i'm getting hot - help please

Jump into cold water!
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"Gerd Altmann" <g.altmann.RemoveThis@uni.de> wrote in message
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 > Jump into cold water!
Lol.
How much thermal paste are you using?
You should spread it on very thin, you should almost be able to read whats
on the cpu.
If you can't, you have too much, and the heat will be transfered back to
the CPU.
I hope this helps.
Denny. With a smile, even if times are bad.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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One thing that helped my system was lapping the heatsink. It was
time-consuming but cpu temp dropped by about 8C.

- Robert -

"Simon" <noway.DeleteThis@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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 > Hello Everybody
 >
 > My P4 2.6C idles at 42c and goes upto 67c under heavy load using stock
intel
 > fan. I think it's too high. Using a gigabyte 8IK1100 if that makes any
 > difference. I've got a fans front and back of case.
 >
 > Simon
 >
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i would add additional air cooling fans in case and take hsf of and reapply
as3 (very very thin) thinner the better.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:46:19 +0000 (UTC), "Simon" <noway.DeleteThis@btinternet.com>
wrote:

 >:>Hello Everybody
 >:>
 >:>My P4 2.6C idles at 42c and goes upto 67c under heavy load using stock intel
 >:>fan. I think it's too high. Using a gigabyte 8IK1100 if that makes any
 >:>difference. I've got a fans front and back of case.
 >:>
 >:>Simon
 >:>

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Lee.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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With all the porn spam showing up lately, you
might want to rethink your Subject line.

( Not that I have anything against porn or the
Hormel product)

"Gerd Altmann" <g.altmann.DeleteThis@uni.de> wrote in message
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 > Jump into cold water!

Yeah, cold water's great! Just ask at the Danger Den.

LoL;
Ken<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Simon,

I am running the same chip on an ASUS P4P800DLX with a Zalmann 7000
heat sink and fan with idle temp of 27c and playing Call of Duty at
41c and this is overclocking the 2.6C to 3.12 GHz.

Maybe you should consider a new motherboard.

Don

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:46:19 +0000 (UTC), "Simon"
<noway.RemoveThis@btinternet.com> wrote:

 >Hello Everybody
 >
 >My P4 2.6C idles at 42c and goes upto 67c under heavy load using stock intel
 >fan. I think it's too high. Using a gigabyte 8IK1100 if that makes any
 >difference. I've got a fans front and back of case.
 >
 >Simon
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made you look though!

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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 > With all the porn spam showing up lately, you
 > might want to rethink your Subject line.
 >
 > ( Not that I have anything against porn or the
 > Hormel product)
 >
 > "Gerd Altmann" <g.altmann.RemoveThis@uni.de> wrote in message
 > news:ke3f00h7bfb9m0emtnhton3g0ocj4iqiin@4ax.com...
  > > Jump into cold water!
 >
 > Yeah, cold water's great! Just ask at the Danger Den.
 >
 > LoL;
 > Ken
 >
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surely you mean new cooler.

"Don Mahony" <mahonyd.DeleteThis@REMOVElook.ca> wrote in message
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 > Simon,
 >
 > I am running the same chip on an ASUS P4P800DLX with a Zalmann 7000
 > heat sink and fan with idle temp of 27c and playing Call of Duty at
 > 41c and this is overclocking the 2.6C to 3.12 GHz.
 >
 > Maybe you should consider a new motherboard.
 >
 > Don
 >
 > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:46:19 +0000 (UTC), "Simon"
 > <noway.DeleteThis@btinternet.com> wrote:
 >
  > >Hello Everybody
  > >
  > >My P4 2.6C idles at 42c and goes upto 67c under heavy load using stock
intel
  > >fan. I think it's too high. Using a gigabyte 8IK1100 if that makes any
  > >difference. I've got a fans front and back of case.
  > >
  > >Simon
  > >
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 >> Stay informed about: i'm getting hot - help please 

I had similar temps to you on my P4PE board, running the stock HS/fan unit
on a P4 2.4b processor (about 45 idle, and 65+ under load). I was
over-clocking it to 3.06 GHz.

I ended up yanking off the HS, cleaning and lapping the bottom, and putting
it back on with Arctic Silver 3. The temps dropped down by about 6 degrees
idle, and about 10 degrees under load. No worries now! A good HS is
probably on my list of things to get, but better case ventilation would
probably also help. I don't have any case fans, just two power supply fans.
Do a search for "lapping heatsinks" on Google for more details.

Clint

"Simon" <noway RemoveThis @btinternet.com> wrote in message
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 > Hello Everybody
 >
 > My P4 2.6C idles at 42c and goes upto 67c under heavy load using stock
intel
 > fan. I think it's too high. Using a gigabyte 8IK1100 if that makes any
 > difference. I've got a fans front and back of case.
 >
 > Simon
 >
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BTW, I think the lapping helped on my HS because there was a noticable dish
in the bottom of it, when you held it up to the light with a straight-edge
on it. So it would have only had good contact on two of the edges, and not
at all in the middle.

