist" <spivonious_at_comcast_dot_net> wrote in message
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> I'd look for monitor drivers. Since the AIW 9xxx and newer all support
> higher resolutions than 1280x1024, it must be windows telling the card
that
> the monitor can't go any higher. Also, it's been a while since I've used
98
> but I think there's a check box in the display properties that says
> something like "hide unsupported modes". Uncheck that and your resolution
> should be available.
>
> Scott
>
> "*muffin*" <muffin DeleteThis @neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > just got a new 20 in lcd monitor.
> > its native resolution is 1400 x 1050
> > I have the all-in-wonder radeon wonder card and it only has resolution
up
> > to
> > 1280 x 1024
> > suggestions on what to do?
> > right now I am running 1024 x 768m this size seems best for me.
> > I am running windows 98SE( yes I LOVE this version, my games are very
> > happy
> > running on this version)
> > anyway, the text is just not 'sharp' , like its ghosted.
> > I have searched ATI site, and other places bu tcannot find a fix to
this,
> > or
> > driver. what am I missing? do I need a new video card? , but then what
> > about
> > the 98SE thing, I don't see more updaed drivers than I have.
> >
> >
>
>
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I only found it for XP.
I have win98se


"peter" <peterk.TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> try this
> http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/Step1.aspx
>
> most LCD monitors run best at their native resolution.If your Vid Card
> cannot handle that resolution its time to get a new vid card or return the
> LCD for one whose resolution matches the output of the vid card.
> peter
>
> --
> "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."
> "*muffin*" <muffin.TakeThisOut@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:edo7ln08r2@news3.newsguy.com...
> > just got a new 20 in lcd monitor.
> > its native resolution is 1400 x 1050
> > I have the all-in-wonder radeon wonder card and it only has resolution
up
> > to
> > 1280 x 1024
> > suggestions on what to do?
> > right now I am running 1024 x 768m this size seems best for me.
> > I am running windows 98SE( yes I LOVE this version, my games are very
> > happy
> > running on this version)
> > anyway, the text is just not 'sharp' , like its ghosted.
> > I have searched ATI site, and other places bu tcannot find a fix to
this,
> > or
> > driver. what am I missing? do I need a new video card? , but then what
> > about
> > the 98SE thing, I don't see more updaed drivers than I have.
> >
> >
>
>
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no disk with display.

when I first installed it, it seemed to go "OK" windows found driver for
it, but I am not sure 'if' I did something playing around with the ati
settings, since when I reboot the computer tells me it found an unknown
device, & wants to install it, but I can't figure out what to look for,
since it doesn't seem to find drivers on its own. arrghhhhh. so I cancel.
(but it didn't look anydifferent than when I 1st installed it.)



"The Kat" <news1.TakeThisOut@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:34:17 -0400, "*muffin*" <muffin.TakeThisOut@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >just got a new 20 in lcd monitor.
> >its native resolution is 1400 x 1050
> >I have the all-in-wonder radeon wonder card and it only has resolution up
to
> >1280 x 1024
> >suggestions on what to do?
>
> Run the driver disk that should have come with the display.
>
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Which AIW Radeon? Which interface (analog VGA or DVI)?

Re: "the text is just not 'sharp' , like its ghosted"

There are two possible explanations; it's possible that both are in play.

First, if you are using an analog interface (VGA analog 15-pin
connector), MOST of the monitor cables cause analog ghosting because
they are not of adequate quality (this will be much worse if you use an
extension cable).

Second, ANY TIME that you run at a resolution other than the native
resolution of the LCD panel, the dispaly has to be scaled, and this
ALWAYS degrades quality and sharpness.

For many reasons, you may be forced to move to Windows XP and also to
upgrade your video card. I still run 98SE also, on this system (it's
dual boot), but XP is a dramatically better OS than 98SE and it's really
past time to move to XP for your mainstream applications. [Of course it
goes without saying that XP itself is going to be replaced by Vista next
year].

I don't have a solution for you on the resolution issue, and you may
need to replace the video card to support that resolution. Also, if the
monitor has DVI, you should use (move to, if necessary) a DVI interface.

*muffin* wrote:
> just got a new 20 in lcd monitor.
> its native resolution is 1400 x 1050
> I have the all-in-wonder radeon wonder card and it only has resolution up to
> 1280 x 1024
> suggestions on what to do?
> right now I am running 1024 x 768m this size seems best for me.
> I am running windows 98SE( yes I LOVE this version, my games are very happy
> running on this version)
> anyway, the text is just not 'sharp' , like its ghosted.
> I have searched ATI site, and other places bu tcannot find a fix to this, or
> driver. what am I missing? do I need a new video card? , but then what about
> the 98SE thing, I don't see more updaed drivers than I have.
>
>
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It's really irrelevant whether the monitor comes with a disk or not. A
modern LCD monitor communicates with the video card to which it is
connected over the "DDC channel" (DDC = display data channel), a special
2-way serial port so that the monitor and display card can exchange
information about which resolutions and refresh rates they can BOTH
support. The "disks" that monitors sometimes come with are not true
drivers but rather simply text files that contain the same information
exchanged over the DDC channel, but modern systems use the DDC
information and ignore the static information from the disks.


