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Since: Feb 02, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:46 pm
Post subject: Can someone give an honest opinion 2800XP+Barton Archived from groups: alt>comp>hardware>amd>thunderbird (more info?)
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I have been reading about thunderbirds,athalons, and bartons, all
week, and I can honestly say that I am 100% confused!!!
I just ordered a new system, that will be used mainly for audio and
home video files, as well as surfing the net.This is my first AMD
processor (have been fooled by Intel for 20 years) The new system is
as follows:
* AMD Athlon XP Barton 2800+ 2.083 GHz 333Mhz BUS 512k
* Spire WhisperRock IV ultra quite Copper Base socket A fan
* ASUS A7N8XDX NFORCE2 DDR400, 8XAGP, Sound, Lan, SATA, IEEE, USB2.0
* 2 X 512Mb PC 3200 DDR400
* 40.0GB Maxtor DiamondMax 7200rpm UDMA 133
* CD/CD-RW/DVD COMBO 52x24x52x16
* Mitsumi 3.5" floppy disk 1.44 Mb
* 256 Bit AGP 3D Graphics card (up to 64 mb shared onboard)
* AC 97 32 BIT Full Duplex sound card (onboard)
* 56K V.90 AMR/CNR Modem riser card
* 10/100 Network card adapter (onboard)
* PowMax Mid Tower ATX Case 300W w/ Front USB
* Multimedia amplified stereo speakers
I also plan to use HDD and CD/RW drives from my %$% HP Pavilion ( if
possible) comments appreciated.
Thanks for your time,
Wildbill >> Stay informed about: Can someone give an honest opinion 2800XP+Barton |
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Since: Feb 02, 2004 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:09 am
Post subject: Re: Can someone give an honest opinion 2800XP+Barton [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I'd reccomend a bigger hard drive for one, if you're doing music and video.
You can burn up forty gigs right quick. (Maybe you should even get into
RAID; I've got a crapload of storage coming soon...so I'll have near a half
terabyte w00t). If you're using XP Professional on your Pavillion you will
need to reformat the drive to make it work in a new drive controller setup.
Honestly to me it almost sounds like overkill, but better over than
underbuilt.
Thunderbird: First Athlon core for Socket 462. 100 or 133 MHz front side
bus. Non-DDR AFAIK. I wouldn't buy one, you can get an Applebred Duron at
1.6 for maybe $5 more.
T-Bred: There are two versions of this core which is a tremendous
improvement on the tbird. Most XP anythings (excepting some 2500, 2600,
2800s and all 3000 and 3200s) are all T-Bred cores.
Barton: More cache than the T-bred and more effecient
architecture...therefore lower clock rates and higher performance. XP3000,
3200s are all Bartons as well as certain 2500, 2600, 2700 and 2800 model XP
processors.
If you need more info, lemme know, or ask Wes; he's more of a wizard at the
real nitty-gritty. Good luck and have fun.
--
Doug Whitesell
zigspalffy33 [at_symbol] verizon [dot] net
all your base are belong to us
"Wildbill" <wildbillnwv RemoveThis @charter.net> wrote in message
news:6m5u10db8mdjrmeiompgsrunaiodpp0f1n@4ax.com...
> I have been reading about thunderbirds,athalons, and bartons, all
> week, and I can honestly say that I am 100% confused!!!
>
> I just ordered a new system, that will be used mainly for audio and
> home video files, as well as surfing the net.This is my first AMD
> processor (have been fooled by Intel for 20 years) The new system is
> as follows:
>
> * AMD Athlon XP Barton 2800+ 2.083 GHz 333Mhz BUS 512k
> * Spire WhisperRock IV ultra quite Copper Base socket A fan
> * ASUS A7N8XDX NFORCE2 DDR400, 8XAGP, Sound, Lan, SATA, IEEE, USB2.0
> * 2 X 512Mb PC 3200 DDR400
> * 40.0GB Maxtor DiamondMax 7200rpm UDMA 133
> * CD/CD-RW/DVD COMBO 52x24x52x16
> * Mitsumi 3.5" floppy disk 1.44 Mb
> * 256 Bit AGP 3D Graphics card (up to 64 mb shared onboard)
> * AC 97 32 BIT Full Duplex sound card (onboard)
> * 56K V.90 AMR/CNR Modem riser card
> * 10/100 Network card adapter (onboard)
> * PowMax Mid Tower ATX Case 300W w/ Front USB
> * Multimedia amplified stereo speakers
> I also plan to use HDD and CD/RW drives from my %$% HP Pavilion ( if
> possible) comments appreciated.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Wildbill
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Since: Feb 09, 2004 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Can someone give an honest opinion 2800XP+Barton [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Wildbill" <wildbillnwv DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
news:6m5u10db8mdjrmeiompgsrunaiodpp0f1n@4ax.com...