Clint

"Clint Neufeld" <noone DeleteThis @nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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 > I had similar temps to you on my P4PE board, running the stock HS/fan unit
 > on a P4 2.4b processor (about 45 idle, and 65+ under load). I was
 > over-clocking it to 3.06 GHz.
 >
 > I ended up yanking off the HS, cleaning and lapping the bottom, and
putting
 > it back on with Arctic Silver 3. The temps dropped down by about 6
degrees
 > idle, and about 10 degrees under load. No worries now! A good HS is
 > probably on my list of things to get, but better case ventilation would
 > probably also help. I don't have any case fans, just two power supply
fans.
 > Do a search for "lapping heatsinks" on Google for more details.
 >
 > Clint
 >
 > "Simon" <noway DeleteThis @btinternet.com> wrote in message
 > news:bu7mqb$lq9$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
  > > Hello Everybody
  > >
  > > My P4 2.6C idles at 42c and goes upto 67c under heavy load using stock
 > intel
  > > fan. I think it's too high. Using a gigabyte 8IK1100 if that makes any
  > > difference. I've got a fans front and back of case.
  > >
  > > Simon
  > >
  > >
 >
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"Clint Neufeld" <noone RemoveThis @nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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 > I had similar temps to you on my P4PE board, running the stock HS/fan unit
 > on a P4 2.4b processor (about 45 idle, and 65+ under load). I was
 > over-clocking it to 3.06 GHz.
 >
 > I ended up yanking off the HS, cleaning and lapping the bottom, and
putting
 > it back on with Arctic Silver 3. The temps dropped down by about 6
degrees
 > idle, and about 10 degrees under load. No worries now! A good HS is
 > probably on my list of things to get, but better case ventilation would
 > probably also help. I don't have any case fans, just two power supply
fans.
 > Do a search for "lapping heatsinks" on Google for more details.
 >
Getting case ventilation right is cheap and fairly easy, especially as a lot
of cases have such tiny intake slots. A bit of cutting with an
exacto/stanley knife and bingo! The case breathes better.

On some cases the rear fan grilles are a series of drilled holes in the back
panel and they are very restrictive. I had a case like that so I cut out
the circular grill area, using the fan as a template. I re-mounted the fan
using an old chrome wire grill and it now blows out a lot more air and the
box temp is cooler. Also check out the front intakes in the case metalwork
as well, some cases only breathe through the front fan grills and if they
are the drilled type then they probably will need cutting out.

On my power supply the air intake is a row of 3-4mm wide vertical slots
separated by about 3-4mm of metal. To get more air through I used needle
nose pliers to twist the metal between the slots 90 degrees from the PS case
face. It breathes better though if I want the ultimate I'll have to get a
two fan power supply and install chrome wire grills. I don't want to hack
the powersupply case.

The case hacking should get the temps down enough but if not then start
adding some fans.

If you CPU is mounted up under the powersupply then you may not need extra
case fans. I had a socket 7 board that had the CPU socket half down the
board along the front edge. I put it in a case with fan mounts for 2 front,
two rear and one side but did not mount any fans. The CPU ran very hot,
almost at the limit most time and I did get some heat lockups. A study of
the case and board layout showed me that though plenty of air was going out
the back of the powersupply no cool fresh air was going to the CPU fan. As
an experiment I taped up the rear and side fan holes and the CPU temps
dropped 15-20C as the air was now entering the case through the front
intakes only and this was in line with the CPU and PS intake.

Check your system out, maybe you can use a few of the above ideas.

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and get round ide cables, better air flow in the case.