The Kat wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:58:43 -0400, "*muffin*" <muffin.DeleteThis@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>no disk with display.
>
>
> Odd, I just got a ViewSonic 19" widescreen a month ago,
> and it did have a CD. Installed the correct settings easily.
>
> What make is your display? Did you check their website?
>
>
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*muffin* wrote:
> shoot I guess I forgot to mention I have the AIW radeon 8500.
> uhhhh should upgrading to the 9xxx's fix this?

No... 8500 is equal to at least 9200 and 9000. If you dont need more 3D
speed, upgrading is useless. The 8500 series usessame driver versions as the
latest ATI cards.

Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try Powerstrip.
You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility.

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Grtz,
Thomas
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> No... 8500 is equal to at least 9200 and 9000. If you dont need more 3D
> speed, upgrading is useless. The 8500 series usessame driver versions as
the
> latest ATI cards.
>
> Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try Powerstrip.
> You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility.

Best advice in this whole thread and it will solve the OP's problem, unless
the ghosting is caused by a monitor extension cable.

It always kills me when someone runs into a problem and the first thing
people recommend is to upgrade an OS. The OP clearly stated a preference for
98 so they have to work around that constraint.
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Re: "Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try
Powerstrip. You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility."

While trying Powerstrip is good advice, in this case the display card
probably really doesn't support a resolution that high .... that modern
display may well have more pixels on it's screen than the largest
display that existed when the AIW 8500 hardware was designed.


Thomas wrote:

> *muffin* wrote:
>
>>shoot I guess I forgot to mention I have the AIW radeon 8500.
>>uhhhh should upgrading to the 9xxx's fix this?
>
>
> No... 8500 is equal to at least 9200 and 9000. If you dont need more 3D
> speed, upgrading is useless. The 8500 series usessame driver versions as the
> latest ATI cards.
>
> Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try Powerstrip.
> You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility.
>
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yea tried the powerstrip
it let me make a NEW custom resolution, (1400x 1050) but it didn't make any
difference , in fact it was probably worse, since now everything was soooooo
teeeny on my screen I had to make the icons bigger & also all the
text.(which I probably would have to anyway doing this, right???( BUT when
I went to web pages the text was wayyyyyyy too small to read comfortably)..
so anyway I went back to the 1024x768.
now after trying to get some info from ATI they suggested the radeon 9600
series,, it should both let me get to the resolution & also run off of
win98..... but ... it is not an all-in-wonder card.<dang>.... & **WILL** I
still have the problem of eeentsy web page font?? or am I missing something?

((alright I 'might' eventually go to winxp,, but I'll probably dual boot
first to see if I have problems with running some of my software))
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Re: "Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try
> Powerstrip. You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility."
>
> While trying Powerstrip is good advice, in this case the display card
> probably really doesn't support a resolution that high .... that modern
> display may well have more pixels on it's screen than the largest
> display that existed when the AIW 8500 hardware was designed.
>
>
> Thomas wrote:
>
> > *muffin* wrote:
> >
> >>shoot I guess I forgot to mention I have the AIW radeon 8500.
> >>uhhhh should upgrading to the 9xxx's fix this?
> >
> >
> > No... 8500 is equal to at least 9200 and 9000. If you dont need more 3D
> > speed, upgrading is useless. The 8500 series usessame driver versions as
the
> > latest ATI cards.
> >
> > Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try
Powerstrip.
> > You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility.
> >
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*muffin* wrote:
> yea tried the powerstrip
> it let me make a NEW custom resolution, (1400x 1050) but it didn't
> make any difference , in fact it was probably worse, since now
> everything was soooooo teeeny on my screen I had to make the icons
> bigger & also all the text.(which I probably would have to anyway
> doing this, right???( BUT when I went to web pages the text was
> wayyyyyyy too small to read comfortably).. so anyway I went back to
> the 1024x768. now after trying to get some info from ATI they
> suggested the radeon 9600 series,, it should both let me get to the
> resolution & also run off of win98..... but ... it is not an
> all-in-wonder card.<dang>.... & **WILL** I still have the problem of
> eeentsy web page font?? or am I missing something?
>
> ((alright I 'might' eventually go to winxp,, but I'll probably dual
> boot first to see if I have problems with running some of my
> software))

Well, if 1400x1050 is a too high resolution for your eyes at 20", you
shouldn't have bought it My girlfriend had that resolution on her 15"
laptop screen, and will never want anything less
A 1280x1024 19" might be better for your eyes.

About the blurry part: you probly need to 'sync' the screen. 'Auto-adjust'
is supported on most screens. This will align the signal to the exact
location of the screen 'dots'.

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