> I have been reading about thunderbirds,athalons, and bartons, all
> week, and I can honestly say that I am 100% confused!!!
>
> I just ordered a new system, that will be used mainly for audio and
> home video files, as well as surfing the net.This is my first AMD
> processor (have been fooled by Intel for 20 years) The new system is
> as follows:
>
> * AMD Athlon XP Barton 2800+ 2.083 GHz 333Mhz BUS 512k
> * Spire WhisperRock IV ultra quite Copper Base socket A fan
> * ASUS A7N8XDX NFORCE2 DDR400, 8XAGP, Sound, Lan, SATA, IEEE, USB2.0
> * 2 X 512Mb PC 3200 DDR400
> * 40.0GB Maxtor DiamondMax 7200rpm UDMA 133
> * CD/CD-RW/DVD COMBO 52x24x52x16
> * Mitsumi 3.5" floppy disk 1.44 Mb
> * 256 Bit AGP 3D Graphics card (up to 64 mb shared onboard)
> * AC 97 32 BIT Full Duplex sound card (onboard)
> * 56K V.90 AMR/CNR Modem riser card
> * 10/100 Network card adapter (onboard)
> * PowMax Mid Tower ATX Case 300W w/ Front USB
> * Multimedia amplified stereo speakers
Hi there,
I run a similar system and do quite a lot of video work, as another poster
has said video capture/editing eat disk space. I often capture an hour from
my dv cam, edit it and render to dvd, it uses around 25 - 30GB including
original capture, aux files and final dvd for an hour of dvd quality video,
I've now got four disks totalling 560GB.
I went with raid 0 for a while for the speed increase, but it scared the
s**t out of me, if one drive fails you loose it all, how the hell do you
back up 2 x 120GB of video/data. I got another couple of drives, backed up
my stuff and removed raid, the speed decrease wasn't noticeable anyway and
now I have 2 copies of my critical stuff.
Intel is supposed to be a lot faster than AMD for video rendering, due to
SSE2 support. I'm happy with my AMD setup, but if I had to do it again I'd
consider Intel due to SSE2.
I'd definitely consider a bigger power supply and more disk space.
HTH
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Since: Feb 02, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Can someone give an honest opinion 2800XP+Barton [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:41:54 -0000, "IanDunbar"
<REMOVEMEian_dunbar6 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Wildbill" <wildbillnwv DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
>news:6m5u10db8mdjrmeiompgsrunaiodpp0f1n@4ax.com...
>> I have been reading about thunderbirds,athalons, and bartons, all
>> week, and I can honestly say that I am 100% confused!!!
>>
>> I just ordered a new system, that will be used mainly for audio and
>> home video files, as well as surfing the net.This is my first AMD
>> processor (have been fooled by Intel for 20 years) The new system is
>> as follows:
>>
>> * AMD Athlon XP Barton 2800+ 2.083 GHz 333Mhz BUS 512k
>> * Spire WhisperRock IV ultra quite Copper Base socket A fan
>> * ASUS A7N8XDX NFORCE2 DDR400, 8XAGP, Sound, Lan, SATA, IEEE, USB2.0
>> * 2 X 512Mb PC 3200 DDR400
>> * 40.0GB Maxtor DiamondMax 7200rpm UDMA 133
>> * CD/CD-RW/DVD COMBO 52x24x52x16
>> * Mitsumi 3.5" floppy disk 1.44 Mb
>> * 256 Bit AGP 3D Graphics card (up to 64 mb shared onboard)
>> * AC 97 32 BIT Full Duplex sound card (onboard)
>> * 56K V.90 AMR/CNR Modem riser card
>> * 10/100 Network card adapter (onboard)
>> * PowMax Mid Tower ATX Case 300W w/ Front USB
>> * Multimedia amplified stereo speakers
>
>Hi there,
>
>I run a similar system and do quite a lot of video work, as another poster
>has said video capture/editing eat disk space. I often capture an hour from
>my dv cam, edit it and render to dvd, it uses around 25 - 30GB including
>original capture, aux files and final dvd for an hour of dvd quality video,
>I've now got four disks totalling 560GB.
>
>I went with raid 0 for a while for the speed increase, but it scared the
>s**t out of me, if one drive fails you loose it all, how the hell do you
>back up 2 x 120GB of video/data. I got another couple of drives, backed up
>my stuff and removed raid, the speed decrease wasn't noticeable anyway and
>now I have 2 copies of my critical stuff.
>
>Intel is supposed to be a lot faster than AMD for video rendering, due to
>SSE2 support. I'm happy with my AMD setup, but if I had to do it again I'd
>consider Intel due to SSE2.
>
>I'd definitely consider a bigger power supply and more disk space.
>
>HTH
>
>Ian
>
Thanks for the input! I think you are correct about the HDD space, but
I wanted a second opinion.
Thanks,
Wildbill<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can someone give an honest opinion 2800XP+Barton |
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