locust

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:31:13 GMT, "Dave" <dave2972.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >
 >"Clint Neufeld" <noone.RemoveThis@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
 >news:vBhPb.191979$JQ1.24974@pd7tw1no...
  >> I had similar temps to you on my P4PE board, running the stock HS/fan unit
  >> on a P4 2.4b processor (about 45 idle, and 65+ under load). I was
  >> over-clocking it to 3.06 GHz.
  >>
  >> I ended up yanking off the HS, cleaning and lapping the bottom, and
 >putting
  >> it back on with Arctic Silver 3. The temps dropped down by about 6
 >degrees
  >> idle, and about 10 degrees under load. No worries now! A good HS is
  >> probably on my list of things to get, but better case ventilation would
  >> probably also help. I don't have any case fans, just two power supply
 >fans.
  >> Do a search for "lapping heatsinks" on Google for more details.
  >>
 >Getting case ventilation right is cheap and fairly easy, especially as a lot
 >of cases have such tiny intake slots. A bit of cutting with an
 >exacto/stanley knife and bingo! The case breathes better.
 >
 >On some cases the rear fan grilles are a series of drilled holes in the back
 >panel and they are very restrictive. I had a case like that so I cut out
 >the circular grill area, using the fan as a template. I re-mounted the fan
 >using an old chrome wire grill and it now blows out a lot more air and the
 >box temp is cooler. Also check out the front intakes in the case metalwork
 >as well, some cases only breathe through the front fan grills and if they
 >are the drilled type then they probably will need cutting out.
 >
 >On my power supply the air intake is a row of 3-4mm wide vertical slots
 >separated by about 3-4mm of metal. To get more air through I used needle
 >nose pliers to twist the metal between the slots 90 degrees from the PS case
 >face. It breathes better though if I want the ultimate I'll have to get a
 >two fan power supply and install chrome wire grills. I don't want to hack
 >the powersupply case.
 >
 >The case hacking should get the temps down enough but if not then start
 >adding some fans.
 >
 >If you CPU is mounted up under the powersupply then you may not need extra
 >case fans. I had a socket 7 board that had the CPU socket half down the
 >board along the front edge. I put it in a case with fan mounts for 2 front,
 >two rear and one side but did not mount any fans. The CPU ran very hot,
 >almost at the limit most time and I did get some heat lockups. A study of
 >the case and board layout showed me that though plenty of air was going out
 >the back of the powersupply no cool fresh air was going to the CPU fan. As
 >an experiment I taped up the rear and side fan holes and the CPU temps
 >dropped 15-20C as the air was now entering the case through the front
 >intakes only and this was in line with the CPU and PS intake.
 >
 >Check your system out, maybe you can use a few of the above ideas.
 >
 >Dave
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already have round cables thanx

"end user" <locust RemoveThis @gregarious.com> wrote in message
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 > and get round ide cables, better air flow in the case.
 >
 > locust
 >
 > On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:31:13 GMT, "Dave" <dave2972 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  > >
  > >"Clint Neufeld" <noone RemoveThis @nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
  > >news:vBhPb.191979$JQ1.24974@pd7tw1no...
   > >> I had similar temps to you on my P4PE board, running the stock HS/fan
unit
   > >> on a P4 2.4b processor (about 45 idle, and 65+ under load). I was
   > >> over-clocking it to 3.06 GHz.
   > >>
   > >> I ended up yanking off the HS, cleaning and lapping the bottom, and
  > >putting
   > >> it back on with Arctic Silver 3. The temps dropped down by about 6
  > >degrees
   > >> idle, and about 10 degrees under load. No worries now! A good HS
is
   > >> probably on my list of things to get, but better case ventilation would
   > >> probably also help. I don't have any case fans, just two power supply
  > >fans.
   > >> Do a search for "lapping heatsinks" on Google for more details.
   > >>
  > >Getting case ventilation right is cheap and fairly easy, especially as a
lot
  > >of cases have such tiny intake slots. A bit of cutting with an
  > >exacto/stanley knife and bingo! The case breathes better.
  > >
  > >On some cases the rear fan grilles are a series of drilled holes in the
back
  > >panel and they are very restrictive. I had a case like that so I cut out
  > >the circular grill area, using the fan as a template. I re-mounted the
fan
  > >using an old chrome wire grill and it now blows out a lot more air and
the
  > >box temp is cooler. Also check out the front intakes in the case
metalwork
  > >as well, some cases only breathe through the front fan grills and if they
  > >are the drilled type then they probably will need cutting out.
  > >
  > >On my power supply the air intake is a row of 3-4mm wide vertical slots
  > >separated by about 3-4mm of metal. To get more air through I used needle
  > >nose pliers to twist the metal between the slots 90 degrees from the PS
case
  > >face. It breathes better though if I want the ultimate I'll have to get
a
  > >two fan power supply and install chrome wire grills. I don't want to
hack
  > >the powersupply case.
  > >
  > >The case hacking should get the temps down enough but if not then start
  > >adding some fans.
  > >
  > >If you CPU is mounted up under the powersupply then you may not need
extra
  > >case fans. I had a socket 7 board that had the CPU socket half down the
  > >board along the front edge. I put it in a case with fan mounts for 2
front,
  > >two rear and one side but did not mount any fans. The CPU ran very hot,
  > >almost at the limit most time and I did get some heat lockups. A study
of
  > >the case and board layout showed me that though plenty of air was going
out
  > >the back of the powersupply no cool fresh air was going to the CPU fan.
As
  > >an experiment I taped up the rear and side fan holes and the CPU temps
  > >dropped 15-20C as the air was now entering the case through the front
  > >intakes only and this was in line with the CPU and PS intake.
  > >
  > >Check your system out, maybe you can use a few of the above ideas.
  > >
  > >Dave
  > >
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