help with my sata & ata drives please

my question is hopefully simple. i just want to know how can i hook up all
my drives and both writers? at the moment i can't get both writers to show
up.

I have on my mother board
2 SATA hard drives

1 ATA hard drive

1 DVD writer

1 CD writer

mobo info:
Mainboard
Manufacturer : Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : 2 Processor(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : 8IPE1000-G/L
Version : x.x
System BIOS : 08/19/2005-i865PE-6A79ZG0SC-00
Chipset : Intel 865/848 (Springdale)

here is the layout of my drives:

ch. 0 master = maxtor (ata drive)
ch. 0 slave = none

ch. 1 master = atapi dvd/cd rom
ch.1 slave = none

ide ch. 2 = sata (win xp installation)
ide ch. 3 = sata (storage)

i think i'm not doing the something wrong in the cmos settings. should i
set the ide detection to "auto, none or manual"? maybe i am setting
something wrong in the intergrated peripherals with the "on-chip sata"
settings? i just can't figure it out. can somebody please help me so it
will see all of my drives please? thanks in advanced!

kreepz wrote:
> my question is hopefully simple. i just want to know how can i hook up all
> my drives and both writers? at the moment i can't get both writers to show
> up.
>
> I have on my mother board
> 2 SATA hard drives
>
> 1 ATA hard drive
>
> 1 DVD writer
>
> 1 CD writer
>
> mobo info:
> Mainboard
> Manufacturer : Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
> Multi-Processor (MP) Support : 2 Processor(s)
> MPS Version : 1.40
> Model : 8IPE1000-G/L
> Version : x.x
> System BIOS : 08/19/2005-i865PE-6A79ZG0SC-00
> Chipset : Intel 865/848 (Springdale)
>
> here is the layout of my drives:
>
> ch. 0 master = maxtor (ata drive)
> ch. 0 slave = none
>
> ch. 1 master = atapi dvd/cd rom
> ch.1 slave = none
>
> ide ch. 2 = sata (win xp installation)
> ide ch. 3 = sata (storage)
>
> i think i'm not doing the something wrong in the cmos settings. should i
> set the ide detection to "auto, none or manual"? maybe i am setting
> something wrong in the intergrated peripherals with the "on-chip sata"
> settings? i just can't figure it out. can somebody please help me so it
> will see all of my drives please? thanks in advanced!

At one level, there is the issue of IDE devices playing nice on
an IDE ribbon cable. The drives have options like master/slave/cable_select,
which are jumper options. Some options would be:

1) Both drives jumpered "cable select" or CS. For this to work, the
ribbon cable should have 80 wires. (When you look at IDE cables, one
kind of cable has fatter looking wires, and if you count them, there
are 40 wires. The other kind has thinner looking wire, and there are
80 wires. The 80 wire cable is setup for cable_select. So only use
Cable Select, if using an 80 wire cable.)

2) One drive could be jumpered "Master" and the other one "Slave".
Suitable for either 40 wire or 80 wire cable. If only one drive
is present, it goes on the end of the cable, and would be "Master".
The second drive would be added to the middle connector, and would
be "Slave". The advantage of that choice, is if you unplug the
middle drive, then the end one doesn't need the jumper to be
changed. In fact, with both drives present, you could jumper for
"Slave" on the end of the cable. But if dropping down to just one
drive, then you'd have to change the jumper again to Master.

So you can play around with that for a bit, and see if it makes a difference.

The ICH5 is complicated, by virtue of the fact that Intel tried to make
it flexible and handle more than one OS without needing drivers for the
simplest configurations.

For Win98, the OS is designed for four drives. On computers of that era,
there were two IDE connectors, two drives max per connector, for a total
of four drives. The controllers are mapped into the I/O space, at well
known addresses. IRQ14 and IRQ15 are used for interrupts from the
controller. Win98 has a built in driver, and Intel wanted it to work.

But notice that the ICH5 controls up to six drives. For the two SATA
connectors, you can pretend for a moment, that they are equivalent to
a third IDE cable, as far as the computer is concerned. Since Win98 only
supports four drives, and six are available, the BIOS setup is used to
determine which four of six drives are visible. For example, you could
use one IDE cable, and two SATA drives, and have them all visible in
Win98. The other IDE cable could not be used in Win98. The BIOS for
the motherboard, then needs options to enable four of six drives.

For Win2K/WinXP or later, all six drives can be seen. In that case, with
the right minimum service pack, Windows has a driver that can handle
PCI mapped storage devices. Thus, four drives on IDE and two drives on
SATA, can all be handled at the same time.

If you look at the BIOS, your BIOS is different than some motherboards,
in exposing those options. As near as I can tell:

On chip SATA [Manual]
SATA Port0 configure as [Sata Port 0]
SATA Port1 configure as [Sata Port 1]

is an unambiguous way of setting it up for WinXP. That says you want
to use all six drive ports, and don't want the BIOS fooling around
with which ports are enabled. In theory, the "On chip SATA" [Auto]
should do the right thing, based on your description of the five
drives you're using. So my suggestion above is not mandatory. In
other words, "it *should* have worked".

So what I'd do, is go back and look carefully at how you set up
the drives. If making one Master and the other one Slave, for the
opticals is not working, then try swapping their roles. Make the
first one Slave and the other one Master. And if that doesn't work,
make sure you have an 80 wire cable, and then set both
opticals to Cable_Select.

Also, another option you have, is to place one hard drive and one
optical on the same ribbon cable. Drive transfer rates are independent
on modern computers, so a mixture of a slow optical and a fast hard
drive, does not "force" the hard drive to run slower. They each can
have their own ATA rate.

So if the two opticals on the same cable, don't play nice and
get detected, you can also put a hard drive and an optical on
the same cable. Then play with making one Master and the other
one Slave, and see if the detection phase goes any better.

I expect playing with the cables, at this point, is better
than fooling around in the BIOS. For the ICH5 generation of
hardware, the BIOS is usually set up by default, for WinXP, and
only needs messing around, if you want to run Win98.

You should not need to fool with "Detection". Leave such functions
at [Auto], at least for now. I've had one of my early motherboards,
hang in the BIOS, when you fool around with Detection. So for the
time being, I'd try cable reconfiguration as a first step. There
are some older optical drives, where not all the Master/Slave/CS
functions work equally well, which is why some experimentation
may be needed at the cable level.

HTH,
Paul